What's the benefit of Metro volleyball travel team?

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD will try out Metro 13T this Friday, so what you said is even she got in, she may not stay in travel team in the future? I got mixed feedbacks about Metro 13T coaching staff.

Just because you asked this question, I believe your DD will not make it into Metro 13T. If your DD was at the level of Metro 13T, you would have known the answer to this question.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD will try out Metro 13T this Friday, so what you said is even she got in, she may not stay in travel team in the future? I got mixed feedbacks about Metro 13T coaching staff.

Just because you asked this question, I believe your DD will not make it into Metro 13T. If your DD was at the level of Metro 13T, you would have known the answer to this question.

Agree, I believe you would already know if your daughter was going to make the team. Metro makes verbal offers before Tryouts.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD will try out Metro 13T this Friday, so what you said is even she got in, she may not stay in travel team in the future? I got mixed feedbacks about Metro 13T coaching staff.

Just because you asked this question, I believe your DD will not make it into Metro 13T. If your DD was at the level of Metro 13T, you would have known the answer to this question.

Agree, I believe you would already know if your daughter was going to make the team. Metro makes verbal offers before Tryouts.

I doubt that Metro coaches break the CHRVA rules by making offers before tryouts. But this is not about verbal offers. If the DD was at the level where she could play for Metro 13T, the whole family would be more knowledgeable about volleyball. There would be no questions about the possibility of being removed from the travel team in the future. This is too basic.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD will try out Metro 13T this Friday, so what you said is even she got in, she may not stay in travel team in the future? I got mixed feedbacks about Metro 13T coaching staff.

These posters are being mean and you are obviously new. I’ll answer for you. There is no guarantee for anyone in any year. She could play for a club for years and if another player comes along that they want, she gets cut. Always try out for multiple clubs every year. There will never be a guaranteed spot. Someone could move from out of state and take the solid player’s spot.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD will try out Metro 13T this Friday, so what you said is even she got in, she may not stay in travel team in the future? I got mixed feedbacks about Metro 13T coaching staff.

These posters are being mean and you are obviously new. I’ll answer for you. There is no guarantee for anyone in any year. She could play for a club for years and if another player comes along that they want, she gets cut. Always try out for multiple clubs every year. There will never be a guaranteed spot. Someone could move from out of state and take the solid player’s spot.

I agree some of these responses are unnecessarily harsh. All of us were new at some point. This response is accurate - a spot on a team is only for a single season. Generally speaking, most clubs bring back many players from one season to the next, but there are no guarantees.

More competitive clubs are also usually pretty open about the fact that a minimum amount of playing time is not guaranteed so if your DD gets an offer for 13T, you need to consider how she might handle not playing as much as she has in the past.

Good luck!

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD will try out Metro 13T this Friday, so what you said is even she got in, she may not stay in travel team in the future? I got mixed feedbacks about Metro 13T coaching staff.

These posters are being mean and you are obviously new. I’ll answer for you. There is no guarantee for anyone in any year. She could play for a club for years and if another player comes along that they want, she gets cut. Always try out for multiple clubs every year. There will never be a guaranteed spot. Someone could move from out of state and take the solid player’s spot.

I’m not that poster but thank you for your kindness. My daughter is pretty good but I don’t particularly like or follow volleyball and have left this all to her father and to her. She is a pretty independent kid and does her own research and talks to coaches and stuff—I am pretty hands off and just drive her where I am told to drive and give her my credit card to pay for what she needs! Honestly it makes my head spin.

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I would say that finishing 5th place at the 2023 18 Open Nationals (which is the all time CHRVA Record) with only 1 Power 4 player on the roster would be considered doing more with less, especially considering Metro's team that season had 7+ P4 commitments (and most of the teams with open bids in the 18 open field have upwards of 5+ Power 4 players). That team also had a 5'6" MB and a 5'7" OH. I'd also consider that doing more with less.
I assume that it's the same poster that continually cherry picks that result from 2 seasons ago to claim some sort of superiority over Metro. Congrats on the great result. How'd last year's Paramount 18s finish at USAV Nationals?

It's still insulting to call Paramount athletes "less" than those at other clubs.

