DC can’t decide

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Anonymous wrote:OP, sometimes it is all about the money.

If you look at the WSJ analysis of grads in different careers...W&M does very well on 6 of the 9 lists, JMU shows up on two of the lists and South Carolina never makes the cut on any of the lists.

https://www.wsj.com/news/collection/college-pay-80428504

Rankings and lists don't matter if a kid is unhappy because the school is the wrong fit. It's really not all about the money.

+1. I can see the appeal of U of SC for sure. In fact, I'd probably pick it myself if I was in OP's kid's position. Not because W&M isn't a more prestigious/higher ranked institution...everyone knows it is. But that's not the only consideration.

I can’t. Like the vast majority of people, I care about outcomes. So does my kid.

I don’t see any reason at all to pick South Carolina over JMU or W&M if the plan is business. If the business program was so good, it would show up on one of these lists for salaries for grads.

Have you ever been to UofSC? Their business facility and presentation were top notch at an open house for admitted students.

Great…so why don’t they show up on the WSJ lists of best paying public universities?

Who cares about the facility and presentation if it doesn’t get results.

JMU is on a bunch of the lists…W&M most of the lists.

You can view UofSC’s business outcomes on their website, they’re not bad at all.

Again, who cares. A bona fide 3rd party in the WSJ shows JMU and W&M are better.

“Not bad” isn’t a ringing endorsement.

A list designed to sell papers is irrelevant.

By listing salaries of graduates? Probably the most relevant lists there are.

Yet you refuse to consider salary data on the UofSC website?

Ok…I looked. South Carolina median finance grad is $73k vs $125k at W&M.

That’s actually a massive diiference. Didn’t think the answer would be so obvious.

Where are the students working? W&M I suspect will send many to the DC area which is a much HCOL than anywhere in SC. Those numbers mean nothing until you know that data point.
It's just like people show NEU and other Boston schools with really high starting salaries. That is too be expected as most kids stay in Boston which is a VHCOL area. The kids are not actually making more than other schools, it's just where they are located

I just posted this a few pages ago about COL and ppl (prob just this one anti-SC poster) jumped down my throat about it. But it makes perfect sense and likely explains the discrepancy in salaries.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t pay more for U of SC than JMU.

Why not if you have the $$ and kid wants USC?

Also, South Carolina has more name recognition in than JMU. No one outside DMV area knows about JMU.

Really? I guess I should let all my DC's OOS friends know this.

Go to the west coast or Midwest or NE. See if more ppl have heard of South Carolina or JMU.

What a stupid argument. Of course *everyone* has heard of University of Whatever State. I’ve certainly heard of the University of New Mexico, but I couldn’t tell you the first thing about it…

The point is no one has heard of JMU if they don’t live in the mid-Atlantic.

I would say this is increasingly less true about JMU, that people don’t know it outside this area. It is getting better and better academically, it has been awarded an R2 research designation, and with its football team being so strong and being on ESPN College Game day, more and more people know about it nationally. Plus it is a relative bargain for OOS.

It might be “increasingly true,” as in it went from 1% national awareness to 1.3% national awareness.

+1 UofSC is in a different stratosphere when it comes to sports and sport coverage. R1 is also much more prestigious in academia than R2.

Oh my.
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The media reach of being in a top conference is a major plus for SC. People know who Georgia and Alabama play. Not true for the lower conferences.

Psst: no one really cares.
DP

27 million might disagree: https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/

I doubt many of those people are on DCUM...just saying

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The PP is obsessed with sports conferences and rankings. My eyes glaze over.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t pay more for U of SC than JMU.

Why not if you have the $$ and kid wants USC?

Also, South Carolina has more name recognition in than JMU. No one outside DMV area knows about JMU.

Really? I guess I should let all my DC's OOS friends know this.

Go to the west coast or Midwest or NE. See if more ppl have heard of South Carolina or JMU.

What a stupid argument. Of course *everyone* has heard of University of Whatever State. I’ve certainly heard of the University of New Mexico, but I couldn’t tell you the first thing about it…

The point is no one has heard of JMU if they don’t live in the mid-Atlantic.

I would say this is increasingly less true about JMU, that people don’t know it outside this area. It is getting better and better academically, it has been awarded an R2 research designation, and with its football team being so strong and being on ESPN College Game day, more and more people know about it nationally. Plus it is a relative bargain for OOS.

It might be “increasingly true,” as in it went from 1% national awareness to 1.3% national awareness.

+1 UofSC is in a different stratosphere when it comes to sports and sport coverage. R1 is also much more prestigious in academia than R2.

Oh my.
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The media reach of being in a top conference is a major plus for SC. People know who Georgia and Alabama play. Not true for the lower conferences.

Psst: no one really cares.
DP

27 million might disagree: https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/

I doubt many of those people are on DCUM...just saying

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The PP is obsessed with sports conferences and rankings. My eyes glaze over.

A lot of kids go to "ok" colleges because of sports. Heck, even the top academic SLACs have robust D3 sports programs with supportive alumni.


Americans love their sports.