Beyoncé’s husband Jay Z accused of raping 13 yo girl with Diddy

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Anonymous wrote:His statement is pretty intense if indeed you innocent. He encourages a criminal complaint be made against himself and invokes his kids. I hope he’s innocent because, while it wouldn’t surprise me, it’s still tough to hear more and more about this disgusting industry.

I actually thought his statement was good, and string, and convincing. Which surprised me. I went from being like “meh another rapist, no kidding” to being like “yeah he is right this sounds like a money grab”

I lean toward him being guilty, but yes, it was a pretty strong statement and gives pause. There has to be more to this story. I can buy the "feeling ashamed and not sure if she consented" angle for a college student. If that happened to my daughter at age 21 I would try to support her decision on whether to report the crime. If my 13 year old called me from a gas station wearing strange clothes and had been raped, no way I'm not taking her to a hospital and involving police no matter what she says. There's more to this story, if true... either the family is incredibly dysfunctional or Jay-Z's people used intimidation tactics on the family.

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Anonymous wrote:How did a 13-year-old girl end up at an awards show after party?

exactly, where were her parents?

Are you also wondering if she was dressed like she was asking for it?

It is more than reasonable for parents to know the whereabouts of their 13 year old CHILD.

There was a viral indie movie back then called “Thirteen” (?) about 13 yo girls sneaking out of the house and doing very adult things.

PP here. Wouldn't have happened in my mom's home!

Well good for you…?


I live in nyc and have 2 daughters, 12 & 15. They are both smart and independent kids, they take the subway and go all over nyc on their own to visit friends and attend their after school activities as do most of their similarly-aged friends. My older daughter even - gasp - goes to parties and concerts on her own (with friends) sometimes now that she’s in hs but she doesn’t drink because she’s a performer and doesn’t like how it makes her feel (she has tried small amounts of alcohol at home under supervision) and she abhors smoking and drugs. I would trust her to be in most different types of spaces because she knows her limits and how to keep herself safe. She also has self defense training and carries an alarm with her.
It’s mostly the kids who are overly sheltered and coddled by their parents, and parents who treat teens like children, who don’t know how to handle themselves and make really dumb choices like snaking out, going to inappropriate parties and binge drinking. Most kids who are given safe boundaries and allowed to learn by experience may have an uncomfortable moment or two but mostly grow up to understand how to handle themselves. Parent your kids but also realize that part of parenting is letting them learn how to grow up.

I am extremely sorry for this child who endured horrible experiences and I’m not at all surprised that JayZ is a child molesting creep.

That's all well and good, until your sophisticated daughter takes just one drink, and it does not have to be alcoholic, that was given to her unsealed. Then she could find herself in the exact same position as this young girl claims: at a cool party, drugged, and woozy with zero ability to protect herself.

Were you born yesterday? This is the reason Diddy is still in jail with no bond. I have no doubt Jay Z and Diddy would have threatened them, just like they have probably been doing for decades to others. Listen to Anna Kane's story. She was 17 when Diddy trafficked her. She finally agreed to put her name on her case.

But how did it get to their attention to start the intimidation tactics... did the family go to the police, or start with a civil lawsuit? It's absolutely plausible which is why I suggested it, but I want to do know what happened. If the police were aware and didn't pursue the case or investigate because the 13 year old victim stopped cooperating, that's also disgusting.

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His lyrics are full of lines about pimping, sharing, using and abusing, and “turning out” women. His own catalog is like a 30 year dossier detailing his desire to traffic young women to his associates.

Turning out a women means coercing her into group sex and sleeping with all of your male associates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that a rapper whose music was filled with misogynistic and sexist content would mistreat girls and women. Same rapper made an album with R Kelly and later toured together.

Jay Z actually made TWO alums with R Kelly, when it was common knowledge Kelly was a predator.

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Anonymous wrote:How did a 13-year-old girl end up at an awards show after party?

That doesn't matter, Karen. It is not illegal to be at a party.

Just like it's not illegal to walk around after dark in skimpy clothing.

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I'm as Liberal as they come, and I personally can't wait for more of this dirt to come out about these celebs.

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Anonymous wrote:His statement is pretty intense if indeed you innocent. He encourages a criminal complaint be made against himself and invokes his kids. I hope he’s innocent because, while it wouldn’t surprise me, it’s still tough to hear more and more about this disgusting industry.