A feat of success from two years ago that Metro in 25 years has never accomplished (even though the esteemed Club Director of Metro has been coaching 18s for the last 15 years for the club). Metro families and players will always make excuses

Its crazy to see these clubs and their parents fighting over who the best 18 team is. For both 18s teams last year, less than half of their players played with their club for more than 1 year. A number of those new players came into the team as starters, displacing returning players. So at the 18s age group at least its largely pointless to argue about who the best club is. Both Metro and Paramount's primary development and recruiting pipeline for their older teams is now to obtain players from other clubs.

The 2023 Paramount 18s had a great season and ended with a great accomplishment, no one can argue that. But even that team which Paramount and families hype up all the time as the example of Paramount's incredible success had less than half of the players playing with them at U16s. There were just 3 players out of 15 on the Paramount 18s from that year that played on Paramount's U15 back in 2020. BTW, Metro's #s aren't much different for their 18s teams from 2023 and earlier.

BTW, Paramount's 18s this year will have a lot of turnover with so many players leaving the 17s during the season last year. They've been recruiting incredibly hard trying to get players to switch clubs.

I agree, there is no need to brag about the best 18s team, the same way as there is no need to brag about the best [insert age group here] team. At the same time, there is no need to always point out that half of the team came from other clubs. The players decide where they want to play each season based on their own circumstances. If they make the team they want, that's their team and they are on that club's roster. Each club needs to figure out how to keep their talent from moving on to other clubs. In my books, the best team is the one that comes on top in AES systems. The club where the second team came from didn't do more with less. We are talking about very talented athletes and it's hard to predict how the game will go when they face each other. I have a lot of respect for both Metro and Paramount players: we lost every time we played against them, but they know how to win with grace. (Apologies for the double post - I screwed up my previous post)

I agree with almost all of this. On the issue of players moving between clubs, I understood the PP's reason for raising that issue was to point out that the most successful team in Paramount's history was made up of athletes who received the majority of their training at other clubs, which is counter to the assertion that is made all the time on these forums that Paramount's success is due only to their superior training, and not the talented athletes they are able to recruit or the skills these athletes develop at other clubs prior to joining Paramount. But I very much agree with the idea that every season is a new season and players decide where they want to play among the options available to them. Moving between clubs is natural and to be expected, and the ability of a club to attract and retain the best athletes is a key factor in how successful a club can be.

Thanks, you were correct in the point being made. Both Paramount and Metro defenders on this use lots of examples of a teams performance to highlight their clubs success. I wasn't saying the clubs aren't very good or that they don't deserve their success, rather that the success doesn't always (or often) come from their internal development of players over years. The vast majority of players in CHRVA haven't had the experience of playing in either of these clubs, and its information that most people aren't aware of unless they've actually played for one of them.

I also agree that every season is a new season and that certain clubs have a much better ability to attract the best athletes. I wouldn't agree that they are better at retaining talent. The numbers don't support that, at least over the last few years. Whether its by athlete choice or by club choice the turnover at both Paramount and Metro at the older age groups tends to be higher than the other top tier clubs in the region.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD will try out Metro 13T this Friday, so what you said is even she got in, she may not stay in travel team in the future? I got mixed feedbacks about Metro 13T coaching staff.

These posters are being mean and you are obviously new. I’ll answer for you. There is no guarantee for anyone in any year. She could play for a club for years and if another player comes along that they want, she gets cut. Always try out for multiple clubs every year. There will never be a guaranteed spot. Someone could move from out of state and take the solid player’s spot.

I agree some of these responses are unnecessarily harsh. All of us were new at some point. This response is accurate - a spot on a team is only for a single season. Generally speaking, most clubs bring back many players from one season to the next, but there are no guarantees.

More competitive clubs are also usually pretty open about the fact that a minimum amount of playing time is not guaranteed so if your DD gets an offer for 13T, you need to consider how she might handle not playing as much as she has in the past.

Good luck!

This is simply mean. Why would you give this parent the hope that their player would make the Metro 13T team? I understand being nice, but their Friday will be a waste of time and money. OP, ask Metro if they can transfer your money toward a regional team tryout. You may not make a regional team either, but your player will not look completely unaware.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD will try out Metro 13T this Friday, so what you said is even she got in, she may not stay in travel team in the future? I got mixed feedbacks about Metro 13T coaching staff.

These posters are being mean and you are obviously new. I’ll answer for you. There is no guarantee for anyone in any year. She could play for a club for years and if another player comes along that they want, she gets cut. Always try out for multiple clubs every year. There will never be a guaranteed spot. Someone could move from out of state and take the solid player’s spot.

