Boston, NYC, DC - Best place to raise kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're not white, Boston must be removed from this list.

If you are white, but support diverse communities, Boston loses a lot of points. I wouldn’t pick Boston mostly because I wouldn’t want to raise kids in a place with such thinly veiled racism.

So then between DC and NY I think it's just your preferences and personality. I pick close in suburbs of DC because its the easiest to navigate, decent commute to the city and also large houses with yards. Good public schools but also private options nearby. Lots of families. I also prefer government and politics gossip to entertainment and beauty gossip.

Someone been watching movies from the 1970’s or 1990’s.

Do you know Boston history? Have you lived there?

How are the DC high schools with their 90% minority population any different than Boston’s high schools that are 85% minority?

DC has more violent crime than any other state. 812 per 100,000 people.
Massachusetts had 322 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Boston was listed as 2nd safest city in the country. DC on the other hand has seen crime increased quite a bit with a 36% increase in homicides.

DC and Boston are similar when it comes to size, income, education and population. Boston and all of Massachusetts is safe from groups trying to crush people’s civil rights. It’s virtually 100% democrat and right to choose is safe her.

You ned to be current on this “thinly veiled” racism claim and how it’s different from anywhere else.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/

Im the PP here. I've had 2 people tell me that Boston is the only place they have ever been called the N word to their face. And both were within the last 10 years.

I have never lived there but have spent a lot of time for work. If you pay attention you will notice how white centric the entire city is. And how uncomfortable people who arent white are made to feel. I was there for work last month. A black colleague told me he wasnt willing to eat at a restaurant alone because he couldn't get any service. He just got ignored.

If youre used to a place like DC with lots of culture and ethnicities, Boston is very different in the wrong way imo. Of course there are lots of other places like this in America, Boston isnt the only one, but on this list of DC, NYC, Boston it stands out for being the most racist. And I wouldn't raise my family there for that reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're not white, Boston must be removed from this list.

If you are white, but support diverse communities, Boston loses a lot of points. I wouldn’t pick Boston mostly because I wouldn’t want to raise kids in a place with such thinly veiled racism.

So then between DC and NY I think it's just your preferences and personality. I pick close in suburbs of DC because its the easiest to navigate, decent commute to the city and also large houses with yards. Good public schools but also private options nearby. Lots of families. I also prefer government and politics gossip to entertainment and beauty gossip.

Someone been watching movies from the 1970’s or 1990’s.

Do you know Boston history? Have you lived there?

How are the DC high schools with their 90% minority population any different than Boston’s high schools that are 85% minority?

DC has more violent crime than any other state. 812 per 100,000 people.
Massachusetts had 322 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Boston was listed as 2nd safest city in the country. DC on the other hand has seen crime increased quite a bit with a 36% increase in homicides.

DC and Boston are similar when it comes to size, income, education and population. Boston and all of Massachusetts is safe from groups trying to crush people’s civil rights. It’s virtually 100% democrat and right to choose is safe her.

You ned to be current on this “thinly veiled” racism claim and how it’s different from anywhere else.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/

Im the PP here. I've had 2 people tell me that Boston is the only place they have ever been called the N word to their face. And both were within the last 10 years.

I have never lived there but have spent a lot of time for work. If you pay attention you will notice how white centric the entire city is. And how uncomfortable people who arent white are made to feel. I was there for work last month. A black colleague told me he wasnt willing to eat at a restaurant alone because he couldn't get any service. He just got ignored.

If youre used to a place like DC with lots of culture and ethnicities, Boston is very different in the wrong way imo. Of course there are lots of other places like this in America, Boston isnt the only one, but on this list of DC, NYC, Boston it stands out for being the most racist. And I wouldn't raise my family there for that reason.

My sister in law has a similar story but is Asian and it occured in NYC. Is that not racist to you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're not white, Boston must be removed from this list.

If you are white, but support diverse communities, Boston loses a lot of points. I wouldn’t pick Boston mostly because I wouldn’t want to raise kids in a place with such thinly veiled racism.

