Bethesda Row after the Purple Line Opens?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what will become of the Sidwell property once the lower school moves into DC? It would be lovely if it could be repurposed into a pocket park. Would Bethesda bid on it for this? The one thing I can see as an outsider that Bethesda needs is more parks.

Yes with all the new housing and increased density in the pipeline, more parkland should be a priority. I hope the county buys it.

Yup! Density leaves more room for parks!

But why have a park at all if you can put a additional high rise there instead? Wouldn’t we be better off with two residential buildings and no park than with one residential building and a park? We don’t need parks.

What is up with NIMBYs obsession with just completely making up imaginary scenarios then acting like being offended by their own wholesale fabrication is an actual argument?

Come on over to Takoma Park, where planners are busy destroying a nice area near the metro, with beautiful old trees, to put up a high rise. I know some peopl who think this is a good thing--and many more who are on the side of the trees and park.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what will become of the Sidwell property once the lower school moves into DC? It would be lovely if it could be repurposed into a pocket park. Would Bethesda bid on it for this? The one thing I can see as an outsider that Bethesda needs is more parks.

Yes with all the new housing and increased density in the pipeline, more parkland should be a priority. I hope the county buys it.

Yup! Density leaves more room for parks!

But why have a park at all if you can put a additional high rise there instead? Wouldn’t we be better off with two residential buildings and no park than with one residential building and a park? We don’t need parks.

What is up with NIMBYs obsession with just completely making up imaginary scenarios then acting like being offended by their own wholesale fabrication is an actual argument?

Come on over to Takoma Park, where planners are busy destroying a nice area near the metro, with beautiful old trees, to put up a high rise. I know some peopl who think this is a good thing--and many more who are on the side of the trees and park.

What are you talking about? Are you talking about the WMATA/EYA Takoma Metro project in DC?

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Anonymous wrote:If you wanted access to jobs, they should have extended the Purple Line to Tysons. That would save people a lot more time, curb emissions from cars jammed on the Beltway etc.

Tysons wants no part in inviting Maryland non sense to their locations. All of jobs already moved to Tysons/NoVa. No need for their people to travel to MD. MoCo doesn't care about these things. How many people in Chevy Chase go to Lanham for work? Not many, but no need to do a survey on how many actual MoCo residents this will help. We are liberal do gooders. We will accept more crime with no benefit to our economy. Those of us who do not live by this mantra will be called an "ist" of some sort.

This is ridiculous. There are many people who live in Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Wheaton and Silver Spring who work at UMD in College Park, National Archives in College Park, Dept of Ag/BARC in Beltsville, NASA in Greenbelt, and the large New Carrollton Federal building in Lanham. All of these federal agencies have large buildings or campuses and employ a lot of people. I work at NASA in Greenbelt and know a number of people who would like the option to commute from Mo Co to Greenbelt without having to go fight the red line overcrowding or have to go all the way downtown and then back out to get to work.

But while that will be some of the traffic, the bigger part is that people who cannot afford to live in Montgomery County, but work there, can live in PG County and have a way to commute without a car. There are many, many people who have lower income jobs in Montgomery County that need ways to commute to work. The bus lines are inconsistent and WMATA keeps eliminating needed lines. Otherwise people have to get to the Metro stations in PG COunty, travel downtown and hten back out to the overcrowded red line to get to Montgomery County. These are the people who need the purple line the most. The people who work as cleaning staff, baristas, supermarket staff, restaurant workers, fast food workers, retail clerks, receptionists, and so many more hourly wage jobs in CC, Bethesda, Silver Spring, Wheaton, Rockville, Potomac, but can't afford to live in those areas. You want all those jobs filled, and the NIMBYs don't care how many problems these people have getting to and from work when they can't afford to live in the area. So you don't care about their problems as long as they keep quiet. But I know many people who live in PG County who are looking forward to the Purple Line opening for exactly those reasons.

So, it may be that Montgomery County residents will be a minority of the rides, but MOntgomery County will benefit immensely by having their conveniences supported by lower earning hourly wage workers who can commute more easily to work in MoCo.

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Anonymous wrote:If you wanted access to jobs, they should have extended the Purple Line to Tysons. That would save people a lot more time, curb emissions from cars jammed on the Beltway etc.

Tysons wants no part in inviting Maryland non sense to their locations. All of jobs already moved to Tysons/NoVa. No need for their people to travel to MD. MoCo doesn't care about these things. How many people in Chevy Chase go to Lanham for work? Not many, but no need to do a survey on how many actual MoCo residents this will help. We are liberal do gooders. We will accept more crime with no benefit to our economy. Those of us who do not live by this mantra will be called an "ist" of some sort.

