DC can’t decide

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Anonymous wrote:Where does he ultimately want to live? I have twins and one would consider living in the south, attended a sleepaway camp that was in nc but very southern for years, etc. His twin has zero interest in every living in the south. I think this matters bc ultimately if your dc would love to be in dc or ny them SC wouldn’t be as great an option. If he’s drawn to the south and wants to settle there then this is a no-brainer. I think he should look at where his alumni network will be strongest and where he’ll have the most college friends and connections.

Google before making inaccurate claims. https://uofscalumni.org/alumni_club/dc/

It’s silly to post an alumni club as any indication of where grads will have most career success.

Sure, there will be people getting jobs everywhere, but I agree with PP. it’s silly to think that a South Carolina grad will have as smooth sailing as a UVA grad or any number of prestigious privates in the DC job market.

Sorry I missed where OP said her kid was considering UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does he ultimately want to live? I have twins and one would consider living in the south, attended a sleepaway camp that was in nc but very southern for years, etc. His twin has zero interest in every living in the south. I think this matters bc ultimately if your dc would love to be in dc or ny them SC wouldn’t be as great an option. If he’s drawn to the south and wants to settle there then this is a no-brainer. I think he should look at where his alumni network will be strongest and where he’ll have the most college friends and connections.

This is dumb and not true anymore. Everyone is so connected now that you can go to school anywhere and settle down/find a job/internship anywhere these days. I went to college in Chicago and of all my former classmates, I can think of 3 who actually still live in Chicago. Almost everyone (including me) has moved on--living all around the world. Where you go to college does not determine or even necessarily factor in to where you one day will live.

It's not dumb and actually is quite true depending on what you want to do in life. Sorry...but you are at a huge disadvantage trying to get a job in SFO/Bay Area as a new college grad having gone to JMU or the University of South Carolina. Less so with William & Mary as it does have better recognition on the Coast. After your first job, that's a different story.

If you went to University of Chicago, that's different and not relevant. However, it is quite relevant for the actual schools under consideration here.

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Your kid is drawn to South Carolina so he should go there. He should go to the school he feels the most excited about. If it were me I'd want the prestige and smaller size of W&M over the other 2 schools but I can certainly understand why your DC doesn't want the spring admit. That would be tough, especially for a shy kid.

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OP here. I really don’t want this to get into a rankings debate. We’re pretty aware of the rankings or relative perceptions of the 3 schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does he ultimately want to live? I have twins and one would consider living in the south, attended a sleepaway camp that was in nc but very southern for years, etc. His twin has zero interest in every living in the south. I think this matters bc ultimately if your dc would love to be in dc or ny them SC wouldn’t be as great an option. If he’s drawn to the south and wants to settle there then this is a no-brainer. I think he should look at where his alumni network will be strongest and where he’ll have the most college friends and connections.

This is dumb and not true anymore. Everyone is so connected now that you can go to school anywhere and settle down/find a job/internship anywhere these days. I went to college in Chicago and of all my former classmates, I can think of 3 who actually still live in Chicago. Almost everyone (including me) has moved on--living all around the world. Where you go to college does not determine or even necessarily factor in to where you one day will live.

It's not dumb and actually is quite true depending on what you want to do in life. Sorry...but you are at a huge disadvantage trying to get a job in SFO/Bay Area as a new college grad having gone to JMU or the University of South Carolina. Less so with William & Mary as it does have better recognition on the Coast. After your first job, that's a different story.

If you went to University of Chicago, that's different and not relevant. However, it is quite relevant for the actual schools under consideration here.

I don't think this is true at all. I think people vastly overstate the importance of where you went to college or going to college in the same region as where you want to live/work one day. For a big school like South Carolina, there will be strong alumni networks in every major city, not limited to the southeast.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I really don’t want this to get into a rankings debate. We’re pretty aware of the rankings or relative perceptions of the 3 schools.

Hey OP, what is your kid thinking now? Is he leaning South Carolina?

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My college was mainly important for getting a job during the first few years after graduation. Afterwards, my actual experience became far more important.

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Part of the draw of South Carolina is all the Tiktok and Instagram posts making it very desirable and fun to many 18 year olds.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I really don’t want this to get into a rankings debate. We’re pretty aware of the rankings or relative perceptions of the 3 schools.

Who is in a rankings debate? I don't think anyone is debating which school is better bc that's pretty obvious.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I really don’t want this to get into a rankings debate. We’re pretty aware of the rankings or relative perceptions of the 3 schools.

Hey OP, what is your kid thinking now? Is he leaning South Carolina?

