What’s happening with the old White Flint mall development?

[Anonymous]

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Seriously, anyone making that comparison has never been to the real St James.

Can someone explain what this is to those who don’t have kids dedicated to team sports?

It’s also a gym, spa, water park, etc.

https://www.thestjames.com/location/springfield

“With 450,000 square feet to explore, we’re as committed to your improvement as you are. The St. James Flagship Springfield, VA combines a state-of-the-art sports complex with high-performance workout studios and premier entertainment and lifestyle experiences, so you can pursue your passions without pause.”

I'm hoping for something at the White Flint mall site that isn't mostly parking lots.

Ok, I am hoping for something that benefits the county and its residents in the forms of jobs and prestige and as a core destination that will generate other growth. The number of parking spaces needed to achieve that is an irrelevant metric.

Let me guess…you want some “walkable transit oriented variable density attainable housing fifteen minute city” that has bike lanes down the hallways that you can ride to your local sustainable coffee shop?

I mean, look, we could build a facility and the doors can all make choo choo sounds when they open, would that be ok? We can make it Segway accessible.

Stop being such a sarcastic twit and contribute something positive to the debate.

Stop vetoing development just because it has parking. You’re being ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Seriously, anyone making that comparison has never been to the real St James.

Can someone explain what this is to those who don’t have kids dedicated to team sports?

It’s also a gym, spa, water park, etc.

https://www.thestjames.com/location/springfield

“With 450,000 square feet to explore, we’re as committed to your improvement as you are. The St. James Flagship Springfield, VA combines a state-of-the-art sports complex with high-performance workout studios and premier entertainment and lifestyle experiences, so you can pursue your passions without pause.”

I'm hoping for something at the White Flint mall site that isn't mostly parking lots.

Ok, I am hoping for something that benefits the county and its residents in the forms of jobs and prestige and as a core destination that will generate other growth. The number of parking spaces needed to achieve that is an irrelevant metric.

Let me guess…you want some “walkable transit oriented variable density attainable housing fifteen minute city” that has bike lanes down the hallways that you can ride to your local sustainable coffee shop?

I mean, look, we could build a facility and the doors can all make choo choo sounds when they open, would that be ok? We can make it Segway accessible.

Stop being such a sarcastic twit and contribute something positive to the debate.

Stop vetoing development just because it has parking. You’re being ridiculous.

Nobody is doing this, and nobody has advocated doing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Seriously, anyone making that comparison has never been to the real St James.

Can someone explain what this is to those who don’t have kids dedicated to team sports?

It’s also a gym, spa, water park, etc.

https://www.thestjames.com/location/springfield

“With 450,000 square feet to explore, we’re as committed to your improvement as you are. The St. James Flagship Springfield, VA combines a state-of-the-art sports complex with high-performance workout studios and premier entertainment and lifestyle experiences, so you can pursue your passions without pause.”

this would be amazing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Seriously, anyone making that comparison has never been to the real St James.

Can someone explain what this is to those who don’t have kids dedicated to team sports?

It’s also a gym, spa, water park, etc.

https://www.thestjames.com/location/springfield

“With 450,000 square feet to explore, we’re as committed to your improvement as you are. The St. James Flagship Springfield, VA combines a state-of-the-art sports complex with high-performance workout studios and premier entertainment and lifestyle experiences, so you can pursue your passions without pause.”

this would be amazing

The county is allergic to anything useful.

[Anonymous]

The shopping center across from White flint) close to Whole Foods but near the gas station - I only remember a Mexican restaurant being there, was bulldozed this month.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The shopping center across from White flint) close to Whole Foods but near the gas station - I only remember a Mexican restaurant being there, was bulldozed this month.

Dear, departed Chili’s!

[Anonymous]

Hank Dietle's is doing pretty well. I was worried they'd not survive after the fire, and with all the upscale development nearby (including Java Nation next door). I sure hope so.

[Anonymous]

I think they are having second thoughts on development since there's no more money in the county. They all left.

[Anonymous]

It’s ridiculous that this lot has been abandoned for years. The County should expropriate it at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think they are having second thoughts on development since there's no more money in the county. They all left.

Well, affordable housing seems needed, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are having second thoughts on development since there's no more money in the county. They all left.

Well, affordable housing seems needed, right?

Yes, and this is the perfect place for it! Or, type of place, more generally.

You could have housing, everything from affordable to market rate luxury, a grocery store and other commercial, and other amenities that would be useful to county residents that don’t live on site, like an indoor turf field, community center, whatever.

Instead the county wastes time and money having the planning department work on some ridiculous amorphous plan to build quadriplexes in SFH neighborhoods. We could be a serious county, but it seems that the local government refuses to make that a priority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s ridiculous that this lot has been abandoned for years. The County should expropriate it at this point.

It's been the "other girl" on quite a few things, Amazon/FBI HQ/Wizards and Caps/DC United etc, but is still a unique parcel (size, metro, roads, and close in) and therefore it will wait for something else. One of these days it will make it to the altar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are having second thoughts on development since there's no more money in the county. They all left.

Well, affordable housing seems needed, right?

Yes, and this is the perfect place for it! Or, type of place, more generally.

You could have housing, everything from affordable to market rate luxury, a grocery store and other commercial, and other amenities that would be useful to county residents that don’t live on site, like an indoor turf field, community center, whatever.

Instead the county wastes time and money having the planning department work on some ridiculous amorphous plan to build quadriplexes in SFH neighborhoods. We could be a serious county, but it seems that the local government refuses to make that a priority.

+1

White Flint and the old Sears location at White Oak. Develop those sites and a lot of the county’s housing needs could be solved. Right now they are just huge eyesores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are having second thoughts on development since there's no more money in the county. They all left.

Well, affordable housing seems needed, right?

Yes, and this is the perfect place for it! Or, type of place, more generally.

You could have housing, everything from affordable to market rate luxury, a grocery store and other commercial, and other amenities that would be useful to county residents that don’t live on site, like an indoor turf field, community center, whatever.

Instead the county wastes time and money having the planning department work on some ridiculous amorphous plan to build quadriplexes in SFH neighborhoods. We could be a serious county, but it seems that the local government refuses to make that a priority.

+1

White Flint and the old Sears location at White Oak. Develop those sites and a lot of the county’s housing needs could be solved. Right now they are just huge eyesores.

Tell the property owners.

Also, no, this would not solve "a lot" of the county's housing needs. It would be more housing (depending on what got built), which is good, but the other housing proposals would also still be necessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are having second thoughts on development since there's no more money in the county. They all left.

Well, affordable housing seems needed, right?

Yes, and this is the perfect place for it! Or, type of place, more generally.

You could have housing, everything from affordable to market rate luxury, a grocery store and other commercial, and other amenities that would be useful to county residents that don’t live on site, like an indoor turf field, community center, whatever.

Instead the county wastes time and money having the planning department work on some ridiculous amorphous plan to build quadriplexes in SFH neighborhoods. We could be a serious county, but it seems that the local government refuses to make that a priority.

+1

White Flint and the old Sears location at White Oak. Develop those sites and a lot of the county’s housing needs could be solved. Right now they are just huge eyesores.

Tell the property owners.

Also, no, this would not solve "a lot" of the county's housing needs. It would be more housing (depending on what got built), which is good, but the other housing proposals would also still be necessary.

Luckily, there are other plans and there is other housing in pipeline. There are also the corridor plans, though the outcomes of those are also unpredictable.

It would be convenient of the planning department would calculate how housing we need versus how much is planned to be built so that there we knew where we stood. Think of all the time they wasted on this ridiculous immeasurable attainable housing plan.