8/20 2024 BOE meeting

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Anonymous wrote:PP - just in case someone replies about MCPS not being transparent again………..



https://moco360.media/2024/04/10/mcps-considers-adding-vape-weapons-detection-systems-mandatory-ids-to-improve-school-safety/

I'm confused. What transparency was demonstrated in the press release by Felder?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP - just in case someone replies about MCPS not being transparent again………..



https://moco360.media/2024/04/10/mcps-considers-adding-vape-weapons-detection-systems-mandatory-ids-to-improve-school-safety/

I'm confused. What transparency was demonstrated in the press release by Felder?

Someone here asked where the money would come from. Valid question in the light of recent budget issues. Article answered where the money came from. Sorry that was confusing for you.

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Anonymous wrote:I want the vape detectors, but I'm curious when they are screaming they have no money, were they are getting this extra money from?

Actually, you should be more curious about the pilot and how effective it was or wasn't at curbing the undesired behavior. That's what Grace and Praneel were getting at and what she was skeptical of.

Yep. One of them asked, won't the detector go off if someone is wearing perfume. So, is perfume and deodorant being banned in schools?? Yikes.

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Anonymous wrote:I want the vape detectors, but I'm curious when they are screaming they have no money, were they are getting this extra money from?

MCPS received 1.2 mil from a vape company that was part of a national settlement.

Can't we sue the manufacturers of other vices to reopen MVA? Alcohol? Soft drinks? Reality TV?

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By the time someone gets to the bathroom where the vape detector went off, the culprit will be long gone. And there aren't enough staff to hang out at all bathrooms.

Blocking SM on the MCPS network only punishes those who don't have cellular data. Am guessing but don't know, that is the poor kids? Seems like not a great idea

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Anonymous wrote:By the time someone gets to the bathroom where the vape detector went off, the culprit will be long gone. And there aren't enough staff to hang out at all bathrooms.

Blocking SM on the MCPS network only punishes those who don't have cellular data. Am guessing but don't know, that is the poor kids? Seems like not a great idea

Brenda pointed out the glaring hole in relying on blocking social sites by Wi-Fi only. There wasn't a great response from Stephanie Sheron.

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Anonymous wrote:I want the vape detectors, but I'm curious when they are screaming they have no money, were they are getting this extra money from?

Actually, you should be more curious about the pilot and how effective it was or wasn't at curbing the undesired behavior. That's what Grace and Praneel were getting at and what she was skeptical of.

Yep. One of them asked, won't the detector go off if someone is wearing perfume. So, is perfume and deodorant being banned in schools?? Yikes.

They won't be able to ban perfume or deodorant, so eventually schools will just ignore the vape detectors or turn them off, which will be a waste of the millions allocated to procure and install them. Which is precisely what Grace is worried about.

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Anonymous wrote:vape detection sensors for restrooms at HS. once a sensor goes off, someone at the HS goes in and address the issue. WHO exactly is going to be that adult, Mr. Jones?? A teacher??

You’re complaining about Marcus Jones wanting to do something about pervasive vaping in school? Maybe it will be a teacher may be an administrator, but I am so happy they’re doing something to physically address the issue as soon as it’s happening.

no. no one is complaining about detectors nor that he wants to do something about the issue.
Have you been on the ground/within the school during school hours, during passing times, lunch times?
If you have not, do not comment on questioning of who will carry out the wonderful proposed policies or practices.

+1. This is not going to be solved with just monitors if there are not people available to respond to both the alarm and likely vandalism of such devices.

It’s easy to say we are not closing bathrooms until there are problems.

As others have said, what is the monitoring going to be and what are the consequences? For RJ, what has been the update training particular to schools with coaches and not Specialists.

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Anonymous wrote:I want the vape detectors, but I'm curious when they are screaming they have no money, were they are getting this extra money from?

Actually, you should be more curious about the pilot and how effective it was or wasn't at curbing the undesired behavior. That's what Grace and Praneel were getting at and what she was skeptical of.

Yep. One of them asked, won't the detector go off if someone is wearing perfume. So, is perfume and deodorant being banned in schools?? Yikes.

They won't be able to ban perfume or deodorant, so eventually schools will just ignore the vape detectors or turn them off, which will be a waste of the millions allocated to procure and install them. Which is precisely what Grace is worried about.

Then ban those also. No aerosols. Solid or Gel.

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Anonymous wrote:By the time someone gets to the bathroom where the vape detector went off, the culprit will be long gone. And there aren't enough staff to hang out at all bathrooms.

