Boston, NYC, DC - Best place to raise kids?

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Anonymous wrote:If you're not white, Boston must be removed from this list.

If you are white, but support diverse communities, Boston loses a lot of points. I wouldn’t pick Boston mostly because I wouldn’t want to raise kids in a place with such thinly veiled racism.

So then between DC and NY I think it's just your preferences and personality. I pick close in suburbs of DC because its the easiest to navigate, decent commute to the city and also large houses with yards. Good public schools but also private options nearby. Lots of families. I also prefer government and politics gossip to entertainment and beauty gossip.

Someone been watching movies from the 1970’s or 1990’s.

Do you know Boston history? Have you lived there?

How are the DC high schools with their 90% minority population any different than Boston’s high schools that are 85% minority?

DC has more violent crime than any other state. 812 per 100,000 people.
Massachusetts had 322 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Boston was listed as 2nd safest city in the country. DC on the other hand has seen crime increased quite a bit with a 36% increase in homicides.

DC and Boston are similar when it comes to size, income, education and population. Boston and all of Massachusetts is safe from groups trying to crush people’s civil rights. It’s virtually 100% democrat and right to choose is safe her.

You ned to be current on this “thinly veiled” racism claim and how it’s different from anywhere else.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/

NP. I currently live in a suburb of Boston after moving from a different, more diverse, part of the country and some people here definitely come across as a bit racist because the area is so homogenous and people aren't used to interacting with people of other races.

I live in Lexington now, our first home was in Milton, both with plenty of diversity.

Per 2020 Census Data, Lexington is 1.5% Black, 2.3% Hispanic, and 25.4% Asian. Look, I get that you consider that "plenty of diversity" compared to other parts of Massachusetts, but compared to other parts of the country it's really not, which is my point.

Take a look at these statistics for Whitman high school in Bethesda, then go take a walk around Bethesda Row and tell me that is different from Lexington. I'll wait.

DP here. I went to college and grad school in Boston. There are obviously less black people in Boston than DC. Boston is not the place to go for diversity.

Think for a minute about why that may be true.

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Anonymous wrote:Boston and surround suburbs are quaint, but unless you have lived there a long time communities can be insular. It is hard to “break into” groups and takes a lot of effort.
It’s easier if you have elementary school kids and there are PTA activities. Speaking from direct experience.

I can’t speak to NYC.

The DC area is more welcoming, experienced with new comers and there was a specific interest in our neighborhood & school to integrate and welcome new families.

That said, each school, community and neighborhood is different. It also depends on how active the parents are in creating/building and sustaining their own micro communities.

Boston is FULL of highly educated immigrants, so much diversity.

Not blacks

If you are looking for an area with over representation of African Americans you should state so. That’s not diversity.

Boston is as diverse as NYC, one of the most diverse cities in the world.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boston and surround suburbs are quaint, but unless you have lived there a long time communities can be insular. It is hard to “break into” groups and takes a lot of effort.
It’s easier if you have elementary school kids and there are PTA activities. Speaking from direct experience.

I can’t speak to NYC.

The DC area is more welcoming, experienced with new comers and there was a specific interest in our neighborhood & school to integrate and welcome new families.

That said, each school, community and neighborhood is different. It also depends on how active the parents are in creating/building and sustaining their own micro communities.

Boston is FULL of highly educated immigrants, so much diversity.

Not blacks

If you are looking for an area with over representation of African Americans you should state so. That’s not diversity.

Boston is as diverse as NYC, one of the most diverse cities in the world.

I have lived in Philadelphia, NYC, Boston and now DC. Boston is not as diverse as NYC.

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None. I would raise them in a coastal town where they get fresh air, unprocessed food, safety to bike everywhere and attend private school with low stress and love of learning.

[Anonymous]

If I must raise them in one of these cities then whichever is closer to both sides of the family so kids aren't living nuclear lives influenced by daycare workers, nannies, class fellows and internet, they benefit more from guidance of grandparents, aunts and uncles and friendships of cousins and family friends.