I actually thought his statement was good, and string, and convincing. Which surprised me. I went from being like “meh another rapist, no kidding” to being like “yeah he is right this sounds like a money grab”

I lean toward him being guilty, but yes, it was a pretty strong statement and gives pause. There has to be more to this story. I can buy the "feeling ashamed and not sure if she consented" angle for a college student. If that happened to my daughter at age 21 I would try to support her decision on whether to report the crime. If my 13 year old called me from a gas station wearing strange clothes and had been raped, no way I'm not taking her to a hospital and involving police no matter what she says. There's more to this story, if true... either the family is incredibly dysfunctional or Jay-Z's people used intimidation tactics on the family.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did a 13-year-old girl end up at an awards show after party?

exactly, where were her parents?

Are you also wondering if she was dressed like she was asking for it?

It is more than reasonable for parents to know the whereabouts of their 13 year old CHILD.

There was a viral indie movie back then called “Thirteen” (?) about 13 yo girls sneaking out of the house and doing very adult things.

PP here. Wouldn't have happened in my mom's home!

Well good for you…?


I live in nyc and have 2 daughters, 12 & 15. They are both smart and independent kids, they take the subway and go all over nyc on their own to visit friends and attend their after school activities as do most of their similarly-aged friends. My older daughter even - gasp - goes to parties and concerts on her own (with friends) sometimes now that she’s in hs but she doesn’t drink because she’s a performer and doesn’t like how it makes her feel (she has tried small amounts of alcohol at home under supervision) and she abhors smoking and drugs. I would trust her to be in most different types of spaces because she knows her limits and how to keep herself safe. She also has self defense training and carries an alarm with her.
It’s mostly the kids who are overly sheltered and coddled by their parents, and parents who treat teens like children, who don’t know how to handle themselves and make really dumb choices like snaking out, going to inappropriate parties and binge drinking. Most kids who are given safe boundaries and allowed to learn by experience may have an uncomfortable moment or two but mostly grow up to understand how to handle themselves. Parent your kids but also realize that part of parenting is letting them learn how to grow up.

I am extremely sorry for this child who endured horrible experiences and I’m not at all surprised that JayZ is a child molesting creep.

That's all well and good, until your sophisticated daughter takes just one drink, and it does not have to be alcoholic, that was given to her unsealed. Then she could find herself in the exact same position as this young girl claims: at a cool party, drugged, and woozy with zero ability to protect herself.

Were you born yesterday? This is the reason Diddy is still in jail with no bond. I have no doubt Jay Z and Diddy would have threatened them, just like they have probably been doing for decades to others. Listen to Anna Kane's story. She was 17 when Diddy trafficked her. She finally agreed to put her name on her case.

But how did it get to their attention to start the intimidation tactics... did the family go to the police, or start with a civil lawsuit? It's absolutely plausible which is why I suggested it, but I want to do know what happened. If the police were aware and didn't pursue the case or investigate because the 13 year old victim stopped cooperating, that's also disgusting.

That’s great you’re so curious and want to know but it’s really none of our business. If it goes to court it will end up in court. How did Epstein and Weinstein get away with their crimes for DECADES? I don’t know but making excuses for these men just because you personally haven’t been convinced is awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The unnamed female celebrity should be contacted.

I guess that would happen if this was a criminal case versus a civil suit?

I think it’s safe to assume she has already been contacted by the lawyer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:His statement is pretty intense if indeed you innocent. He encourages a criminal complaint be made against himself and invokes his kids. I hope he’s innocent because, while it wouldn’t surprise me, it’s still tough to hear more and more about this disgusting industry.

I actually thought his statement was good, and string, and convincing. Which surprised me. I went from being like “meh another rapist, no kidding” to being like “yeah he is right this sounds like a money grab”

He has a good publicist.

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Anonymous wrote:How did a 13-year-old girl end up at an awards show after party?

exactly, where were her parents?

Are you also wondering if she was dressed like she was asking for it?

It is more than reasonable for parents to know the whereabouts of their 13 year old CHILD.

There was a viral indie movie back then called “Thirteen” (?) about 13 yo girls sneaking out of the house and doing very adult things.

PP here. Wouldn't have happened in my mom's home!

Well good for you…?