This is ridiculous. There are many people who live in Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Wheaton and Silver Spring who work at UMD in College Park, National Archives in College Park, Dept of Ag/BARC in Beltsville, NASA in Greenbelt, and the large New Carrollton Federal building in Lanham. All of these federal agencies have large buildings or campuses and employ a lot of people. I work at NASA in Greenbelt and know a number of people who would like the option to commute from Mo Co to Greenbelt without having to go fight the red line overcrowding or have to go all the way downtown and then back out to get to work.

But while that will be some of the traffic, the bigger part is that people who cannot afford to live in Montgomery County, but work there, can live in PG County and have a way to commute without a car. There are many, many people who have lower income jobs in Montgomery County that need ways to commute to work. The bus lines are inconsistent and WMATA keeps eliminating needed lines. Otherwise people have to get to the Metro stations in PG COunty, travel downtown and hten back out to the overcrowded red line to get to Montgomery County. These are the people who need the purple line the most. The people who work as cleaning staff, baristas, supermarket staff, restaurant workers, fast food workers, retail clerks, receptionists, and so many more hourly wage jobs in CC, Bethesda, Silver Spring, Wheaton, Rockville, Potomac, but can't afford to live in those areas. You want all those jobs filled, and the NIMBYs don't care how many problems these people have getting to and from work when they can't afford to live in the area. So you don't care about their problems as long as they keep quiet. But I know many people who live in PG County who are looking forward to the Purple Line opening for exactly those reasons.

So, it may be that Montgomery County residents will be a minority of the rides, but MOntgomery County will benefit immensely by having their conveniences supported by lower earning hourly wage workers who can commute more easily to work in MoCo.

It’s cool, the planning board and the MOCO council are working overtime on importing more low income workers to the area.

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Bethesda Row has been going downhill ever since Federal Realty got rid of the Barnes and Noble store.

Now nobody goes down there in the evenings and it's become quite dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote:Bethesda Row has been going downhill ever since Federal Realty got rid of the Barnes and Noble store.

Now nobody goes down there in the evenings and it's become quite dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote:If you wanted access to jobs, they should have extended the Purple Line to Tysons. That would save people a lot more time, curb emissions from cars jammed on the Beltway etc.

Tysons wants no part in inviting Maryland non sense to their locations. All of jobs already moved to Tysons/NoVa. No need for their people to travel to MD. MoCo doesn't care about these things. How many people in Chevy Chase go to Lanham for work? Not many, but no need to do a survey on how many actual MoCo residents this will help. We are liberal do gooders. We will accept more crime with no benefit to our economy. Those of us who do not live by this mantra will be called an "ist" of some sort.

This is ridiculous. There are many people who live in Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Wheaton and Silver Spring who work at UMD in College Park, National Archives in College Park, Dept of Ag/BARC in Beltsville, NASA in Greenbelt, and the large New Carrollton Federal building in Lanham. All of these federal agencies have large buildings or campuses and employ a lot of people. I work at NASA in Greenbelt and know a number of people who would like the option to commute from Mo Co to Greenbelt without having to go fight the red line overcrowding or have to go all the way downtown and then back out to get to work.

But while that will be some of the traffic, the bigger part is that people who cannot afford to live in Montgomery County, but work there, can live in PG County and have a way to commute without a car. There are many, many people who have lower income jobs in Montgomery County that need ways to commute to work. The bus lines are inconsistent and WMATA keeps eliminating needed lines. Otherwise people have to get to the Metro stations in PG COunty, travel downtown and hten back out to the overcrowded red line to get to Montgomery County. These are the people who need the purple line the most. The people who work as cleaning staff, baristas, supermarket staff, restaurant workers, fast food workers, retail clerks, receptionists, and so many more hourly wage jobs in CC, Bethesda, Silver Spring, Wheaton, Rockville, Potomac, but can't afford to live in those areas. You want all those jobs filled, and the NIMBYs don't care how many problems these people have getting to and from work when they can't afford to live in the area. So you don't care about their problems as long as they keep quiet. But I know many people who live in PG County who are looking forward to the Purple Line opening for exactly those reasons.

So, it may be that Montgomery County residents will be a minority of the rides, but MOntgomery County will benefit immensely by having their conveniences supported by lower earning hourly wage workers who can commute more easily to work in MoCo.

It’s cool, the planning board and the MOCO council are working overtime on importing more low income workers to the area.

Yes, always trying to invite the takers and drive away people that actually create surplus revenue for the county. The only thing this planning department knows how to do is bankrupt MOCO.

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Anonymous wrote:If you wanted access to jobs, they should have extended the Purple Line to Tysons. That would save people a lot more time, curb emissions from cars jammed on the Beltway etc.