So then between DC and NY I think it's just your preferences and personality. I pick close in suburbs of DC because its the easiest to navigate, decent commute to the city and also large houses with yards. Good public schools but also private options nearby. Lots of families. I also prefer government and politics gossip to entertainment and beauty gossip.

Someone been watching movies from the 1970’s or 1990’s.

Do you know Boston history? Have you lived there?

How are the DC high schools with their 90% minority population any different than Boston’s high schools that are 85% minority?

DC has more violent crime than any other state. 812 per 100,000 people.
Massachusetts had 322 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Boston was listed as 2nd safest city in the country. DC on the other hand has seen crime increased quite a bit with a 36% increase in homicides.

DC and Boston are similar when it comes to size, income, education and population. Boston and all of Massachusetts is safe from groups trying to crush people’s civil rights. It’s virtually 100% democrat and right to choose is safe her.

You ned to be current on this “thinly veiled” racism claim and how it’s different from anywhere else.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/

Im the PP here. I've had 2 people tell me that Boston is the only place they have ever been called the N word to their face. And both were within the last 10 years.

I have never lived there but have spent a lot of time for work. If you pay attention you will notice how white centric the entire city is. And how uncomfortable people who arent white are made to feel. I was there for work last month. A black colleague told me he wasnt willing to eat at a restaurant alone because he couldn't get any service. He just got ignored.

If youre used to a place like DC with lots of culture and ethnicities, Boston is very different in the wrong way imo. Of course there are lots of other places like this in America, Boston isnt the only one, but on this list of DC, NYC, Boston it stands out for being the most racist. And I wouldn't raise my family there for that reason.

My sister in law has a similar story but is Asian and it occured in NYC. Is that not racist to you?

Asian American here. I have heard there is a lot of racism against Asians in NYC since Covid. I grew up in NY and most racism I have gotten was from blacks and Hispanics, not whites.

[Anonymous]

Cold grey weather gets to me, so I’d stick with dc. Manhattan would be cool but too hard to find down to earth people. Long Island is hard no people are too aggressive. Westchester is too passive aggressive. Love the culture in Boston but the weather is too rough. I’d live in Bethesda if I could afford it but I can’t so I’m near annapolis/Baltimore which has its own perks, nice to be near the water.

[Anonymous]

If you’re going to live in the suburbs no matter what, I’d pick the close-in DC burbs. I’m raising 3 kids in a walkable part of Arlington where we can have a SFH, but also walk to metro, parks, restaurants, etc. As my kids get older they’ll have freedom to get around without a car, we can easily access city amenities, and it’s a dense area full of kids, but also with all the perks of living in the suburbs (like good schools despite what some posters claim, county services, etc.)

If you want to raise kids *in* the city, I would pick NYC hands down. I think it would be such a cool place to grow up with so much going on if you have the money to make it feasible. But I am not sure that I’d want to pay the high cost just to live outside of NYC.

Also, it’s so easy to take Amtrak from DC do NYC for a long weekend. We take the kids up there for short getaways on occasion (or DH and I have gone just ourselves). And whenever we get back to Union Station from NYC we always look around relieved to see the sky again. DC’s low buildings make it feel like a more manageable city to me, but that is just a personal take.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d go for Boston but I love the access to the mountains and the ocean that Boston provides.

Same. My sister and her family live on the north shore and I am envious of them being close to the water and the east of northern New England.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're not white, Boston must be removed from this list.

If you are white, but support diverse communities, Boston loses a lot of points. I wouldn’t pick Boston mostly because I wouldn’t want to raise kids in a place with such thinly veiled racism.

So then between DC and NY I think it's just your preferences and personality. I pick close in suburbs of DC because its the easiest to navigate, decent commute to the city and also large houses with yards. Good public schools but also private options nearby. Lots of families. I also prefer government and politics gossip to entertainment and beauty gossip.

Someone been watching movies from the 1970’s or 1990’s.

Do you know Boston history? Have you lived there?

How are the DC high schools with their 90% minority population any different than Boston’s high schools that are 85% minority?

DC has more violent crime than any other state. 812 per 100,000 people.
Massachusetts had 322 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Boston was listed as 2nd safest city in the country. DC on the other hand has seen crime increased quite a bit with a 36% increase in homicides.