I live in nyc and have 2 daughters, 12 & 15. They are both smart and independent kids, they take the subway and go all over nyc on their own to visit friends and attend their after school activities as do most of their similarly-aged friends. My older daughter even - gasp - goes to parties and concerts on her own (with friends) sometimes now that she’s in hs but she doesn’t drink because she’s a performer and doesn’t like how it makes her feel (she has tried small amounts of alcohol at home under supervision) and she abhors smoking and drugs. I would trust her to be in most different types of spaces because she knows her limits and how to keep herself safe. She also has self defense training and carries an alarm with her.
It’s mostly the kids who are overly sheltered and coddled by their parents, and parents who treat teens like children, who don’t know how to handle themselves and make really dumb choices like snaking out, going to inappropriate parties and binge drinking. Most kids who are given safe boundaries and allowed to learn by experience may have an uncomfortable moment or two but mostly grow up to understand how to handle themselves. Parent your kids but also realize that part of parenting is letting them learn how to grow up.

I am extremely sorry for this child who endured horrible experiences and I’m not at all surprised that JayZ is a child molesting creep.

Well you are … something. You’ve managed to misread the entire situation (the girl was 13, not a high schooler. Big difference!) while victim shaming and congratulating yourself on your own parenting.

+1. Well said. OP, you don't know what you don't know and you are so full of yourself on your own parenting that your daughters would never tell you if something did happen.

I believe in increasing levels of independence but your actions are beyond the pale. That is some 1970s level parenting. That shouldn't make you proud.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:His statement is pretty intense if indeed you innocent. He encourages a criminal complaint be made against himself and invokes his kids. I hope he’s innocent because, while it wouldn’t surprise me, it’s still tough to hear more and more about this disgusting industry.

I actually thought his statement was good, and string, and convincing. Which surprised me. I went from being like “meh another rapist, no kidding” to being like “yeah he is right this sounds like a money grab”

I lean toward him being guilty, but yes, it was a pretty strong statement and gives pause. There has to be more to this story. I can buy the "feeling ashamed and not sure if she consented" angle for a college student. If that happened to my daughter at age 21 I would try to support her decision on whether to report the crime. If my 13 year old called me from a gas station wearing strange clothes and had been raped, no way I'm not taking her to a hospital and involving police no matter what she says. There's more to this story, if true... either the family is incredibly dysfunctional or Jay-Z's people used intimidation tactics on the family.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did a 13-year-old girl end up at an awards show after party?

exactly, where were her parents?

Are you also wondering if she was dressed like she was asking for it?

It is more than reasonable for parents to know the whereabouts of their 13 year old CHILD.

There was a viral indie movie back then called “Thirteen” (?) about 13 yo girls sneaking out of the house and doing very adult things.

PP here. Wouldn't have happened in my mom's home!

Well good for you…?


I live in nyc and have 2 daughters, 12 & 15. They are both smart and independent kids, they take the subway and go all over nyc on their own to visit friends and attend their after school activities as do most of their similarly-aged friends. My older daughter even - gasp - goes to parties and concerts on her own (with friends) sometimes now that she’s in hs but she doesn’t drink because she’s a performer and doesn’t like how it makes her feel (she has tried small amounts of alcohol at home under supervision) and she abhors smoking and drugs. I would trust her to be in most different types of spaces because she knows her limits and how to keep herself safe. She also has self defense training and carries an alarm with her.
It’s mostly the kids who are overly sheltered and coddled by their parents, and parents who treat teens like children, who don’t know how to handle themselves and make really dumb choices like snaking out, going to inappropriate parties and binge drinking. Most kids who are given safe boundaries and allowed to learn by experience may have an uncomfortable moment or two but mostly grow up to understand how to handle themselves. Parent your kids but also realize that part of parenting is letting them learn how to grow up.

I am extremely sorry for this child who endured horrible experiences and I’m not at all surprised that JayZ is a child molesting creep.

That's all well and good, until your sophisticated daughter takes just one drink, and it does not have to be alcoholic, that was given to her unsealed. Then she could find herself in the exact same position as this young girl claims: at a cool party, drugged, and woozy with zero ability to protect herself.

Were you born yesterday? This is the reason Diddy is still in jail with no bond. I have no doubt Jay Z and Diddy would have threatened them, just like they have probably been doing for decades to others. Listen to Anna Kane's story. She was 17 when Diddy trafficked her. She finally agreed to put her name on her case.

But how did it get to their attention to start the intimidation tactics... did the family go to the police, or start with a civil lawsuit? It's absolutely plausible which is why I suggested it, but I want to do know what happened. If the police were aware and didn't pursue the case or investigate because the 13 year old victim stopped cooperating, that's also disgusting.

