Bethesda Row after the Purple Line Opens?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op isn’t wrong to worry. Ever since Tysons got the metro, we have seen crime go up. I live a mile from Tysons in McLean, so we are acutely aware of the changes . The only difference is Fairfax county police does not coddle criminals like in MoCo, thank god for small mercies.

The pros of rapid transit still outweigh the cons, which may definitely include an increase in crime. Imagine if the DC region built all the freeways planned in the 50s instead of the Metro subway. DC would be a much less attractive city, and it’s hard to say if crime levels would’ve been lower w/o Metro and with all the freeways. Look at Detroit with its spaghetti system of freeways and no mass rapid transit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op isn’t wrong to worry. Ever since Tysons got the metro, we have seen crime go up. I live a mile from Tysons in McLean, so we are acutely aware of the changes . The only difference is Fairfax county police does not coddle criminals like in MoCo, thank god for small mercies.

The pros of rapid transit still outweigh the cons, which may definitely include an increase in crime. Imagine if the DC region built all the freeways planned in the 50s instead of the Metro subway. DC would be a much less attractive city, and it’s hard to say if crime levels would’ve been lower w/o Metro and with all the freeways. Look at Detroit with its spaghetti system of freeways and no mass rapid transit.

I’m pretty sure that there are many more important factors that brought Detroit to its current state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op isn’t wrong to worry. Ever since Tysons got the metro, we have seen crime go up. I live a mile from Tysons in McLean, so we are acutely aware of the changes . The only difference is Fairfax county police does not coddle criminals like in MoCo, thank god for small mercies.

The pros of rapid transit still outweigh the cons, which may definitely include an increase in crime. Imagine if the DC region built all the freeways planned in the 50s instead of the Metro subway. DC would be a much less attractive city, and it’s hard to say if crime levels would’ve been lower w/o Metro and with all the freeways. Look at Detroit with its spaghetti system of freeways and no mass rapid transit.

I’m pretty sure that there are many more important factors that brought Detroit to its current state.

I’d rather have a world class city with a Metro that yes, criminals may use to facilitate criminal activity with sometimes tragic consequences, but that also spared the destruction and demolition of neighborhoods for freeways. There would be no Bloomingdale with the iconic turreted rowhouses. Takoma DC (and Takoma Park) would be a big tangle of freeways and no quaint victorian homes; K Street would be a huge freeway and not the boulevard it is today; the Palisades would have a freeway separating it from the river below belching toxic fumes. Etc. The investment following Metro also helped revitalize neighborhoods like 14th Street that looked like a war zone with burned out building facades as recently as the 90s.

And there’s no way to calculate whether or not crime would be lower in DC with freeways all over the city and the suburbs vs the Metro subway system. But my hunch is DC wouldn’t have been be any safer as a freeway city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op isn’t wrong to worry. Ever since Tysons got the metro, we have seen crime go up. I live a mile from Tysons in McLean, so we are acutely aware of the changes . The only difference is Fairfax county police does not coddle criminals like in MoCo, thank god for small mercies.

+1
Also leave near Tysons. Crime has greatly increased and the timing is in direct line to the metro opening there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op isn’t wrong to worry. Ever since Tysons got the metro, we have seen crime go up. I live a mile from Tysons in McLean, so we are acutely aware of the changes . The only difference is Fairfax county police does not coddle criminals like in MoCo, thank god for small mercies.

+1
Also leave near Tysons. Crime has greatly increased and the timing is in direct line to the metro opening there.

The metro opened in Bethesda in 1984.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op isn’t wrong to worry. Ever since Tysons got the metro, we have seen crime go up. I live a mile from Tysons in McLean, so we are acutely aware of the changes . The only difference is Fairfax county police does not coddle criminals like in MoCo, thank god for small mercies.

+1
Also leave near Tysons. Crime has greatly increased and the timing is in direct line to the metro opening there.

You aren't used to seeing non-white people in McLean, are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op isn’t wrong to worry. Ever since Tysons got the metro, we have seen crime go up. I live a mile from Tysons in McLean, so we are acutely aware of the changes . The only difference is Fairfax county police does not coddle criminals like in MoCo, thank god for small mercies.

+1
Also leave near Tysons. Crime has greatly increased and the timing is in direct line to the metro opening there.

You aren't used to seeing non-white people in McLean, are you?

There it is, the dumbest thing you’ll read all day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.

Move to Great Falls, Falls Church, Rockville or Gaithersburg. You could also rent in Georgetown or Foxhall

I agree with OP - look at Pentagon City Mall. It used to be nice but it's kind of a mess now.

+1. The parking lot reeks of pot and you see some of the most low class human beings in the DMV. Avoid it like the plague.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.

Log off. There are plenty of non wealthy residents in Bethesda who need public transport. Also, aren’t we moving towards more sustainable modes of transportation?!

Are there a lot of residents of Bethesda that are dying for public transport? Where are they going?

Dying for? Really?

[Anonymous]

You can run and you can’t hide.

[Anonymous]

I live near College Park and was hoping we could keep the Bethesda, "Bethesda North," and "Bethesda WAY North" folks out. I worry about our shops being packed with those types. I guess we can all hope the Purple Line continues to get delayed and cost the MoCo crowd and state more $$

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live near College Park and was hoping we could keep the Bethesda, "Bethesda North," and "Bethesda WAY North" folks out. I worry about our shops being packed with those types. I guess we can all hope the Purple Line continues to get delayed and cost the MoCo crowd and state more $$

I’m guessing you have purple hair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.

Move to Great Falls, Falls Church, Rockville or Gaithersburg. You could also rent in Georgetown or Foxhall

I agree with OP - look at Pentagon City Mall. It used to be nice but it's kind of a mess now.

+1. The parking lot reeks of pot and you see some of the most low class human beings in the DMV. Avoid it like the plague.

I used to love shopping there because it was a really nice size, but surprised by its state the last few times I've been back. They should push in a strong police presence, not cede the real estate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.

Move to Great Falls, Falls Church, Rockville or Gaithersburg. You could also rent in Georgetown or Foxhall

I agree with OP - look at Pentagon City Mall. It used to be nice but it's kind of a mess now.

+1. The parking lot reeks of pot and you see some of the most low class human beings in the DMV. Avoid it like the plague.

If the problem is the parking lot, then the Metro probably isn't to blame.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op should just say they’re racist instead of all this fake concern. There’s nothing stopping the “wrong people” from taking the red line up to Bethesda Row already.

The purple line will let people go from Bethesda to silver spring very quickly and painlessly. Id love to go meet my friends at Denizens and not have to drive back

I am not PP but I guess I am racist if I don't want crime. It's not rocket science to see who is doing the looting and carjackings? Funny, I've never seen a 15yr old in a Landon hoodie rob Nike.

Say what you want but there are not many looters/carjackers with Bethesda addresses. They come from other areas and come via public transit.

I guess the question is whom do you think actually WANTS crime. That's always the weirdest discriminator/declaration - who wants sh!t schools and crime??? Maybe the question is who you think deserves them?

Obviously PP thinks people live in the city because they want bad schools and crime. It's like the idiots who keep saying "you voted for this!" whenever people complain about DC.