Andover matriculation

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Virginia Tech and UMD are more regional than people here think. It's like saying, "Why no Bing?" on that list.

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As a NYer with kids in boarding school (but not Andover), I can explain part of the UVA, I think.

- More kids from VA than, say, MI. Just because you're going to school in MA or NH or whatever, doesn't mean you still dont have a state school.

- We have either a Jefferson or Walentas winner most years. And from our school, you don't get the Jefferson nomination unless you're going to accept it (over ivy etc). So they matriculate.

Many kids in boarding schools are hooked. Either by legacy, sports, FGLI (better FA at our school than many colleges) plus they have the added proof that they can live independently and do the work. It makes saying Yes to these kids pretty easy from a college pov.

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Anonymous wrote:As a NYer with kids in boarding school (but not Andover), I can explain part of the UVA, I think.

- More kids from VA than, say, MI. Just because you're going to school in MA or NH or whatever, doesn't mean you still dont have a state school.

- We have either a Jefferson or Walentas winner most years. And from our school, you don't get the Jefferson nomination unless you're going to accept it (over ivy etc). So they matriculate.

Many kids in boarding schools are hooked. Either by legacy, sports, FGLI (better FA at our school than many colleges) plus they have the added proof that they can live independently and do the work. It makes saying Yes to these kids pretty easy from a college pov.

I think this is right. After MA, the most popular places for kids to be from were CA, NY/NJ/CT and the DC area.

If kids are going to go to college anywhere close to where they’re from, UVA or Georgetown are good options for DC area kids.

The tri state area kids are usually looking at Columbia or Princeton.

The CA kids from Andover are usually competitive for Stanford as opposed to Berkeley or UCLA.

I also think there’s just more of a prestige perception when it comes to UVA vs some of the other public schools. Not saying it’s fair (I think Michigan is just as good), but I do think it’s there.

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia Tech and UMD are more regional than people here think. It's like saying, "Why no Bing?" on that list.

No one outside the DC area thinks about UMD or VA Tech.

It’s basically Georgetown, UVA, and maybe William and Mary for a kid looking for a small school.

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia Tech and UMD are more regional than people here think. It's like saying, "Why no Bing?" on that list.

No one outside the DC area thinks about UMD or VA Tech.

It’s basically Georgetown, UVA, and maybe William and Mary for a kid looking for a small school.

I agree. The University of Maryland's undergraduate population is drawn 70% from Maryland, and almost 20% from NY, Penn, VA and New Jersey.

When you have almost 90% of your students from such a tightly configured region, you are a regional school. Same thing with Virginia Tech. For whatever reasons they aren't in the kids want to go to it from all over the United States tier. Schools like UVA are in that tier.

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Anonymous wrote:As a NYer with kids in boarding school (but not Andover), I can explain part of the UVA, I think.

- More kids from VA than, say, MI. Just because you're going to school in MA or NH or whatever, doesn't mean you still dont have a state school.

- We have either a Jefferson or Walentas winner most years. And from our school, you don't get the Jefferson nomination unless you're going to accept it (over ivy etc). So they matriculate.

Many kids in boarding schools are hooked. Either by legacy, sports, FGLI (better FA at our school than many colleges) plus they have the added proof that they can live independently and do the work. It makes saying Yes to these kids pretty easy from a college pov.

I think this is right. After MA, the most popular places for kids to be from were CA, NY/NJ/CT and the DC area.

If kids are going to go to college anywhere close to where they’re from, UVA or Georgetown are good options for DC area kids.

The tri state area kids are usually looking at Columbia or Princeton.

The CA kids from Andover are usually competitive for Stanford as opposed to Berkeley or UCLA.

I also think there’s just more of a prestige perception when it comes to UVA vs some of the other public schools. Not saying it’s fair (I think Michigan is just as good), but I do think it’s there.

Bingo. Was that so hard? I know haters are going to hate, but this is the truth. There is no other reason why nearly 30 graduates of Andover have chosen to attend UVA in the last three years.

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia Tech and UMD are more regional than people here think. It's like saying, "Why no Bing?" on that list.

Agree. Very regional.

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Anonymous wrote:As a NYer with kids in boarding school (but not Andover), I can explain part of the UVA, I think.

- More kids from VA than, say, MI. Just because you're going to school in MA or NH or whatever, doesn't mean you still dont have a state school.

- We have either a Jefferson or Walentas winner most years. And from our school, you don't get the Jefferson nomination unless you're going to accept it (over ivy etc). So they matriculate.