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Anonymous wrote:None. I would raise them in a coastal town where they get fresh air, unprocessed food, safety to bike everywhere and attend private school with low stress and love of learning.

That wasn’t the question jaanice

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boston and surround suburbs are quaint, but unless you have lived there a long time communities can be insular. It is hard to “break into” groups and takes a lot of effort.
It’s easier if you have elementary school kids and there are PTA activities. Speaking from direct experience.

I can’t speak to NYC.

The DC area is more welcoming, experienced with new comers and there was a specific interest in our neighborhood & school to integrate and welcome new families.

That said, each school, community and neighborhood is different. It also depends on how active the parents are in creating/building and sustaining their own micro communities.

Boston is FULL of highly educated immigrants, so much diversity.

Not blacks

If you are looking for an area with over representation of African Americans you should state so. That’s not diversity.

Boston is as diverse as NYC, one of the most diverse cities in the world.

I have lived in Philadelphia, NYC, Boston and now DC. Boston is not as diverse as NYC.

It's not vastly different diversity-wise.

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/cities/compare/2507000.3651000

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Anonymous wrote:Very marginally DC, but really, I'd rather not pick any of them.

They are all the ultimate thinking-inside-the-box options. A pox on all their suburbs!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boston and surround suburbs are quaint, but unless you have lived there a long time communities can be insular. It is hard to “break into” groups and takes a lot of effort.
It’s easier if you have elementary school kids and there are PTA activities. Speaking from direct experience.

I can’t speak to NYC.

The DC area is more welcoming, experienced with new comers and there was a specific interest in our neighborhood & school to integrate and welcome new families.

That said, each school, community and neighborhood is different. It also depends on how active the parents are in creating/building and sustaining their own micro communities.

Boston is FULL of highly educated immigrants, so much diversity.

Not blacks

If you are looking for an area with over representation of African Americans you should state so. That’s not diversity.

Boston is as diverse as NYC, one of the most diverse cities in the world.

I have lived in Philadelphia, NYC, Boston and now DC. Boston is not as diverse as NYC.

Boston is majority Latino. There are a lot of immigrants from countries in Africa and Asia.

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I don't know why I feel the need to comment again, but I do because those of you listing population statistics are missing the point. Im the original PP who mentioned race, and my point is the city treats people of color poorly. I'm not saying there are less POC by the numbers (although you go just about anywhere and look around and can tell there are, and yes a lack of black people means a lack of diversity. Having double asians and no black people makes the make up of the city less diverse by definition), Im saying non white people are treated differently. The city has a racist vibe throughout. Its not hard to pick up on it if youre paying attention. I wouldn’t raise my white kids there because I dont like that vibe.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boston and surround suburbs are quaint, but unless you have lived there a long time communities can be insular. It is hard to “break into” groups and takes a lot of effort.
It’s easier if you have elementary school kids and there are PTA activities. Speaking from direct experience.

I can’t speak to NYC.

The DC area is more welcoming, experienced with new comers and there was a specific interest in our neighborhood & school to integrate and welcome new families.

That said, each school, community and neighborhood is different. It also depends on how active the parents are in creating/building and sustaining their own micro communities.

Boston is FULL of highly educated immigrants, so much diversity.

Not blacks

If you are looking for an area with over representation of African Americans you should state so. That’s not diversity.

Boston is as diverse as NYC, one of the most diverse cities in the world.

I have lived in Philadelphia, NYC, Boston and now DC. Boston is not as diverse as NYC.

Boston is majority Latino. There are a lot of immigrants from countries in Africa and Asia.

That's not true at all. It's about 20% Latino and 45% non-Hispanic white.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boston and surround suburbs are quaint, but unless you have lived there a long time communities can be insular. It is hard to “break into” groups and takes a lot of effort.
It’s easier if you have elementary school kids and there are PTA activities. Speaking from direct experience.

I can’t speak to NYC.

The DC area is more welcoming, experienced with new comers and there was a specific interest in our neighborhood & school to integrate and welcome new families.