That’s great you’re so curious and want to know but it’s really none of our business. If it goes to court it will end up in court. How did Epstein and Weinstein get away with their crimes for DECADES? I don’t know but making excuses for these men just because you personally haven’t been convinced is awful.

It’s ALL our business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:His statement is pretty intense if indeed you innocent. He encourages a criminal complaint be made against himself and invokes his kids. I hope he’s innocent because, while it wouldn’t surprise me, it’s still tough to hear more and more about this disgusting industry.

I actually thought his statement was good, and string, and convincing. Which surprised me. I went from being like “meh another rapist, no kidding” to being like “yeah he is right this sounds like a money grab”

I lean toward him being guilty, but yes, it was a pretty strong statement and gives pause. There has to be more to this story. I can buy the "feeling ashamed and not sure if she consented" angle for a college student. If that happened to my daughter at age 21 I would try to support her decision on whether to report the crime. If my 13 year old called me from a gas station wearing strange clothes and had been raped, no way I'm not taking her to a hospital and involving police no matter what she says. There's more to this story, if true... either the family is incredibly dysfunctional or Jay-Z's people used intimidation tactics on the family.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did a 13-year-old girl end up at an awards show after party?

exactly, where were her parents?

Are you also wondering if she was dressed like she was asking for it?

It is more than reasonable for parents to know the whereabouts of their 13 year old CHILD.

There was a viral indie movie back then called “Thirteen” (?) about 13 yo girls sneaking out of the house and doing very adult things.

PP here. Wouldn't have happened in my mom's home!

Well good for you…?


I live in nyc and have 2 daughters, 12 & 15. They are both smart and independent kids, they take the subway and go all over nyc on their own to visit friends and attend their after school activities as do most of their similarly-aged friends. My older daughter even - gasp - goes to parties and concerts on her own (with friends) sometimes now that she’s in hs but she doesn’t drink because she’s a performer and doesn’t like how it makes her feel (she has tried small amounts of alcohol at home under supervision) and she abhors smoking and drugs. I would trust her to be in most different types of spaces because she knows her limits and how to keep herself safe. She also has self defense training and carries an alarm with her.
It’s mostly the kids who are overly sheltered and coddled by their parents, and parents who treat teens like children, who don’t know how to handle themselves and make really dumb choices like snaking out, going to inappropriate parties and binge drinking. Most kids who are given safe boundaries and allowed to learn by experience may have an uncomfortable moment or two but mostly grow up to understand how to handle themselves. Parent your kids but also realize that part of parenting is letting them learn how to grow up.

I am extremely sorry for this child who endured horrible experiences and I’m not at all surprised that JayZ is a child molesting creep.

That's all well and good, until your sophisticated daughter takes just one drink, and it does not have to be alcoholic, that was given to her unsealed. Then she could find herself in the exact same position as this young girl claims: at a cool party, drugged, and woozy with zero ability to protect herself.

Were you born yesterday? This is the reason Diddy is still in jail with no bond. I have no doubt Jay Z and Diddy would have threatened them, just like they have probably been doing for decades to others. Listen to Anna Kane's story. She was 17 when Diddy trafficked her. She finally agreed to put her name on her case.

But how did it get to their attention to start the intimidation tactics... did the family go to the police, or start with a civil lawsuit? It's absolutely plausible which is why I suggested it, but I want to do know what happened. If the police were aware and didn't pursue the case or investigate because the 13 year old victim stopped cooperating, that's also disgusting.

That’s great you’re so curious and want to know but it’s really none of our business. If it goes to court it will end up in court. How did Epstein and Weinstein get away with their crimes for DECADES? I don’t know but making excuses for these men just because you personally haven’t been convinced is awful.

I can see it coming off that way but I'm not making excuses for the perps. It's a separate issue. I want to know if this is another Weinstein situation where the Manhattan DA chose not to prosecute, and then I'd want to know what other complaints law enforcement knew about. This could be the tip of the iceberg.

[Anonymous]

lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:His statement is pretty intense if indeed you innocent. He encourages a criminal complaint be made against himself and invokes his kids. I hope he’s innocent because, while it wouldn’t surprise me, it’s still tough to hear more and more about this disgusting industry.

I actually thought his statement was good, and string, and convincing. Which surprised me. I went from being like “meh another rapist, no kidding” to being like “yeah he is right this sounds like a money grab”

His statement is a desperate and unhinged deflection. Good PR and good lawyers would have never co-signed that nonsense.

[Anonymous]

If only the signs were there...