DC and Boston are similar when it comes to size, income, education and population. Boston and all of Massachusetts is safe from groups trying to crush people’s civil rights. It’s virtually 100% democrat and right to choose is safe her.

You ned to be current on this “thinly veiled” racism claim and how it’s different from anywhere else.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/

Im the PP here. I've had 2 people tell me that Boston is the only place they have ever been called the N word to their face. And both were within the last 10 years.

I have never lived there but have spent a lot of time for work. If you pay attention you will notice how white centric the entire city is. And how uncomfortable people who arent white are made to feel. I was there for work last month. A black colleague told me he wasnt willing to eat at a restaurant alone because he couldn't get any service. He just got ignored.

If youre used to a place like DC with lots of culture and ethnicities, Boston is very different in the wrong way imo. Of course there are lots of other places like this in America, Boston isnt the only one, but on this list of DC, NYC, Boston it stands out for being the most racist. And I wouldn't raise my family there for that reason.

Unfortunately, as a POC, I can tell you about racist incidents I’ve experienced in DC too. No where is perfect and all three cities have their pluses and minuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Boston and surround suburbs are quaint, but unless you have lived there a long time communities can be insular. It is hard to “break into” groups and takes a lot of effort.
It’s easier if you have elementary school kids and there are PTA activities. Speaking from direct experience.

I can’t speak to NYC.

The DC area is more welcoming, experienced with new comers and there was a specific interest in our neighborhood & school to integrate and welcome new families.

That said, each school, community and neighborhood is different. It also depends on how active the parents are in creating/building and sustaining their own micro communities.

Boston is FULL of highly educated immigrants, so much diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're not white, Boston must be removed from this list.

If you are white, but support diverse communities, Boston loses a lot of points. I wouldn’t pick Boston mostly because I wouldn’t want to raise kids in a place with such thinly veiled racism.

So then between DC and NY I think it's just your preferences and personality. I pick close in suburbs of DC because its the easiest to navigate, decent commute to the city and also large houses with yards. Good public schools but also private options nearby. Lots of families. I also prefer government and politics gossip to entertainment and beauty gossip.

Someone been watching movies from the 1970’s or 1990’s.

Do you know Boston history? Have you lived there?

How are the DC high schools with their 90% minority population any different than Boston’s high schools that are 85% minority?

DC has more violent crime than any other state. 812 per 100,000 people.
Massachusetts had 322 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Boston was listed as 2nd safest city in the country. DC on the other hand has seen crime increased quite a bit with a 36% increase in homicides.

DC and Boston are similar when it comes to size, income, education and population. Boston and all of Massachusetts is safe from groups trying to crush people’s civil rights. It’s virtually 100% democrat and right to choose is safe her.

You ned to be current on this “thinly veiled” racism claim and how it’s different from anywhere else.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/

NP. I currently live in a suburb of Boston after moving from a different, more diverse, part of the country and some people here definitely come across as a bit racist because the area is so homogenous and people aren't used to interacting with people of other races.

I live in Lexington now, our first home was in Milton, both with plenty of diversity.

Per 2020 Census Data, Lexington is 1.5% Black, 2.3% Hispanic, and 25.4% Asian. Look, I get that you consider that "plenty of diversity" compared to other parts of Massachusetts, but compared to other parts of the country it's really not, which is my point.

Take a look at these statistics for Whitman high school in Bethesda, then go take a walk around Bethesda Row and tell me that is different from Lexington. I'll wait.

The equivalent of Bethesda in MA is Brookline or Newton. Go check them out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're not white, Boston must be removed from this list.

If you are white, but support diverse communities, Boston loses a lot of points. I wouldn’t pick Boston mostly because I wouldn’t want to raise kids in a place with such thinly veiled racism.

So then between DC and NY I think it's just your preferences and personality. I pick close in suburbs of DC because its the easiest to navigate, decent commute to the city and also large houses with yards. Good public schools but also private options nearby. Lots of families. I also prefer government and politics gossip to entertainment and beauty gossip.