That said, each school, community and neighborhood is different. It also depends on how active the parents are in creating/building and sustaining their own micro communities.

Boston is FULL of highly educated immigrants, so much diversity.

Not blacks

If you are looking for an area with over representation of African Americans you should state so. That’s not diversity.

Boston is as diverse as NYC, one of the most diverse cities in the world.

I have lived in Philadelphia, NYC, Boston and now DC. Boston is not as diverse as NYC.

Boston is majority Latino. There are a lot of immigrants from countries in Africa and Asia.

That's not true at all. It's about 20% Latino and 45% non-Hispanic white.

I was including Chelsea because I always thought it was part of Boston. There is an influx of immigrants from countries in Africa and Asia. And there’s always been a lot of Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Haitians and South Americans.

The population under 35 are more willing to leave their comfort zone where everyone looks like them. My daughter and her 4 best friends in NYC at one time were all dating guys who were born in different countries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're not white, Boston must be removed from this list.

If you are white, but support diverse communities, Boston loses a lot of points. I wouldn’t pick Boston mostly because I wouldn’t want to raise kids in a place with such thinly veiled racism.

So then between DC and NY I think it's just your preferences and personality. I pick close in suburbs of DC because its the easiest to navigate, decent commute to the city and also large houses with yards. Good public schools but also private options nearby. Lots of families. I also prefer government and politics gossip to entertainment and beauty gossip.

Someone been watching movies from the 1970’s or 1990’s.

Do you know Boston history? Have you lived there?

How are the DC high schools with their 90% minority population any different than Boston’s high schools that are 85% minority?

DC has more violent crime than any other state. 812 per 100,000 people.
Massachusetts had 322 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Boston was listed as 2nd safest city in the country. DC on the other hand has seen crime increased quite a bit with a 36% increase in homicides.

DC and Boston are similar when it comes to size, income, education and population. Boston and all of Massachusetts is safe from groups trying to crush people’s civil rights. It’s virtually 100% democrat and right to choose is safe her.

You ned to be current on this “thinly veiled” racism claim and how it’s different from anywhere else.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/

NP. I currently live in a suburb of Boston after moving from a different, more diverse, part of the country and some people here definitely come across as a bit racist because the area is so homogenous and people aren't used to interacting with people of other races.

I live in Lexington now, our first home was in Milton, both with plenty of diversity.

Per 2020 Census Data, Lexington is 1.5% Black, 2.3% Hispanic, and 25.4% Asian. Look, I get that you consider that "plenty of diversity" compared to other parts of Massachusetts, but compared to other parts of the country it's really not, which is my point.

Take a look at the statistics for Whitman high school in Bethesda, then go take a walk around Bethesda Row and tell me that is different from Lexington. I'll wait.

The equivalent of Bethesda in MA is Brookline or Newton. Go check them out.

Lexington is also the rough equivalent of Bethesda, but ok, here you go:

Whitman:
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

Black: Less than or equal to 5%
Asian: ~15%
Hispanic: ~10%
White: ~60%

Newton North HS:

https://profiles.doe.mass.edu/profiles/student.aspx?orgcode=02070505&orgtypecode=6

Black: ~5%
Asian: ~15%
Hispanic: ~11%
White: ~60%

Brookline HS:

Black: 7.4% African American
Asian: 16.0%
Hispanic: 12.9%
White: 53.3% White

Lexington HS:

Black: 4%
Asian: ~45%
Hispanic: ~4%
White: ~38%

Your point?

You know how big Newton is, I hope??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're not white, Boston must be removed from this list.

If you are white, but support diverse communities, Boston loses a lot of points. I wouldn’t pick Boston mostly because I wouldn’t want to raise kids in a place with such thinly veiled racism.

So then between DC and NY I think it's just your preferences and personality. I pick close in suburbs of DC because its the easiest to navigate, decent commute to the city and also large houses with yards. Good public schools but also private options nearby. Lots of families. I also prefer government and politics gossip to entertainment and beauty gossip.