I agree some of these responses are unnecessarily harsh. All of us were new at some point. This response is accurate - a spot on a team is only for a single season. Generally speaking, most clubs bring back many players from one season to the next, but there are no guarantees.

More competitive clubs are also usually pretty open about the fact that a minimum amount of playing time is not guaranteed so if your DD gets an offer for 13T, you need to consider how she might handle not playing as much as she has in the past.

Good luck!

This is simply mean. Why would you give this parent the hope that their player would make the Metro 13T team? I understand being nice, but their Friday will be a waste of time and money. OP, ask Metro if they can transfer your money toward a regional team tryout. You may not make a regional team either, but your player will not look completely unaware.

There isn’t enough information to know whether she might make it or not. Maybe she’s 6’3” at 12? Metro has certainly taken their fair share of tall girls for 13T who haven’t played a ton of volleyball yet. If she’s average height (or less), hasn’t been noticed at fall clinics, and is just planning on showing up to tryouts, then yes, you’re correct - she won’t be getting an offer and would be better off using that tryout time/money for another team.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD will try out Metro 13T this Friday, so what you said is even she got in, she may not stay in travel team in the future? I got mixed feedbacks about Metro 13T coaching staff.

These posters are being mean and you are obviously new. I’ll answer for you. There is no guarantee for anyone in any year. She could play for a club for years and if another player comes along that they want, she gets cut. Always try out for multiple clubs every year. There will never be a guaranteed spot. Someone could move from out of state and take the solid player’s spot.

I agree some of these responses are unnecessarily harsh. All of us were new at some point. This response is accurate - a spot on a team is only for a single season. Generally speaking, most clubs bring back many players from one season to the next, but there are no guarantees.

More competitive clubs are also usually pretty open about the fact that a minimum amount of playing time is not guaranteed so if your DD gets an offer for 13T, you need to consider how she might handle not playing as much as she has in the past.

Good luck!

This is simply mean. Why would you give this parent the hope that their player would make the Metro 13T team? I understand being nice, but their Friday will be a waste of time and money. OP, ask Metro if they can transfer your money toward a regional team tryout. You may not make a regional team either, but your player will not look completely unaware.

There isn’t enough information to know whether she might make it or not. Maybe she’s 6’3” at 12? Metro has certainly taken their fair share of tall girls for 13T who haven’t played a ton of volleyball yet. If she’s average height (or less), hasn’t been noticed at fall clinics, and is just planning on showing up to tryouts, then yes, you’re correct - she won’t be getting an offer and would be better off using that tryout time/money for another team.

It's also possible that this poster's DD was a volleyball player in one of her previous lives and can jump serve since she was 6. Let's talk probabilities rather than possibilities. It's probable that the player has no volleyball experience other than rec. The probability of having a height of 6'3" is remote: 95% of the 13 yo girls are shorter than 5'6" (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_03/sr03-046-508.pdf). Would a 5'6" player with rec experience only make it into Metro 13T?

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD will try out Metro 13T this Friday, so what you said is even she got in, she may not stay in travel team in the future? I got mixed feedbacks about Metro 13T coaching staff.

These posters are being mean and you are obviously new. I’ll answer for you. There is no guarantee for anyone in any year. She could play for a club for years and if another player comes along that they want, she gets cut. Always try out for multiple clubs every year. There will never be a guaranteed spot. Someone could move from out of state and take the solid player’s spot.

I agree some of these responses are unnecessarily harsh. All of us were new at some point. This response is accurate - a spot on a team is only for a single season. Generally speaking, most clubs bring back many players from one season to the next, but there are no guarantees.

More competitive clubs are also usually pretty open about the fact that a minimum amount of playing time is not guaranteed so if your DD gets an offer for 13T, you need to consider how she might handle not playing as much as she has in the past.

Good luck!

This is simply mean. Why would you give this parent the hope that their player would make the Metro 13T team? I understand being nice, but their Friday will be a waste of time and money. OP, ask Metro if they can transfer your money toward a regional team tryout. You may not make a regional team either, but your player will not look completely unaware.