Blocking SM on the MCPS network only punishes those who don't have cellular data. Am guessing but don't know, that is the poor kids? Seems like not a great idea

Brenda pointed out the glaring hole in relying on blocking social sites by Wi-Fi only. There wasn't a great response from Stephanie Sheron.

No solution is full proof, but the point is to make progress in limiting distractions as well as the sharing of fights. This paired with an Away All Day model that is enforced is a start in the right direction.

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Anonymous wrote:By the time someone gets to the bathroom where the vape detector went off, the culprit will be long gone. And there aren't enough staff to hang out at all bathrooms.

Blocking SM on the MCPS network only punishes those who don't have cellular data. Am guessing but don't know, that is the poor kids? Seems like not a great idea

Brenda pointed out the glaring hole in relying on blocking social sites by Wi-Fi only. There wasn't a great response from Stephanie Sheron.

No solution is full proof, but the point is to make progress in limiting distractions as well as the sharing of fights. This paired with an Away All Day model that is enforced is a start in the right direction.

I think we can all agree it is most important to keep the poors off social media.

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Anonymous wrote:Probably will hear from many many heartbroken and disappointed mva families.

MVA will be at each and every BOE meeting until the MVA is restored. But, otherwise nothing will come of the BOE meeting. The BOE is a joke.

I don't know why the BOE is still allowing MVA testimonies when they clearly have the ability to screen and filter out testimonies based on topics that aren't on the BOE's agenda for that meeting.

Why screen it? MVA famlies have a right to speak and will continue.

They've already spoken. Now they're just wasting everyone's time.

They are working on funding for next school year. They can easily reopen it. Its not a waste of time if its important to them. Why are you so hateful and bitter to the MVA? What experience do you have with it?

They're not. The BoE and council had opportunities to fund it, and they chose not to. The budget situation is likely to get worse before it gets better. If Courtney and Sterling were serious about finding a long-term solution to virtual school, they'd be lobbying the state to create a program, rather than continuing to whine to the people that already told them no.

Even if the state created a program, MCPS would have to pay for it. Are you really that clueless? All the state can do is approve a private program, which will cost more than the MVA. Why the obsession with the state doing it? States only approve programs, they do not run programs.

But two BOE members are virtual because they want that option.

That's intereting isn't it. They also are known to work virtually regularly. But, some are working two jobs, not sure how they can work full time, lets say at MC and the BOE. More interesting given they are working full-time at another job, they are asking for a pay raise.

If you don't effectively compensate elected representatives for their time, you get one of these as candidates:

1) Wealthy socialites who don't need compensation
2) Folks whose alternate employment opportunities are limited to at or near minimum wage
3) Ideologues willing to sacrifice financially to push their agenda
4) Folks that will spend the absolute minimum time on the job

If you want highly capable representatives spending the more-than-full-time needed to do this job well (it covers 200+ schools and a multi-billion-dollar budget), then you need to offer commensurate compensation, say the equivalent of a GS-14 step 6 or so with the locality adjustment for this area -- somewhere north of $160k. Then you can expect them not to have other jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, the security segment is a good segment that everyone should listen to.

Agreed. Recording should be available for those who can not attend or listen live.

Its saved on youtube and their website.

So...not accessible from the school network anymore? (assuming the content linked on their website is hosted on YouTube in the first place)

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Anonymous wrote:By the time someone gets to the bathroom where the vape detector went off, the culprit will be long gone. And there aren't enough staff to hang out at all bathrooms.

Blocking SM on the MCPS network only punishes those who don't have cellular data. Am guessing but don't know, that is the poor kids? Seems like not a great idea

Brenda pointed out the glaring hole in relying on blocking social sites by Wi-Fi only. There wasn't a great response from Stephanie Sheron.

No solution is full proof, but the point is to make progress in limiting distractions as well as the sharing of fights. This paired with an Away All Day model that is enforced is a start in the right direction.

Away all day? They will use them during lunch, no?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP - just in case someone replies about MCPS not being transparent again………..



https://moco360.media/2024/04/10/mcps-considers-adding-vape-weapons-detection-systems-mandatory-ids-to-improve-school-safety/

I'm confused. What transparency was demonstrated in the press release by Felder?

Someone here asked where the money would come from. Valid question in the light of recent budget issues. Article answered where the money came from. Sorry that was confusing for you.

They have money for what's important to them. It is intesting. The Vaping is coming from a settlement, but some of the other proposals its unclear.