DDOT wants to charge $8/hr for street parking, require payment 24 hours/day

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Anonymous wrote:People still go to DC? I’m a city girl, but so much of the city has left, it is basically an outer ring suburban city. It’s pretty bland, getting more expensive, and getting less from it. If you’re not already here, why would you come?

What do you mean much of the city has left? The city is still the city and isn't comparable to the suburban satellites like Tysons or Mosaic or Reston or whatever. It's very different.

DC is kind of depressing now. I've lived here a long time and can't remember when things were this bad. The city used to seem to vibrant. Now so many neighborhoods are so quiet and empty and yet far more expensive than it used to be. You'd think DDOT could pause its jihad on cars until the city can get back on its feet.

There are two things hampering DC. Crime is the big one, and cars is the little one. Making it easier to drive/park in DC doesn't help the city with either.

The places in DC that people want to go to, like the Wharf mentioned above, are desirable because they aren't overrun with cars and parking. It has more "stuff" because it has less parking. Its the stuff that people want to have access to. DC needs to make it easier to get around without a car, which its doing in fits and starts.

If people actually wanted easy parking and high speed roads then Friendship Heights would not be in the state its currently in.

Nonsense. The only mode of transportation that is becoming more popular in DC is driving. The number of Washingtonians who bike, who ride the subway, who take the bus are all in the toilet.

Let me guess, you know this because of commuting surveys? Newsflash, people going to the Anthem or 9:30 club are not commuters outside of venue staff. The same way that people going to a sports or theater event are not commuters.

Also, if you're going to use the term "Washingtonians" you should know that applies to people who live in the District only. Washingtonians also are largely not car commuters per your own commuting survey.

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Anonymous wrote:People still go to DC? I’m a city girl, but so much of the city has left, it is basically an outer ring suburban city. It’s pretty bland, getting more expensive, and getting less from it. If you’re not already here, why would you come?

What do you mean much of the city has left? The city is still the city and isn't comparable to the suburban satellites like Tysons or Mosaic or Reston or whatever. It's very different.

DC is kind of depressing now. I've lived here a long time and can't remember when things were this bad. The city used to seem to vibrant. Now so many neighborhoods are so quiet and empty and yet far more expensive than it used to be. You'd think DDOT could pause its jihad on cars until the city can get back on its feet.

There are two things hampering DC. Crime is the big one, and cars is the little one. Making it easier to drive/park in DC doesn't help the city with either.

The places in DC that people want to go to, like the Wharf mentioned above, are desirable because they aren't overrun with cars and parking. It has more "stuff" because it has less parking. Its the stuff that people want to have access to. DC needs to make it easier to get around without a car, which its doing in fits and starts.

If people actually wanted easy parking and high speed roads then Friendship Heights would not be in the state its currently in.

Utter nonsense. Transportation time, along with crime, is the biggest negative. That means traffic. What we have seen over the past two years is congestion noticeably increasing even though car volume has not. The metro does not have good cross town service except for downtown.

The Wharf is not desirable because of cars or anything else you are deluding yourself into thinking. It is simply new and frankly it is nothing special. It's almost a cookie cutter neo-suburban development like Mosaic or Pike and Rose.

Increasing congestion by making it difficult and time consuming to go cross town doesn't increase access for anyone it decreases it. There will be negative consequences to these actions and we are already beginning to see them. This is a throwback to the pre-Anthony Williams days of high taxes, high crime and a hostile DC Government more concerned with punishing than serving the people.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why people feel entitled to store their car for free on government property (aka the street). I think it would be easier to just charge a lot for an overnight parking sticker.

I don't understand why cyclists think it should be free to use the roads they don't pay for.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why people feel entitled to store their car for free on government property (aka the street). I think it would be easier to just charge a lot for an overnight parking sticker.

I don't understand why cyclists think it should be free to use the roads they don't pay for.

A DC resident riding on the road has paid more into the maintenance of that road than a VA/MD resident in an electric vehicle. Depending on their personal situations, the cyclist may also have paid more than drivers of gas vehicles. That's largely because gas tax doesn't come close to covering the cost of roads.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why people feel entitled to store their car for free on government property (aka the street). I think it would be easier to just charge a lot for an overnight parking sticker.

I don't understand why cyclists think it should be free to use the roads they don't pay for.

Are you talking about children? Children generally bicycle on sidewalks - which, granted, also need to be paid for. Everyone else pays taxes that pay for roads.