There isn’t enough information to know whether she might make it or not. Maybe she’s 6’3” at 12? Metro has certainly taken their fair share of tall girls for 13T who haven’t played a ton of volleyball yet. If she’s average height (or less), hasn’t been noticed at fall clinics, and is just planning on showing up to tryouts, then yes, you’re correct - she won’t be getting an offer and would be better off using that tryout time/money for another team.

It's also possible that this poster's DD was a volleyball player in one of her previous lives and can jump serve since she was 6. Let's talk probabilities rather than possibilities. It's probable that the player has no volleyball experience other than rec. The probability of having a height of 6'3" is remote: 95% of the 13 yo girls are shorter than 5'6" (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_03/sr03-046-508.pdf). Would a 5'6" player with rec experience only make it into Metro 13T?

So you're saying there's a chance.

I get what you're saying, but someone is going to make the team. I agree that based on the way the question was framed that this poster doesn't seem particularly knowledgeable which probably indicates they are not wise in the ways of CHRVA volleyball and may not understand how difficult it is to make a Metro Travel, Paramount, or similar team.

If the poster who asked the question is still following along, please be aware that making a Metro Travel team is extremely difficult. Metro Travel and a handful of other teams (for 13s, I would include Paramount, MDJRs, and MVSA) are consistently the top 13s teams in the region. Since more experienced parents know that, the best players in the region will be trying out for these teams. Players that are really tall or have exceptional skills/athletic ability are really the only ones that will seriously be considered. If your DD is a beginner or intermediate player, the chance of making a Metro Travel team is almost zero. There will be dozens (or more) girls trying out for those 12ish roster spots, and most of them will likely have club experience and will already be known to the coaches. These will be the girls who have been coming to clinics all September and October and in most instances, a coach or the club director will have already had a conversation with them encouraging them to tryout. If that doesn't describe your DD, she should definitely be trying out at other clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD will try out Metro 13T this Friday, so what you said is even she got in, she may not stay in travel team in the future? I got mixed feedbacks about Metro 13T coaching staff.

These posters are being mean and you are obviously new. I’ll answer for you. There is no guarantee for anyone in any year. She could play for a club for years and if another player comes along that they want, she gets cut. Always try out for multiple clubs every year. There will never be a guaranteed spot. Someone could move from out of state and take the solid player’s spot.

I agree some of these responses are unnecessarily harsh. All of us were new at some point. This response is accurate - a spot on a team is only for a single season. Generally speaking, most clubs bring back many players from one season to the next, but there are no guarantees.

More competitive clubs are also usually pretty open about the fact that a minimum amount of playing time is not guaranteed so if your DD gets an offer for 13T, you need to consider how she might handle not playing as much as she has in the past.

Good luck!

This is simply mean. Why would you give this parent the hope that their player would make the Metro 13T team? I understand being nice, but their Friday will be a waste of time and money. OP, ask Metro if they can transfer your money toward a regional team tryout. You may not make a regional team either, but your player will not look completely unaware.

There isn’t enough information to know whether she might make it or not. Maybe she’s 6’3” at 12? Metro has certainly taken their fair share of tall girls for 13T who haven’t played a ton of volleyball yet. If she’s average height (or less), hasn’t been noticed at fall clinics, and is just planning on showing up to tryouts, then yes, you’re correct - she won’t be getting an offer and would be better off using that tryout time/money for another team.

It's also possible that this poster's DD was a volleyball player in one of her previous lives and can jump serve since she was 6. Let's talk probabilities rather than possibilities. It's probable that the player has no volleyball experience other than rec. The probability of having a height of 6'3" is remote: 95% of the 13 yo girls are shorter than 5'6" (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_03/sr03-046-508.pdf). Would a 5'6" player with rec experience only make it into Metro 13T?

So you're saying there's a chance.

I get what you're saying, but someone is going to make the team. I agree that based on the way the question was framed that this poster doesn't seem particularly knowledgeable which probably indicates they are not wise in the ways of CHRVA volleyball and may not understand how difficult it is to make a Metro Travel, Paramount, or similar team.