Many kids in boarding schools are hooked. Either by legacy, sports, FGLI (better FA at our school than many colleges) plus they have the added proof that they can live independently and do the work. It makes saying Yes to these kids pretty easy from a college pov.

I think this is right. After MA, the most popular places for kids to be from were CA, NY/NJ/CT and the DC area.

If kids are going to go to college anywhere close to where they’re from, UVA or Georgetown are good options for DC area kids.

The tri state area kids are usually looking at Columbia or Princeton.

The CA kids from Andover are usually competitive for Stanford as opposed to Berkeley or UCLA.

I also think there’s just more of a prestige perception when it comes to UVA vs some of the other public schools. Not saying it’s fair (I think Michigan is just as good), but I do think it’s there.

Bingo. Was that so hard? I know haters are going to hate, but this is the truth. There is no other reason why nearly 30 graduates of Andover have chosen to attend UVA in the last three years.

Exactlly. At least through the lens of Andover type students, and their guidance counselors (don't forget how important they are in the process!), UVA has more prestige than other publics. It also doesn't hurt that UVA is smaller, too.

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Anonymous wrote:As a NYer with kids in boarding school (but not Andover), I can explain part of the UVA, I think.

- More kids from VA than, say, MI. Just because you're going to school in MA or NH or whatever, doesn't mean you still dont have a state school.

- We have either a Jefferson or Walentas winner most years. And from our school, you don't get the Jefferson nomination unless you're going to accept it (over ivy etc). So they matriculate.

Many kids in boarding schools are hooked. Either by legacy, sports, FGLI (better FA at our school than many colleges) plus they have the added proof that they can live independently and do the work. It makes saying Yes to these kids pretty easy from a college pov.

I think this is right. After MA, the most popular places for kids to be from were CA, NY/NJ/CT and the DC area.

If kids are going to go to college anywhere close to where they’re from, UVA or Georgetown are good options for DC area kids.

The tri state area kids are usually looking at Columbia or Princeton.

The CA kids from Andover are usually competitive for Stanford as opposed to Berkeley or UCLA.

I also think there’s just more of a prestige perception when it comes to UVA vs some of the other public schools. Not saying it’s fair (I think Michigan is just as good), but I do think it’s there.

Bingo. Was that so hard? I know haters are going to hate, but this is the truth. There is no other reason why nearly 30 graduates of Andover have chosen to attend UVA in the last three years.

Exactlly. At least through the lens of Andover type students, and their guidance counselors (don't forget how important they are in the process!), UVA has more prestige than other publics. It also doesn't hurt that UVA is smaller, too.

I think it is just that the type of OOS Andover student who can get into Berkeley, can get into even better colleges. The UVA type is likely choosing between that and another mid like UNC.

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Anonymous wrote:As a NYer with kids in boarding school (but not Andover), I can explain part of the UVA, I think.

- More kids from VA than, say, MI. Just because you're going to school in MA or NH or whatever, doesn't mean you still dont have a state school.

- We have either a Jefferson or Walentas winner most years. And from our school, you don't get the Jefferson nomination unless you're going to accept it (over ivy etc). So they matriculate.

Many kids in boarding schools are hooked. Either by legacy, sports, FGLI (better FA at our school than many colleges) plus they have the added proof that they can live independently and do the work. It makes saying Yes to these kids pretty easy from a college pov.

I think this is right. After MA, the most popular places for kids to be from were CA, NY/NJ/CT and the DC area.

If kids are going to go to college anywhere close to where they’re from, UVA or Georgetown are good options for DC area kids.

The tri state area kids are usually looking at Columbia or Princeton.

The CA kids from Andover are usually competitive for Stanford as opposed to Berkeley or UCLA.

I also think there’s just more of a prestige perception when it comes to UVA vs some of the other public schools. Not saying it’s fair (I think Michigan is just as good), but I do think it’s there.

Bingo. Was that so hard? I know haters are going to hate, but this is the truth. There is no other reason why nearly 30 graduates of Andover have chosen to attend UVA in the last three years.

Exactlly. At least through the lens of Andover type students, and their guidance counselors (don't forget how important they are in the process!), UVA has more prestige than other publics. It also doesn't hurt that UVA is smaller, too.

I think it is just that the type of OOS Andover student who can get into Berkeley, can get into even better colleges. The UVA type is likely choosing between that and another mid like UNC.

And you’d think wrong. UNC out of state is an even harder admit than UVA.

