Andover matriculation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why it rubs people wrong, but the fact is UVA is more prestigious in the eyes of Andover graduates than a UNC or Michigan or UCLA.

You can debate why they might be misguided, but it is a fact that the graduates do think that.

Sure. Of maybe there is just a well-worn pathway to UVA. My twins attend two different privates. At one, UVA is doable with a 3.8. At the other you really need a 3.9. Michigan is the reverse. The second school will take kids down to about a 3.7 while Michigan routinely requires a 3.9 from the first high school.

Who knows why this is the case. Personal relationships between the local admissions rep and the high school(s) college counseling office? Experience with past grads (both positive and negative) from these high schools?

In the world of private high schools relationships with colleges is a BIG factor that determines where kids apply.

I know several Deerfield grads at UVA, none of whom are in state. I was told by one of their parents that there is a “relationship” between UVA and Deerfield and that it’s basically a sure bet for kids who apply. My sense from talking to two of the kids, both HYP legacies, UVA is considered a great school, fun, and warm, and therefore more appealing than trying to use their legacy card.

Agree that this seems to be an accurate observation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schools with 3 or more matriculations:

University of Chicago 21
Harvard University 12
Yale University 12
Stanford University 11
Boston University 10
Brown University 10
Northeastern University 10
Columbia University 8
Georgetown University 8
New York University 8
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 7
Northwestern University 7
University of Pennsylvania 7
University of Virginia 7
Cornell University 6
University of Massachusetts, Amherst 6
Boston College 5
Carnegie Mellon University 5
Villanova University 5
Williams College 5
Emory University 4
Tufts University 4
Tulane University 4
The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 4
University of St. Andrews 4
Wellesley College 4
Wesleyan University 4
Amherst College 3
Babson College 3
Bates College 3
Bowdoin College 3
Colby College 3
Colgate University 3
College of the Holy Cross 3
Colorado College 3
Dartmouth College 3
McGill University 3
Middlebury College 3
Princeton University 3
Rutgers University 3
Skidmore College 3
Southern Methodist University 3
The University of Texas at Austin 3
United States Naval Academy 3
University of California, San Diego 3
University of Michigan 3
University of Southern California 3
University of Wisconsin, Madison 3
Vanderbilt University 3
Washington University, St. Louis 3

What does a higher number of Martriculates say about the school, popularity? Or easy admissions? UChicago is suspect to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why discussion of a private MA HS on a DMV college forum?

Because most of us do not live in a locked closet in our parents' basement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why it rubs people wrong, but the fact is UVA is more prestigious in the eyes of Andover graduates than a UNC or Michigan or UCLA.

You can debate why they might be misguided, but it is a fact that the graduates do think that.

Agree, UVA is the private school of public schools, the only one I would send my child to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools with 3 or more matriculations:

University of Chicago 21
Harvard University 12
Yale University 12
Stanford University 11
Boston University 10
Brown University 10
Northeastern University 10
Columbia University 8
Georgetown University 8
New York University 8
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 7
Northwestern University 7
University of Pennsylvania 7
University of Virginia 7
Cornell University 6
University of Massachusetts, Amherst 6
Boston College 5
Carnegie Mellon University 5
Villanova University 5
Williams College 5
Emory University 4
Tufts University 4
Tulane University 4
The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 4
University of St. Andrews 4
Wellesley College 4
Wesleyan University 4
Amherst College 3
Babson College 3
Bates College 3
Bowdoin College 3
Colby College 3
Colgate University 3
College of the Holy Cross 3
Colorado College 3
Dartmouth College 3
McGill University 3
Middlebury College 3
Princeton University 3
Rutgers University 3
Skidmore College 3
Southern Methodist University 3
The University of Texas at Austin 3
United States Naval Academy 3
University of California, San Diego 3
University of Michigan 3
University of Southern California 3
University of Wisconsin, Madison 3
Vanderbilt University 3
Washington University, St. Louis 3

What does a higher number of Martriculates say about the school, popularity? Or easy admissions? UChicago is suspect to me.