If the poster who asked the question is still following along, please be aware that making a Metro Travel team is extremely difficult. Metro Travel and a handful of other teams (for 13s, I would include Paramount, MDJRs, and MVSA) are consistently the top 13s teams in the region. Since more experienced parents know that, the best players in the region will be trying out for these teams. Players that are really tall or have exceptional skills/athletic ability are really the only ones that will seriously be considered. If your DD is a beginner or intermediate player, the chance of making a Metro Travel team is almost zero. There will be dozens (or more) girls trying out for those 12ish roster spots, and most of them will likely have club experience and will already be known to the coaches. These will be the girls who have been coming to clinics all September and October and in most instances, a coach or the club director will have already had a conversation with them encouraging them to tryout. If that doesn't describe your DD, she should definitely be trying out at other clubs.[/quote
Here is the fact for last two seasons: each season Metro 13T took 3 starters from mdjrs, 3 starters from Mvsa, 2 from Metro East and North,1 from Metro 13t of previous year. So if your kid is not the starter from these teams I'll suggest tryout other clubs. Metro 13T coach duo is maybe the worst coaching duo. Last season in capitol hill finals we were leading 12:1 in the 3rd set and lost. The coach just didn't know how to coach. They grabbed almost all talents of chrva !

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD will try out Metro 13T this Friday, so what you said is even she got in, she may not stay in travel team in the future? I got mixed feedbacks about Metro 13T coaching staff.

These posters are being mean and you are obviously new. I’ll answer for you. There is no guarantee for anyone in any year. She could play for a club for years and if another player comes along that they want, she gets cut. Always try out for multiple clubs every year. There will never be a guaranteed spot. Someone could move from out of state and take the solid player’s spot.

I agree some of these responses are unnecessarily harsh. All of us were new at some point. This response is accurate - a spot on a team is only for a single season. Generally speaking, most clubs bring back many players from one season to the next, but there are no guarantees.

More competitive clubs are also usually pretty open about the fact that a minimum amount of playing time is not guaranteed so if your DD gets an offer for 13T, you need to consider how she might handle not playing as much as she has in the past.

Good luck!

This is simply mean. Why would you give this parent the hope that their player would make the Metro 13T team? I understand being nice, but their Friday will be a waste of time and money. OP, ask Metro if they can transfer your money toward a regional team tryout. You may not make a regional team either, but your player will not look completely unaware.

There isn’t enough information to know whether she might make it or not. Maybe she’s 6’3” at 12? Metro has certainly taken their fair share of tall girls for 13T who haven’t played a ton of volleyball yet. If she’s average height (or less), hasn’t been noticed at fall clinics, and is just planning on showing up to tryouts, then yes, you’re correct - she won’t be getting an offer and would be better off using that tryout time/money for another team.

It's also possible that this poster's DD was a volleyball player in one of her previous lives and can jump serve since she was 6. Let's talk probabilities rather than possibilities. It's probable that the player has no volleyball experience other than rec. The probability of having a height of 6'3" is remote: 95% of the 13 yo girls are shorter than 5'6" (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_03/sr03-046-508.pdf). Would a 5'6" player with rec experience only make it into Metro 13T?

So you're saying there's a chance.

I get what you're saying, but someone is going to make the team. I agree that based on the way the question was framed that this poster doesn't seem particularly knowledgeable which probably indicates they are not wise in the ways of CHRVA volleyball and may not understand how difficult it is to make a Metro Travel, Paramount, or similar team.

If the poster who asked the question is still following along, please be aware that making a Metro Travel team is extremely difficult. Metro Travel and a handful of other teams (for 13s, I would include Paramount, MDJRs, and MVSA) are consistently the top 13s teams in the region. Since more experienced parents know that, the best players in the region will be trying out for these teams. Players that are really tall or have exceptional skills/athletic ability are really the only ones that will seriously be considered. If your DD is a beginner or intermediate player, the chance of making a Metro Travel team is almost zero. There will be dozens (or more) girls trying out for those 12ish roster spots, and most of them will likely have club experience and will already be known to the coaches. These will be the girls who have been coming to clinics all September and October and in most instances, a coach or the club director will have already had a conversation with them encouraging them to tryout. If that doesn't describe your DD, she should definitely be trying out at other clubs.

Here is the fact for last two seasons: each season Metro 13T took 3 starters from mdjrs, 3 starters from Mvsa, 2 from Metro East and North,1 from Metro 13t of previous year. So if your kid is not the starter from these teams I'll suggest tryout other clubs. Metro 13T coach duo is maybe the worst coaching duo. Last season in capitol hill finals we were leading 12:1 in the 3rd set and lost. The coach just didn't know how to coach. They grabbed almost all talents of chrva !