It just kills UVA haters that UVA has an elite reputation even among top private schools. It even does admissions tours with them:

https://apps.admissions.yale.edu/share/view?id=53dfa1a0-9c09-43a9-81e1-f8d08252e6da

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Anonymous wrote:As a NYer with kids in boarding school (but not Andover), I can explain part of the UVA, I think.

- More kids from VA than, say, MI. Just because you're going to school in MA or NH or whatever, doesn't mean you still dont have a state school.

- We have either a Jefferson or Walentas winner most years. And from our school, you don't get the Jefferson nomination unless you're going to accept it (over ivy etc). So they matriculate.

Many kids in boarding schools are hooked. Either by legacy, sports, FGLI (better FA at our school than many colleges) plus they have the added proof that they can live independently and do the work. It makes saying Yes to these kids pretty easy from a college pov.

I think this is right. After MA, the most popular places for kids to be from were CA, NY/NJ/CT and the DC area.

If kids are going to go to college anywhere close to where they’re from, UVA or Georgetown are good options for DC area kids.

The tri state area kids are usually looking at Columbia or Princeton.

The CA kids from Andover are usually competitive for Stanford as opposed to Berkeley or UCLA.

I also think there’s just more of a prestige perception when it comes to UVA vs some of the other public schools. Not saying it’s fair (I think Michigan is just as good), but I do think it’s there.

Bingo. Was that so hard? I know haters are going to hate, but this is the truth. There is no other reason why nearly 30 graduates of Andover have chosen to attend UVA in the last three years.

Exactlly. At least through the lens of Andover type students, and their guidance counselors (don't forget how important they are in the process!), UVA has more prestige than other publics. It also doesn't hurt that UVA is smaller, too.

I think it is just that the type of OOS Andover student who can get into Berkeley, can get into even better colleges. The UVA type is likely choosing between that and another mid like UNC.

And you’d think wrong. UNC out of state is an even harder admit than UVA.

It just kills UVA haters that UVA has an elite reputation even among top private schools. It even does admissions tours with them:

https://apps.admissions.yale.edu/share/view?id=53dfa1a0-9c09-43a9-81e1-f8d08252e6da

You think of yourself very highly that you think I care much at all about UVA. It's some random state school a couple hundred miles away from me with no name recognition here. You do seem strangely obsessive though, showing a random counseling meeting between colleges.

No one said UVA is a bad school. I didn't even hate on it. But, yes, nationally, Berkeley has a much better reputation than UVA. Follow the application numbers, frankly.

[Anonymous]

Have not read much of this thread, but am surprised that Andover college counseling misspelled Binghamton university (SUNY) as "Binghampton University".

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Anonymous wrote:As a NYer with kids in boarding school (but not Andover), I can explain part of the UVA, I think.

- More kids from VA than, say, MI. Just because you're going to school in MA or NH or whatever, doesn't mean you still dont have a state school.

- We have either a Jefferson or Walentas winner most years. And from our school, you don't get the Jefferson nomination unless you're going to accept it (over ivy etc). So they matriculate.

Many kids in boarding schools are hooked. Either by legacy, sports, FGLI (better FA at our school than many colleges) plus they have the added proof that they can live independently and do the work. It makes saying Yes to these kids pretty easy from a college pov.

I wish our private would do this. Every year they give the nomination to a kid who either EDs or SCEAs an Ivy with no intention of going to UVA. And it's always a kid with no financial need. And so nobody actually takes (or even wins) the Jefferson. It's a giant waste.

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Anonymous wrote:As a NYer with kids in boarding school (but not Andover), I can explain part of the UVA, I think.

- More kids from VA than, say, MI. Just because you're going to school in MA or NH or whatever, doesn't mean you still dont have a state school.

- We have either a Jefferson or Walentas winner most years. And from our school, you don't get the Jefferson nomination unless you're going to accept it (over ivy etc). So they matriculate.

Many kids in boarding schools are hooked. Either by legacy, sports, FGLI (better FA at our school than many colleges) plus they have the added proof that they can live independently and do the work. It makes saying Yes to these kids pretty easy from a college pov.

I think this is right. After MA, the most popular places for kids to be from were CA, NY/NJ/CT and the DC area.

If kids are going to go to college anywhere close to where they’re from, UVA or Georgetown are good options for DC area kids.

The tri state area kids are usually looking at Columbia or Princeton.

The CA kids from Andover are usually competitive for Stanford as opposed to Berkeley or UCLA.