OP here. We are trying not to browbeat him into picking a college, but also trying to talk it out with him. He has a big sporting event Saturday, so we are going to let him get through that, and then try and put our heads around it again on Sunday.

Not complicate things, but he’s also on the waitlist at Virginia Tech for Pamplin, and if he got off the waitlist there, he would probably drop all three of these and go to Virginia Tech. 😜. Again, that’s pretty out of our control. We’ve sent an email/letter of continued interest there and that’s about it.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I really don’t want this to get into a rankings debate. We’re pretty aware of the rankings or relative perceptions of the 3 schools.

Hey OP, what is your kid thinking now? Is he leaning South Carolina?

OP here. We are trying not to browbeat him into picking a college, but also trying to talk it out with him. He has a big sporting event Saturday, so we are going to let him get through that, and then try and put our heads around it again on Sunday.

Not complicate things, but he’s also on the waitlist at Virginia Tech for Pamplin, and if he got off the waitlist there, he would probably drop all three of these and go to Virginia Tech. 😜. Again, that’s pretty out of our control. We’ve sent an email/letter of continued interest there and that’s about it.

I'm PP whose DD is doing W&M spring pathway... she is also waitlisted VT and I have no idea what she would do if that were to become an option. Well, we'll all find out eventually!

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Anonymous wrote:Where does he ultimately want to live? I have twins and one would consider living in the south, attended a sleepaway camp that was in nc but very southern for years, etc. His twin has zero interest in every living in the south. I think this matters bc ultimately if your dc would love to be in dc or ny them SC wouldn’t be as great an option. If he’s drawn to the south and wants to settle there then this is a no-brainer. I think he should look at where his alumni network will be strongest and where he’ll have the most college friends and connections.

This is dumb and not true anymore. Everyone is so connected now that you can go to school anywhere and settle down/find a job/internship anywhere these days. I went to college in Chicago and of all my former classmates, I can think of 3 who actually still live in Chicago. Almost everyone (including me) has moved on--living all around the world. Where you go to college does not determine or even necessarily factor in to where you one day will live.

It's not dumb and actually is quite true depending on what you want to do in life. Sorry...but you are at a huge disadvantage trying to get a job in SFO/Bay Area as a new college grad having gone to JMU or the University of South Carolina. Less so with William & Mary as it does have better recognition on the Coast. After your first job, that's a different story.

If you went to University of Chicago, that's different and not relevant. However, it is quite relevant for the actual schools under consideration here.

I don't think this is true at all. I think people vastly overstate the importance of where you went to college or going to college in the same region as where you want to live/work one day. For a big school like South Carolina, there will be strong alumni networks in every major city, not limited to the southeast.

There are alumni of the University of South Carolina in SFO...but you are delusional if you think it is extensive or strong.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does he ultimately want to live? I have twins and one would consider living in the south, attended a sleepaway camp that was in nc but very southern for years, etc. His twin has zero interest in every living in the south. I think this matters bc ultimately if your dc would love to be in dc or ny them SC wouldn’t be as great an option. If he’s drawn to the south and wants to settle there then this is a no-brainer. I think he should look at where his alumni network will be strongest and where he’ll have the most college friends and connections.

This is dumb and not true anymore. Everyone is so connected now that you can go to school anywhere and settle down/find a job/internship anywhere these days. I went to college in Chicago and of all my former classmates, I can think of 3 who actually still live in Chicago. Almost everyone (including me) has moved on--living all around the world. Where you go to college does not determine or even necessarily factor in to where you one day will live.

It's not dumb and actually is quite true depending on what you want to do in life. Sorry...but you are at a huge disadvantage trying to get a job in SFO/Bay Area as a new college grad having gone to JMU or the University of South Carolina. Less so with William & Mary as it does have better recognition on the Coast. After your first job, that's a different story.

If you went to University of Chicago, that's different and not relevant. However, it is quite relevant for the actual schools under consideration here.

I don't think this is true at all. I think people vastly overstate the importance of where you went to college or going to college in the same region as where you want to live/work one day. For a big school like South Carolina, there will be strong alumni networks in every major city, not limited to the southeast.

There are alumni of the University of South Carolina in SFO...but you are delusional if you think it is extensive or strong.

And that matters why? Are you trying to say that in some imaginary scenario where OP's kid goes to University of South Carolina and then one day wants to work in San Francisco it'll be tough for him? I don't agree with that. I think if you are a strong student and hard worker/bright kid, you will be successful no matter where you end up, regardless of alumni network, the value of which I believe is very overstated here on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does he ultimately want to live? I have twins and one would consider living in the south, attended a sleepaway camp that was in nc but very southern for years, etc. His twin has zero interest in every living in the south. I think this matters bc ultimately if your dc would love to be in dc or ny them SC wouldn’t be as great an option. If he’s drawn to the south and wants to settle there then this is a no-brainer. I think he should look at where his alumni network will be strongest and where he’ll have the most college friends and connections.