Because everyone knows that losing one game is the fault of the coach and a definite proof of poor coaching. Can you tell us how the lives of these athletes are going to go downhill from here?

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD will try out Metro 13T this Friday, so what you said is even she got in, she may not stay in travel team in the future? I got mixed feedbacks about Metro 13T coaching staff.

These posters are being mean and you are obviously new. I’ll answer for you. There is no guarantee for anyone in any year. She could play for a club for years and if another player comes along that they want, she gets cut. Always try out for multiple clubs every year. There will never be a guaranteed spot. Someone could move from out of state and take the solid player’s spot.

I agree some of these responses are unnecessarily harsh. All of us were new at some point. This response is accurate - a spot on a team is only for a single season. Generally speaking, most clubs bring back many players from one season to the next, but there are no guarantees.

More competitive clubs are also usually pretty open about the fact that a minimum amount of playing time is not guaranteed so if your DD gets an offer for 13T, you need to consider how she might handle not playing as much as she has in the past.

Good luck!

This is simply mean. Why would you give this parent the hope that their player would make the Metro 13T team? I understand being nice, but their Friday will be a waste of time and money. OP, ask Metro if they can transfer your money toward a regional team tryout. You may not make a regional team either, but your player will not look completely unaware.

There isn’t enough information to know whether she might make it or not. Maybe she’s 6’3” at 12? Metro has certainly taken their fair share of tall girls for 13T who haven’t played a ton of volleyball yet. If she’s average height (or less), hasn’t been noticed at fall clinics, and is just planning on showing up to tryouts, then yes, you’re correct - she won’t be getting an offer and would be better off using that tryout time/money for another team.

It's also possible that this poster's DD was a volleyball player in one of her previous lives and can jump serve since she was 6. Let's talk probabilities rather than possibilities. It's probable that the player has no volleyball experience other than rec. The probability of having a height of 6'3" is remote: 95% of the 13 yo girls are shorter than 5'6" (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_03/sr03-046-508.pdf). Would a 5'6" player with rec experience only make it into Metro 13T?

So you're saying there's a chance.

I get what you're saying, but someone is going to make the team. I agree that based on the way the question was framed that this poster doesn't seem particularly knowledgeable which probably indicates they are not wise in the ways of CHRVA volleyball and may not understand how difficult it is to make a Metro Travel, Paramount, or similar team.

If the poster who asked the question is still following along, please be aware that making a Metro Travel team is extremely difficult. Metro Travel and a handful of other teams (for 13s, I would include Paramount, MDJRs, and MVSA) are consistently the top 13s teams in the region. Since more experienced parents know that, the best players in the region will be trying out for these teams. Players that are really tall or have exceptional skills/athletic ability are really the only ones that will seriously be considered. If your DD is a beginner or intermediate player, the chance of making a Metro Travel team is almost zero. There will be dozens (or more) girls trying out for those 12ish roster spots, and most of them will likely have club experience and will already be known to the coaches. These will be the girls who have been coming to clinics all September and October and in most instances, a coach or the club director will have already had a conversation with them encouraging them to tryout. If that doesn't describe your DD, she should definitely be trying out at other clubs.

Here is the fact for last two seasons: each season Metro 13T took 3 starters from mdjrs, 3 starters from Mvsa, 2 from Metro East and North,1 from Metro 13t of previous year. So if your kid is not the starter from these teams I'll suggest tryout other clubs. Metro 13T coach duo is maybe the worst coaching duo. Last season in capitol hill finals we were leading 12:1 in the 3rd set and lost. The coach just didn't know how to coach. They grabbed almost all talents of chrva !

It’s crazy how Metro “took” and “grabbed” these players away from other clubs. I’m pretty sure these players exercised their own independent decision making powers and chose to go to another club because they and their parents believed it to be the best choice. The fact that they didn’t win this single match doesn’t make that a bad choice.

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Us newbies with kids just starting club want Metro to "take" and "grab" these players. More space for our kids at the other clubs! Also, some say that Metro can't take credit for training these kids, but they can take credit for attracting them. There's some appeal to the club if kids are leaving their developmental clubs to play for Metro.

And to be clear, I don't have a dog in the fight. I'm a new-to-club entrant whose DD did a metro pre-tryout skills clinic and found their training to be better than any of the other pre-tryout clinics we've tried.