It's easy to be on campus without a car. There are UR busses that take kids to shopping areas/movie theaters/etc on weekends. And most things in Rochester are a 10-12 min ride away---Uber is cheap if you have 3-4 people in a car. That being said, my kid loves having a car for their junior and senior years, but it's definately not necessary---most of their friends do NOT have cars. |
| Can’t go wrong with either. if financially feasible I think it just comes down to where your kid can picture himself thriving more. |
Rochester is a very strong STEM/engineering/Premed school. So yeah lots of the international students are China/HK/Taiwan/India exactly what you'd expect. Anyone who thinks it's a SUNY is not that bright. Rochester is a lot like CWrU---great school but filled with kids who wanted to attend elsewhere as their top choices. And "elsewhere" is any number of T25 schools. My kid is there. of their 20+ friend group, literally ALL of them were WL or Spring admit/Fall sophomore admit at 1 or more Ivy/T25 schools. Most had that for 2-3+ schools. Roch wasn't their "first choice", but it was their Top Target school and they didn't win the Reach lottery. It's not a Safety school, like Pitt is for so many. CWRU is exactly the same---filled with T25 "rejects" and both schools joke about it. Smart kids, with drive who simply didn't get into the single digit acceptance rate schools. It's a much better school than rankings/reputation give it. Because yeah, Rochester is NOT where most of them want to remain post graduation. Great place for 4+ years, but not to actually start a career, there are more exciting places. |
Their acceptance rate is 49.1%. It's pretty damn close to the official definition of "safety school" and 50%+ of the applicants are likely using it as a "safety school". But you do you |
it's a safety for many. Whereas Rochester is simply NOT a safety for anyone. Rochester is a tier above Pitt...it's a better school. But if your kid likes Pitt better then that is the "better school for them". But overall, it's not really a debate which is a "better school". That's like saying Harvard and UVA are similar schools. Yes UVA is a great school, but if you compare the two, Harvard is the better school overall and 99% of people would agree |
They may pull in more high achievers. That doesn't change that it's still a safety school for those high achievers. Pulling in more likely has to do with those "high achievers" didn't get into all the reaches they applied to and likely didn't have any true Targets either, so they had not other choices. That or they are giving them merit aid and getting them that way. But that doesn't change the fact that Pitt is a safety school for many students. It's basically a 50% acceptance rate. Their average SAT is 1350/1360, so someone with a 1450+ and 3.9UW+ with multiple APs is using it as a safety. |
Rochester absolutely is a safety for many top kids, assuming they even are interested in applying there. If you are so big on establishing a pecking order relative to Pitt (which is more attractive to a lot of students for a host of reasons), you need to acknowledge that. Also, your analogy is seriously wanting. Nowhere close to 99% of people would agree that Rochester is a better school than Pitt overall, if for no other reason because so many people know nothing about Rochester. The same cannot be said for Harvard. |
| It would be nice if we could have a thread without bashing either school. |
pitt is a great school. But there is no question that Rochester is a "better school" Overall the student body is "better". |