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Anonymous wrote:People still go to DC? I’m a city girl, but so much of the city has left, it is basically an outer ring suburban city. It’s pretty bland, getting more expensive, and getting less from it. If you’re not already here, why would you come?

What do you mean much of the city has left? The city is still the city and isn't comparable to the suburban satellites like Tysons or Mosaic or Reston or whatever. It's very different.

DC is kind of depressing now. I've lived here a long time and can't remember when things were this bad. The city used to seem to vibrant. Now so many neighborhoods are so quiet and empty and yet far more expensive than it used to be. You'd think DDOT could pause its jihad on cars until the city can get back on its feet.

There are two things hampering DC. Crime is the big one, and cars is the little one. Making it easier to drive/park in DC doesn't help the city with either.

The places in DC that people want to go to, like the Wharf mentioned above, are desirable because they aren't overrun with cars and parking. It has more "stuff" because it has less parking. Its the stuff that people want to have access to. DC needs to make it easier to get around without a car, which its doing in fits and starts.

If people actually wanted easy parking and high speed roads then Friendship Heights would not be in the state its currently in.

Utter nonsense. Transportation time, along with crime, is the biggest negative. That means traffic. What we have seen over the past two years is congestion noticeably increasing even though car volume has not. The metro does not have good cross town service except for downtown.

The Wharf is not desirable because of cars or anything else you are deluding yourself into thinking. It is simply new and frankly it is nothing special. It's almost a cookie cutter neo-suburban development like Mosaic or Pike and Rose.

Increasing congestion by making it difficult and time consuming to go cross town doesn't increase access for anyone it decreases it. There will be negative consequences to these actions and we are already beginning to see them. This is a throwback to the pre-Anthony Williams days of high taxes, high crime and a hostile DC Government more concerned with punishing than serving the people.

If only DC had non-car transportation options.

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Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.

The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.

https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking

Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.

It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.

People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.

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Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.

The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.

https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking

Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.

It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.

People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.

Nowadays they have these services where you can pay somebody else to drive you somewhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.

The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.

https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking

Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.

It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.

People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.

There are different user bases here. There are people that want to park for cheap, and there are people who want to have parking available. The current model favors the first group, and this proposal favors the second. The second also is probably going to generate more revenue for businesses and the city.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.

The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.

https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking

Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.

It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.

People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.

Nowadays they have these services where you can pay somebody else to drive you somewhere.

Most people living in MD or VA are not going to bother visiting U street if they have to spend $50+ to take an Uber then and another $50+ to take an Uber back home. That makes absolutely zero sense when I can eat at a nice restaurant/bar for $100 (or less) in Fairfax or MOCO and park for free.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.

The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.

https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking

Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.

It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.

People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.

There are different user bases here. There are people that want to park for cheap, and there are people who want to have parking available. The current model favors the first group, and this proposal favors the second. The second also is probably going to generate more revenue for businesses and the city.

This is going to kill the nightlife economy in U Street. So I have to imagine that’s probably the goal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.

The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.

https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking

Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.

It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.

People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.

Nowadays they have these services where you can pay somebody else to drive you somewhere.

Most people living in MD or VA are not going to bother visiting U street if they have to spend $50+ to take an Uber then and another $50+ to take an Uber back home. That makes absolutely zero sense when I can eat at a nice restaurant/bar for $100 (or less) in Fairfax or MOCO and park for free.

The people posting about Uber and transit don’t seem to understand how reliant these businesses are on revenue from people outside the neighborhood and particularly outside DC.

I’m sure that DC government does though. So I imagine like the whole housing voucher program that there is an ulterior motive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.

The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.

https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking

Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.

It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.

People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.

There will never be enough parking for you bridge and tunnel people, so thanks for staying away. We literally don't need you. Stay in Virginia, please.

[Anonymous]

People in this thread: not understanding that most of the traffic in U st is people looking for parking and this will alleviate that. Also in this thread: people who don't want to pay market rate for things and want to be subsidized by others. My tip: stay in the burbs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.

The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.

https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking

Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.

It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.

People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.

There are different user bases here. There are people that want to park for cheap, and there are people who want to have parking available. The current model favors the first group, and this proposal favors the second. The second also is probably going to generate more revenue for businesses and the city.

This is going to kill the nightlife economy in U Street. So I have to imagine that’s probably the goal.

99% of "nightlife" in U st are people taking metro/uber. If you are going out drunking why would you drive and park? Makes no sense, unless you live in some generic suburb.