I also think there’s just more of a prestige perception when it comes to UVA vs some of the other public schools. Not saying it’s fair (I think Michigan is just as good), but I do think it’s there.

Bingo. Was that so hard? I know haters are going to hate, but this is the truth. There is no other reason why nearly 30 graduates of Andover have chosen to attend UVA in the last three years.

Exactlly. At least through the lens of Andover type students, and their guidance counselors (don't forget how important they are in the process!), UVA has more prestige than other publics. It also doesn't hurt that UVA is smaller, too.

I think it is just that the type of OOS Andover student who can get into Berkeley, can get into even better colleges. The UVA type is likely choosing between that and another mid like UNC.

And you’d think wrong. UNC out of state is an even harder admit than UVA.

It just kills UVA haters that UVA has an elite reputation even among top private schools. It even does admissions tours with them:

https://apps.admissions.yale.edu/share/view?id=53dfa1a0-9c09-43a9-81e1-f8d08252e6da

You think of yourself very highly that you think I care much at all about UVA. It's some random state school a couple hundred miles away from me with no name recognition here. You do seem strangely obsessive though, showing a random counseling meeting between colleges.

No one said UVA is a bad school. I didn't even hate on it. But, yes, nationally, Berkeley has a much better reputation than UVA. Follow the application numbers, frankly.

Except we’re not talking about Berkeley, are we? We’re talking about UVA on a DMV-centered website, and you are an interloper. And the fact that nearly 30 graduates of one of the most elite private school in the country - which also is a “couple hundred miles away” - have chosen to attend UVA over the many, many other choices that they surely would have had puts to bed your silly thinking that the school has “no name recognition outside of our area. Clearly it does.

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Anonymous wrote:As a NYer with kids in boarding school (but not Andover), I can explain part of the UVA, I think.

- More kids from VA than, say, MI. Just because you're going to school in MA or NH or whatever, doesn't mean you still dont have a state school.

- We have either a Jefferson or Walentas winner most years. And from our school, you don't get the Jefferson nomination unless you're going to accept it (over ivy etc). So they matriculate.

Many kids in boarding schools are hooked. Either by legacy, sports, FGLI (better FA at our school than many colleges) plus they have the added proof that they can live independently and do the work. It makes saying Yes to these kids pretty easy from a college pov.

I think this is right. After MA, the most popular places for kids to be from were CA, NY/NJ/CT and the DC area.

If kids are going to go to college anywhere close to where they’re from, UVA or Georgetown are good options for DC area kids.

The tri state area kids are usually looking at Columbia or Princeton.

The CA kids from Andover are usually competitive for Stanford as opposed to Berkeley or UCLA.

I also think there’s just more of a prestige perception when it comes to UVA vs some of the other public schools. Not saying it’s fair (I think Michigan is just as good), but I do think it’s there.

Bingo. Was that so hard? I know haters are going to hate, but this is the truth. There is no other reason why nearly 30 graduates of Andover have chosen to attend UVA in the last three years.

Exactlly. At least through the lens of Andover type students, and their guidance counselors (don't forget how important they are in the process!), UVA has more prestige than other publics. It also doesn't hurt that UVA is smaller, too.

I think it is just that the type of OOS Andover student who can get into Berkeley, can get into even better colleges. The UVA type is likely choosing between that and another mid like UNC.

And you’d think wrong. UNC out of state is an even harder admit than UVA.

It just kills UVA haters that UVA has an elite reputation even among top private schools. It even does admissions tours with them:

https://apps.admissions.yale.edu/share/view?id=53dfa1a0-9c09-43a9-81e1-f8d08252e6da

You think of yourself very highly that you think I care much at all about UVA. It's some random state school a couple hundred miles away from me with no name recognition here. You do seem strangely obsessive though, showing a random counseling meeting between colleges.

No one said UVA is a bad school. I didn't even hate on it. But, yes, nationally, Berkeley has a much better reputation than UVA. Follow the application numbers, frankly.

Except we’re not talking about Berkeley, are we? We’re talking about UVA on a DMV-centered website, and you are an interloper. And the fact that nearly 30 graduates of one of the most elite private school in the country - which also is a “couple hundred miles away” - have chosen to attend UVA over the many, many other choices that they surely would have had puts to bed your silly thinking that the school has “no name recognition outside of our area. Clearly it does.

Original comment: The CA kids from Andover are usually competitive for Stanford as opposed to Berkeley or UCLA.
One of the many many other choices is Berkeley, a well-known public school.
You seriously can't start acting oblivious now.