Someone been watching movies from the 1970’s or 1990’s.

Do you know Boston history? Have you lived there?

How are the DC high schools with their 90% minority population any different than Boston’s high schools that are 85% minority?

DC has more violent crime than any other state. 812 per 100,000 people.
Massachusetts had 322 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Boston was listed as 2nd safest city in the country. DC on the other hand has seen crime increased quite a bit with a 36% increase in homicides.

DC and Boston are similar when it comes to size, income, education and population. Boston and all of Massachusetts is safe from groups trying to crush people’s civil rights. It’s virtually 100% democrat and right to choose is safe her.

You ned to be current on this “thinly veiled” racism claim and how it’s different from anywhere else.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/

NP. I currently live in a suburb of Boston after moving from a different, more diverse, part of the country and some people here definitely come across as a bit racist because the area is so homogenous and people aren't used to interacting with people of other races.

I live in Lexington now, our first home was in Milton, both with plenty of diversity.

Per 2020 Census Data, Lexington is 1.5% Black, 2.3% Hispanic, and 25.4% Asian. Look, I get that you consider that "plenty of diversity" compared to other parts of Massachusetts, but compared to other parts of the country it's really not, which is my point.

Asian isn't diverse to you?
Why didn't you pull the Milton statistics?

+1

If only other PP knew what they were comparing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're not white, Boston must be removed from this list.

If you are white, but support diverse communities, Boston loses a lot of points. I wouldn’t pick Boston mostly because I wouldn’t want to raise kids in a place with such thinly veiled racism.

So then between DC and NY I think it's just your preferences and personality. I pick close in suburbs of DC because its the easiest to navigate, decent commute to the city and also large houses with yards. Good public schools but also private options nearby. Lots of families. I also prefer government and politics gossip to entertainment and beauty gossip.

Someone been watching movies from the 1970’s or 1990’s.

Do you know Boston history? Have you lived there?

How are the DC high schools with their 90% minority population any different than Boston’s high schools that are 85% minority?

DC has more violent crime than any other state. 812 per 100,000 people.
Massachusetts had 322 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Boston was listed as 2nd safest city in the country. DC on the other hand has seen crime increased quite a bit with a 36% increase in homicides.

DC and Boston are similar when it comes to size, income, education and population. Boston and all of Massachusetts is safe from groups trying to crush people’s civil rights. It’s virtually 100% democrat and right to choose is safe her.

You ned to be current on this “thinly veiled” racism claim and how it’s different from anywhere else.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/

NP. I currently live in a suburb of Boston after moving from a different, more diverse, part of the country and some people here definitely come across as a bit racist because the area is so homogenous and people aren't used to interacting with people of other races.

I live in Lexington now, our first home was in Milton, both with plenty of diversity.

Per 2020 Census Data, Lexington is 1.5% Black, 2.3% Hispanic, and 25.4% Asian. Look, I get that you consider that "plenty of diversity" compared to other parts of Massachusetts, but compared to other parts of the country it's really not, which is my point.

Take a look at the statistics for Whitman high school in Bethesda, then go take a walk around Bethesda Row and tell me that is different from Lexington. I'll wait.

The equivalent of Bethesda in MA is Brookline or Newton. Go check them out.

Lexington is also the rough equivalent of Bethesda, but ok, here you go:

Whitman:
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

Black: Less than or equal to 5%
Asian: ~15%
Hispanic: ~10%
White: ~60%

Newton North HS:

https://profiles.doe.mass.edu/profiles/student.aspx?orgcode=02070505&orgtypecode=6

Black: ~5%
Asian: ~15%
Hispanic: ~11%
White: ~60%

Brookline HS:

Black: 7.4% African American
Asian: 16.0%
Hispanic: 12.9%
White: 53.3% White

Lexington HS:

Black: 4%
Asian: ~45%
Hispanic: ~4%
White: ~38%

Your point?

You know how big Newton is, I hope??

Yes, I do.

PP's said to check out Newton and Brookline, so I did. And there you are - similar demographics.

Again: And?