Someone posted that the average SAT at Andover is something like 1450. Since they have so many high achieving students on scholarship (not wealthy) it is easy for the top schools to select students. It's not like Andover has only been around for a few years. Admissions officers know the quality of the curriculum and how Andover students perform. So that and a combination of very wealthy/legacy/donor/ high achievers provides a perfect recipe to accept so many of its graduates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools with 3 or more matriculations:

University of Chicago 21
Harvard University 12
Yale University 12
Stanford University 11
Boston University 10
Brown University 10
Northeastern University 10
Columbia University 8
Georgetown University 8
New York University 8
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 7
Northwestern University 7
University of Pennsylvania 7
University of Virginia 7
Cornell University 6
University of Massachusetts, Amherst 6
Boston College 5
Carnegie Mellon University 5
Villanova University 5
Williams College 5
Emory University 4
Tufts University 4
Tulane University 4
The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 4
University of St. Andrews 4
Wellesley College 4
Wesleyan University 4
Amherst College 3
Babson College 3
Bates College 3
Bowdoin College 3
Colby College 3
Colgate University 3
College of the Holy Cross 3
Colorado College 3
Dartmouth College 3
McGill University 3
Middlebury College 3
Princeton University 3
Rutgers University 3
Skidmore College 3
Southern Methodist University 3
The University of Texas at Austin 3
United States Naval Academy 3
University of California, San Diego 3
University of Michigan 3
University of Southern California 3
University of Wisconsin, Madison 3
Vanderbilt University 3
Washington University, St. Louis 3

What does a higher number of Martriculates say about the school, popularity? Or easy admissions? UChicago is suspect to me.

UChicago loves students who are rigorous academically. Andover graduates are those students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why it rubs people wrong, but the fact is UVA is more prestigious in the eyes of Andover graduates than a UNC or Michigan or UCLA.

You can debate why they might be misguided, but it is a fact that the graduates do think that.

Agree, UVA is the private school of public schools, the only one I would send my child to.

+1

And this makes the massive Big 10 schools so jellie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools with 3 or more matriculations:

University of Chicago 21
Harvard University 12
Yale University 12
Stanford University 11
Boston University 10
Brown University 10
Northeastern University 10
Columbia University 8
Georgetown University 8
New York University 8
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 7
Northwestern University 7
University of Pennsylvania 7
University of Virginia 7
Cornell University 6
University of Massachusetts, Amherst 6
Boston College 5
Carnegie Mellon University 5
Villanova University 5
Williams College 5
Emory University 4
Tufts University 4
Tulane University 4
The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 4
University of St. Andrews 4
Wellesley College 4
Wesleyan University 4
Amherst College 3
Babson College 3
Bates College 3
Bowdoin College 3
Colby College 3
Colgate University 3
College of the Holy Cross 3
Colorado College 3
Dartmouth College 3
McGill University 3
Middlebury College 3
Princeton University 3
Rutgers University 3
Skidmore College 3
Southern Methodist University 3
The University of Texas at Austin 3
United States Naval Academy 3
University of California, San Diego 3
University of Michigan 3
University of Southern California 3
University of Wisconsin, Madison 3
Vanderbilt University 3
Washington University, St. Louis 3

What does a higher number of Martriculates say about the school, popularity? Or easy admissions? UChicago is suspect to me.

Someone posted that the average SAT at Andover is something like 1450. Since they have so many high achieving students on scholarship (not wealthy) it is easy for the top schools to select students. It's not like Andover has only been around for a few years. Admissions officers know the quality of the curriculum and how Andover students perform. So that and a combination of very wealthy/legacy/donor/ high achievers provides a perfect recipe to accept so many of its graduates.

That's lower than expected. There's quite a few public magnet high school with similar SATS, and expected Andover to be in the 1500s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why it rubs people wrong, but the fact is UVA is more prestigious in the eyes of Andover graduates than a UNC or Michigan or UCLA.

You can debate why they might be misguided, but it is a fact that the graduates do think that.