Someone been watching movies from the 1970’s or 1990’s.

Do you know Boston history? Have you lived there?

How are the DC high schools with their 90% minority population any different than Boston’s high schools that are 85% minority?

DC has more violent crime than any other state. 812 per 100,000 people.
Massachusetts had 322 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Boston was listed as 2nd safest city in the country. DC on the other hand has seen crime increased quite a bit with a 36% increase in homicides.

DC and Boston are similar when it comes to size, income, education and population. Boston and all of Massachusetts is safe from groups trying to crush people’s civil rights. It’s virtually 100% democrat and right to choose is safe her.

You ned to be current on this “thinly veiled” racism claim and how it’s different from anywhere else.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/

NP. I currently live in a suburb of Boston after moving from a different, more diverse, part of the country and some people here definitely come across as a bit racist because the area is so homogenous and people aren't used to interacting with people of other races.

I live in Lexington now, our first home was in Milton, both with plenty of diversity.

Per 2020 Census Data, Lexington is 1.5% Black, 2.3% Hispanic, and 25.4% Asian. Look, I get that you consider that "plenty of diversity" compared to other parts of Massachusetts, but compared to other parts of the country it's really not, which is my point.

Take a look at the statistics for Whitman high school in Bethesda, then go take a walk around Bethesda Row and tell me that is different from Lexington. I'll wait.

The equivalent of Bethesda in MA is Brookline or Newton. Go check them out.

Lexington is also the rough equivalent of Bethesda, but ok, here you go:

Whitman:
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

Black: Less than or equal to 5%
Asian: ~15%
Hispanic: ~10%
White: ~60%

Newton North HS:

https://profiles.doe.mass.edu/profiles/student.aspx?orgcode=02070505&orgtypecode=6

Black: ~5%
Asian: ~15%
Hispanic: ~11%
White: ~60%

Brookline HS:

Black: 7.4% African American
Asian: 16.0%
Hispanic: 12.9%
White: 53.3% White

Lexington HS:

Black: 4%
Asian: ~45%
Hispanic: ~4%
White: ~38%

Your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're not white, Boston must be removed from this list.

If you are white, but support diverse communities, Boston loses a lot of points. I wouldn’t pick Boston mostly because I wouldn’t want to raise kids in a place with such thinly veiled racism.

So then between DC and NY I think it's just your preferences and personality. I pick close in suburbs of DC because its the easiest to navigate, decent commute to the city and also large houses with yards. Good public schools but also private options nearby. Lots of families. I also prefer government and politics gossip to entertainment and beauty gossip.

Someone been watching movies from the 1970’s or 1990’s.

Do you know Boston history? Have you lived there?

How are the DC high schools with their 90% minority population any different than Boston’s high schools that are 85% minority?

DC has more violent crime than any other state. 812 per 100,000 people.
Massachusetts had 322 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Boston was listed as 2nd safest city in the country. DC on the other hand has seen crime increased quite a bit with a 36% increase in homicides.

DC and Boston are similar when it comes to size, income, education and population. Boston and all of Massachusetts is safe from groups trying to crush people’s civil rights. It’s virtually 100% democrat and right to choose is safe her.

You ned to be current on this “thinly veiled” racism claim and how it’s different from anywhere else.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/

NP. I currently live in a suburb of Boston after moving from a different, more diverse, part of the country and some people here definitely come across as a bit racist because the area is so homogenous and people aren't used to interacting with people of other races.

I live in Lexington now, our first home was in Milton, both with plenty of diversity.

Per 2020 Census Data, Lexington is 1.5% Black, 2.3% Hispanic, and 25.4% Asian. Look, I get that you consider that "plenty of diversity" compared to other parts of Massachusetts, but compared to other parts of the country it's really not, which is my point.

Take a look at the statistics for Whitman high school in Bethesda, then go take a walk around Bethesda Row and tell me that is different from Lexington. I'll wait.

The equivalent of Bethesda in MA is Brookline or Newton. Go check them out.