This is dumb and not true anymore. Everyone is so connected now that you can go to school anywhere and settle down/find a job/internship anywhere these days. I went to college in Chicago and of all my former classmates, I can think of 3 who actually still live in Chicago. Almost everyone (including me) has moved on--living all around the world. Where you go to college does not determine or even necessarily factor in to where you one day will live.

It's not dumb and actually is quite true depending on what you want to do in life. Sorry...but you are at a huge disadvantage trying to get a job in SFO/Bay Area as a new college grad having gone to JMU or the University of South Carolina. Less so with William & Mary as it does have better recognition on the Coast. After your first job, that's a different story.

If you went to University of Chicago, that's different and not relevant. However, it is quite relevant for the actual schools under consideration here.

I don't think this is true at all. I think people vastly overstate the importance of where you went to college or going to college in the same region as where you want to live/work one day. For a big school like South Carolina, there will be strong alumni networks in every major city, not limited to the southeast.

There are alumni of the University of South Carolina in SFO...but you are delusional if you think it is extensive or strong.

And that matters why? Are you trying to say that in some imaginary scenario where OP's kid goes to University of South Carolina and then one day wants to work in San Francisco it'll be tough for him? I don't agree with that. I think if you are a strong student and hard worker/bright kid, you will be successful no matter where you end up, regardless of alumni network, the value of which I believe is very overstated here on DCUM.

You can incorrectly think that all you want. It's not even about an alumni network vs. being physically present where opportunities exist. There is a reason San Jose State University and Santa Clara and UC Santa Cruz show good outcomes for students...because they are physically in Silicon Valley and SFO and the vast majority of their grads end up working in the area. If you want to get school-year internships with start-ups or VC funds, you need to be physically where most of the opportunities reside. Stanford and Berkeley of course also do exceptionally well but have a national reach to boot.

Also, this discussion is first jobs out of college vs. deciding at 30 you want to make the move (and have relevant experience at that time).

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Anonymous wrote:Where does he ultimately want to live? I have twins and one would consider living in the south, attended a sleepaway camp that was in nc but very southern for years, etc. His twin has zero interest in every living in the south. I think this matters bc ultimately if your dc would love to be in dc or ny them SC wouldn’t be as great an option. If he’s drawn to the south and wants to settle there then this is a no-brainer. I think he should look at where his alumni network will be strongest and where he’ll have the most college friends and connections.

This is dumb and not true anymore. Everyone is so connected now that you can go to school anywhere and settle down/find a job/internship anywhere these days. I went to college in Chicago and of all my former classmates, I can think of 3 who actually still live in Chicago. Almost everyone (including me) has moved on--living all around the world. Where you go to college does not determine or even necessarily factor in to where you one day will live.

It's not dumb and actually is quite true depending on what you want to do in life. Sorry...but you are at a huge disadvantage trying to get a job in SFO/Bay Area as a new college grad having gone to JMU or the University of South Carolina. Less so with William & Mary as it does have better recognition on the Coast. After your first job, that's a different story.

If you went to University of Chicago, that's different and not relevant. However, it is quite relevant for the actual schools under consideration here.

I don't think this is true at all. I think people vastly overstate the importance of where you went to college or going to college in the same region as where you want to live/work one day. For a big school like South Carolina, there will be strong alumni networks in every major city, not limited to the southeast.

There are alumni of the University of South Carolina in SFO...but you are delusional if you think it is extensive or strong.

And that matters why? Are you trying to say that in some imaginary scenario where OP's kid goes to University of South Carolina and then one day wants to work in San Francisco it'll be tough for him? I don't agree with that. I think if you are a strong student and hard worker/bright kid, you will be successful no matter where you end up, regardless of alumni network, the value of which I believe is very overstated here on DCUM.

You can incorrectly think that all you want. It's not even about an alumni network vs. being physically present where opportunities exist. There is a reason San Jose State University and Santa Clara and UC Santa Cruz show good outcomes for students...because they are physically in Silicon Valley and SFO and the vast majority of their grads end up working in the area. If you want to get school-year internships with start-ups or VC funds, you need to be physically where most of the opportunities reside. Stanford and Berkeley of course also do exceptionally well but have a national reach to boot.

Also, this discussion is first jobs out of college vs. deciding at 30 you want to make the move (and have relevant experience at that time).

Why are you stuck on SF in this debate? Who said anything about SF? And why would this be a consideration for OP's kid? You seem crazy.