Sick of spending every holiday with the in-laws

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Anonymous wrote:Stay home if you want to. If husband wants to take the kids, he can. People can be upset about it if they want. I'm not seeing the problem.


Presumably the problem is that OP would like to spend the holidays with her husband and kids. Duh.


It sounds like (or maybe OP is just projecting) the kids would like more chill time at home on holidays, in which case stay in your jammies on Christmas. Let the kids stay in theirs. If her husband wants to swing by his parents', fine.


Op only talks about what she wants. She wants to be in pajamas and she doesn’t like going there. Not clear where the rest of the family stands.


"eat Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner IN MY PJs while letting the kids be silly instead of dressing up and having to manage them so they have good manners for their guests."

It's reasonable to think the kids would prefer not to be in a situation where Mom has to ride herd on them. Although I would stop and let the spouse handle his kids at his parents'


My kids prefer a holiday with lots of people and a party. Otherwise its like every other weekend. Sitting in pjs doing nothing? Nothing special about that.


Is this OP?
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Anonymous wrote:Stay home if you want to. If husband wants to take the kids, he can. People can be upset about it if they want. I'm not seeing the problem.


Presumably the problem is that OP would like to spend the holidays with her husband and kids. Duh.


It sounds like (or maybe OP is just projecting) the kids would like more chill time at home on holidays, in which case stay in your jammies on Christmas. Let the kids stay in theirs. If her husband wants to swing by his parents', fine.


Op only talks about what she wants. She wants to be in pajamas and she doesn’t like going there. Not clear where the rest of the family stands.


"eat Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner IN MY PJs while letting the kids be silly instead of dressing up and having to manage them so they have good manners for their guests."

It's reasonable to think the kids would prefer not to be in a situation where Mom has to ride herd on them. Although I would stop and let the spouse handle his kids at his parents'


My kids prefer a holiday with lots of people and a party. Otherwise its like every other weekend. Sitting in pjs doing nothing? Nothing special about that.


Is this OP?


Obviously not. But it’s not “reasonable” to conclude kids want to sit home and do nothing on a holiday.
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Anonymous wrote:Stay home if you want to. If husband wants to take the kids, he can. People can be upset about it if they want. I'm not seeing the problem.


Presumably the problem is that OP would like to spend the holidays with her husband and kids. Duh.


It sounds like (or maybe OP is just projecting) the kids would like more chill time at home on holidays, in which case stay in your jammies on Christmas. Let the kids stay in theirs. If her husband wants to swing by his parents', fine.


Op only talks about what she wants. She wants to be in pajamas and she doesn’t like going there. Not clear where the rest of the family stands.


"eat Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner IN MY PJs while letting the kids be silly instead of dressing up and having to manage them so they have good manners for their guests."

It's reasonable to think the kids would prefer not to be in a situation where Mom has to ride herd on them. Although I would stop and let the spouse handle his kids at his parents'


My kids prefer a holiday with lots of people and a party. Otherwise its like every other weekend. Sitting in pjs doing nothing? Nothing special about that.


Is this OP?


Obviously not. But it’s not “reasonable” to conclude kids want to sit home and do nothing on a holiday.


It is if they're being squashed into "acceptable" behavior for the duration of the visit.

Some kids like getting formal, at least occasionally. Some kids don't.
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Anonymous wrote:Stop doing Christmas there. You will really regret never having holidays at your own home or on vacation with your kids. Don’t let your in laws monopolize your holidays and force your kids to fit into their adult parties.


Really? We always did Thanksgiving with my ILs and Christmas with my family. No regrets.

Doing Christmas that was just us in 2020 was fine -- seamless change from the big family do. And returning to big family do was also fine.


Same.
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Anonymous wrote:Stop doing Christmas there. You will really regret never having holidays at your own home or on vacation with your kids. Don’t let your in laws monopolize your holidays and force your kids to fit into their adult parties.


This is definitely a cultural shift. I think that most people over many decades would equate holidays to spending time with their families (all of their family), not just a little nuclear family going on vacation for Christmas. Not that you can't do this, but acknowledge that many people, especially in the older generations, would find this selfish and not in keeping with the meaning of Christmas.


One of the biggest differences I've seen in this tradition, though, is that parents of adult children still seem to want to hoard hosting and to still be in charge of everything. We stopped caving to mom & MIL ages ago (who we love, but who also don't need to be calling all the shots), but they still really seem to struggle with not actively parenting/hosting despite us all being middle age or beyond. Small example - we started staying in hotels when visiting in-laws (game changer), and they still try to insist on driving us back & forth for visits to the house instead of "letting" us take ubers. (We take the ubers anyway, but it's a fuss every single time. Insane.)

They see their "shoulds" as universal. It was work to help him see this, but I'm grateful that my DH was able to recognize that we get to make our own shoulds, and we were both glad to be as compassionate as possible while knowing fully that people would be upset when we didn't do their shoulds.

So for people in the OP's shoes - if this is at all relevant, you have to pick who's going to make your decisions for you. I get it - it's a lot harder when you're not on the same page as your spouse. It also seems to be affecting the quality of what you'd like to be a very different experience for holidays and it's also something that you're trying to negotiate that he's just shutting down and that's not fair. Would it be worth it to do a few couples sessions to sort things out so they feel more fair? It would be nice for you not to dread the holidays!


When it got to be too much, I started hosting both sides of the local family. My kids are grown with children, and I happily surrendered the hosting duties when grandchildren came. I’m just happy to be invited if they host. My parents have both passed away, but I do treasure those family holidays.
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Anonymous wrote:Stay home if you want to. If husband wants to take the kids, he can. People can be upset about it if they want. I'm not seeing the problem.


Presumably the problem is that OP would like to spend the holidays with her husband and kids. Duh.


It sounds like (or maybe OP is just projecting) the kids would like more chill time at home on holidays, in which case stay in your jammies on Christmas. Let the kids stay in theirs. If her husband wants to swing by his parents', fine.


Op only talks about what she wants. She wants to be in pajamas and she doesn’t like going there. Not clear where the rest of the family stands.


"eat Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner IN MY PJs while letting the kids be silly instead of dressing up and having to manage them so they have good manners for their guests."

It's reasonable to think the kids would prefer not to be in a situation where Mom has to ride herd on them. Although I would stop and let the spouse handle his kids at his parents'


My kids prefer a holiday with lots of people and a party. Otherwise its like every other weekend. Sitting in pjs doing nothing? Nothing special about that.


Is this OP?


Obviously not. But it’s not “reasonable” to conclude kids want to sit home and do nothing on a holiday.


It is if they're being squashed into "acceptable" behavior for the duration of the visit.

Some kids like getting formal, at least occasionally. Some kids don't.


Yes but OP used a lot of I and ME and not us and we so she could very well be the odd person out here.
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