Lexington is also the rough equivalent of Bethesda, but ok, here you go:

Whitman:
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

Black: Less than or equal to 5%
Asian: ~15%
Hispanic: ~10%
White: ~60%

Newton North HS:

https://profiles.doe.mass.edu/profiles/student.aspx?orgcode=02070505&orgtypecode=6

Black: ~5%
Asian: ~15%
Hispanic: ~11%
White: ~60%

Brookline HS:

Black: 7.4% African American
Asian: 16.0%
Hispanic: 12.9%
White: 53.3% White

Lexington HS:

Black: 4%
Asian: ~45%
Hispanic: ~4%
White: ~38%

Your point?

I don’t remember Boston being so Asian but then again, I went to school there over 20 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boston and surround suburbs are quaint, but unless you have lived there a long time communities can be insular. It is hard to “break into” groups and takes a lot of effort.
It’s easier if you have elementary school kids and there are PTA activities. Speaking from direct experience.

I can’t speak to NYC.

The DC area is more welcoming, experienced with new comers and there was a specific interest in our neighborhood & school to integrate and welcome new families.

That said, each school, community and neighborhood is different. It also depends on how active the parents are in creating/building and sustaining their own micro communities.

Boston is FULL of highly educated immigrants, so much diversity.

Not blacks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boston and surround suburbs are quaint, but unless you have lived there a long time communities can be insular. It is hard to “break into” groups and takes a lot of effort.
It’s easier if you have elementary school kids and there are PTA activities. Speaking from direct experience.

I can’t speak to NYC.

The DC area is more welcoming, experienced with new comers and there was a specific interest in our neighborhood & school to integrate and welcome new families.

That said, each school, community and neighborhood is different. It also depends on how active the parents are in creating/building and sustaining their own micro communities.

Boston is FULL of highly educated immigrants, so much diversity.

Not blacks

DC has a well educated black population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boston and surround suburbs are quaint, but unless you have lived there a long time communities can be insular. It is hard to “break into” groups and takes a lot of effort.
It’s easier if you have elementary school kids and there are PTA activities. Speaking from direct experience.

I can’t speak to NYC.

The DC area is more welcoming, experienced with new comers and there was a specific interest in our neighborhood & school to integrate and welcome new families.

That said, each school, community and neighborhood is different. It also depends on how active the parents are in creating/building and sustaining their own micro communities.

Boston is FULL of highly educated immigrants, so much diversity.

Not blacks

Black isn’t the only type of diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're not white, Boston must be removed from this list.

If you are white, but support diverse communities, Boston loses a lot of points. I wouldn’t pick Boston mostly because I wouldn’t want to raise kids in a place with such thinly veiled racism.

So then between DC and NY I think it's just your preferences and personality. I pick close in suburbs of DC because its the easiest to navigate, decent commute to the city and also large houses with yards. Good public schools but also private options nearby. Lots of families. I also prefer government and politics gossip to entertainment and beauty gossip.

Someone been watching movies from the 1970’s or 1990’s.

Do you know Boston history? Have you lived there?

How are the DC high schools with their 90% minority population any different than Boston’s high schools that are 85% minority?

DC has more violent crime than any other state. 812 per 100,000 people.
Massachusetts had 322 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Boston was listed as 2nd safest city in the country. DC on the other hand has seen crime increased quite a bit with a 36% increase in homicides.

DC and Boston are similar when it comes to size, income, education and population. Boston and all of Massachusetts is safe from groups trying to crush people’s civil rights. It’s virtually 100% democrat and right to choose is safe her.

You ned to be current on this “thinly veiled” racism claim and how it’s different from anywhere else.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/

NP. I currently live in a suburb of Boston after moving from a different, more diverse, part of the country and some people here definitely come across as a bit racist because the area is so homogenous and people aren't used to interacting with people of other races.

I live in Lexington now, our first home was in Milton, both with plenty of diversity.

Per 2020 Census Data, Lexington is 1.5% Black, 2.3% Hispanic, and 25.4% Asian. Look, I get that you consider that "plenty of diversity" compared to other parts of Massachusetts, but compared to other parts of the country it's really not, which is my point.

If only Massachusetts had gotten on the slavery bandwagon, just think how much more diverse a place it would be today!