Agree, UVA is the private school of public schools, the only one I would send my child to.

TJ kids with average SAT scores above ivy medians go to VA public schools at every tier every year. Sidwell kids go to UMD, one even went to JMU. Is American that much better than UMD? Does having UVA at Wise contribute so much to UVA's reputation that it's head and shoulders above every other? What makes one place to which 3.4GPA community college students get guaranteed admission from another?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why it rubs people wrong, but the fact is UVA is more prestigious in the eyes of Andover graduates than a UNC or Michigan or UCLA.

You can debate why they might be misguided, but it is a fact that the graduates do think that.

Agree, UVA is the private school of public schools, the only one I would send my child to.

TJ kids with average SAT scores above ivy medians go to VA public schools at every tier every year. Sidwell kids go to UMD, one even went to JMU. Is American that much better than UMD? Does having UVA at Wise contribute so much to UVA's reputation that it's head and shoulders above every other? What makes one place to which 3.4GPA community college students get guaranteed admission from another?

*different from another

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools with 3 or more matriculations:

University of Chicago 21
Harvard University 12
Yale University 12
Stanford University 11
Boston University 10
Brown University 10
Northeastern University 10
Columbia University 8
Georgetown University 8
New York University 8
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 7
Northwestern University 7
University of Pennsylvania 7
University of Virginia 7
Cornell University 6
University of Massachusetts, Amherst 6
Boston College 5
Carnegie Mellon University 5
Villanova University 5
Williams College 5
Emory University 4
Tufts University 4
Tulane University 4
The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 4
University of St. Andrews 4
Wellesley College 4
Wesleyan University 4
Amherst College 3
Babson College 3
Bates College 3
Bowdoin College 3
Colby College 3
Colgate University 3
College of the Holy Cross 3
Colorado College 3
Dartmouth College 3
McGill University 3
Middlebury College 3
Princeton University 3
Rutgers University 3
Skidmore College 3
Southern Methodist University 3
The University of Texas at Austin 3
United States Naval Academy 3
University of California, San Diego 3
University of Michigan 3
University of Southern California 3
University of Wisconsin, Madison 3
Vanderbilt University 3
Washington University, St. Louis 3

What does a higher number of Martriculates say about the school, popularity? Or easy admissions? UChicago is suspect to me.

Someone posted that the average SAT at Andover is something like 1450. Since they have so many high achieving students on scholarship (not wealthy) it is easy for the top schools to select students. It's not like Andover has only been around for a few years. Admissions officers know the quality of the curriculum and how Andover students perform. So that and a combination of very wealthy/legacy/donor/ high achievers provides a perfect recipe to accept so many of its graduates.

That's lower than expected. There's quite a few public magnet high school with similar SATS, and expected Andover to be in the 1500s.

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Stuyvesant at 1460. Bronx 1460. TJ 1510 but will be significantly lower going forward due to admission changes. Last data had Andover at 1480

[Anonymous]

I doubt there is another school be it independent, public, magnet, charter, religious or whatever that has better placement thsn Andover. If it exists, I have not seen it.

[Anonymous]

U Chicago likes Andover because the students are well prepared for the pace and difficulty of classes at U Chicago. There are similar pipelines at other top private high schools in NYC. The students who are not prepared will find it is very easy to fail or get Ds and Cs at U Chicago, where the mean grade is a B-, not an A-/A like Harvard (where I went to school).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:U Chicago likes Andover because the students are well prepared for the pace and difficulty of classes at U Chicago. There are similar pipelines at other top private high schools in NYC. The students who are not prepared will find it is very easy to fail or get Ds and Cs at U Chicago, where the mean grade is a B-, not an A-/A like Harvard (where I went to school).

I think that it is well known in academia that an A at UChicago really means an A.

[Anonymous]

I know that many of the students are on scholarship and aren't wealthy (or at least obscenely wealthy) but it is disheartening to see so many good school represented versus our boondock public school where we are lucky to get one Ivy admit every ten years.