Tysons wants no part in inviting Maryland non sense to their locations. All of jobs already moved to Tysons/NoVa. No need for their people to travel to MD. MoCo doesn't care about these things. How many people in Chevy Chase go to Lanham for work? Not many, but no need to do a survey on how many actual MoCo residents this will help. We are liberal do gooders. We will accept more crime with no benefit to our economy. Those of us who do not live by this mantra will be called an "ist" of some sort.

This is ridiculous. There are many people who live in Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Wheaton and Silver Spring who work at UMD in College Park, National Archives in College Park, Dept of Ag/BARC in Beltsville, NASA in Greenbelt, and the large New Carrollton Federal building in Lanham. All of these federal agencies have large buildings or campuses and employ a lot of people. I work at NASA in Greenbelt and know a number of people who would like the option to commute from Mo Co to Greenbelt without having to go fight the red line overcrowding or have to go all the way downtown and then back out to get to work.

But while that will be some of the traffic, the bigger part is that people who cannot afford to live in Montgomery County, but work there, can live in PG County and have a way to commute without a car. There are many, many people who have lower income jobs in Montgomery County that need ways to commute to work. The bus lines are inconsistent and WMATA keeps eliminating needed lines. Otherwise people have to get to the Metro stations in PG COunty, travel downtown and hten back out to the overcrowded red line to get to Montgomery County. These are the people who need the purple line the most. The people who work as cleaning staff, baristas, supermarket staff, restaurant workers, fast food workers, retail clerks, receptionists, and so many more hourly wage jobs in CC, Bethesda, Silver Spring, Wheaton, Rockville, Potomac, but can't afford to live in those areas. You want all those jobs filled, and the NIMBYs don't care how many problems these people have getting to and from work when they can't afford to live in the area. So you don't care about their problems as long as they keep quiet. But I know many people who live in PG County who are looking forward to the Purple Line opening for exactly those reasons.

So, it may be that Montgomery County residents will be a minority of the rides, but MOntgomery County will benefit immensely by having their conveniences supported by lower earning hourly wage workers who can commute more easily to work in MoCo.

It’s cool, the planning board and the MOCO council are working overtime on importing more low income workers to the area.

Yes, always trying to invite the takers and drive away people that actually create surplus revenue for the county. The only thing this planning department knows how to do is bankrupt MOCO.

You nailed it.

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Anonymous wrote:If you wanted access to jobs, they should have extended the Purple Line to Tysons. That would save people a lot more time, curb emissions from cars jammed on the Beltway etc.

Tysons wants no part in inviting Maryland non sense to their locations. All of jobs already moved to Tysons/NoVa. No need for their people to travel to MD. MoCo doesn't care about these things. How many people in Chevy Chase go to Lanham for work? Not many, but no need to do a survey on how many actual MoCo residents this will help. We are liberal do gooders. We will accept more crime with no benefit to our economy. Those of us who do not live by this mantra will be called an "ist" of some sort.

This is ridiculous. There are many people who live in Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Wheaton and Silver Spring who work at UMD in College Park, National Archives in College Park, Dept of Ag/BARC in Beltsville, NASA in Greenbelt, and the large New Carrollton Federal building in Lanham. All of these federal agencies have large buildings or campuses and employ a lot of people. I work at NASA in Greenbelt and know a number of people who would like the option to commute from Mo Co to Greenbelt without having to go fight the red line overcrowding or have to go all the way downtown and then back out to get to work.

But while that will be some of the traffic, the bigger part is that people who cannot afford to live in Montgomery County, but work there, can live in PG County and have a way to commute without a car. There are many, many people who have lower income jobs in Montgomery County that need ways to commute to work. The bus lines are inconsistent and WMATA keeps eliminating needed lines. Otherwise people have to get to the Metro stations in PG COunty, travel downtown and hten back out to the overcrowded red line to get to Montgomery County. These are the people who need the purple line the most. The people who work as cleaning staff, baristas, supermarket staff, restaurant workers, fast food workers, retail clerks, receptionists, and so many more hourly wage jobs in CC, Bethesda, Silver Spring, Wheaton, Rockville, Potomac, but can't afford to live in those areas. You want all those jobs filled, and the NIMBYs don't care how many problems these people have getting to and from work when they can't afford to live in the area. So you don't care about their problems as long as they keep quiet. But I know many people who live in PG County who are looking forward to the Purple Line opening for exactly those reasons.

So, it may be that Montgomery County residents will be a minority of the rides, but MOntgomery County will benefit immensely by having their conveniences supported by lower earning hourly wage workers who can commute more easily to work in MoCo.

It’s cool, the planning board and the MOCO council are working overtime on importing more low income workers to the area.

Yes, always trying to invite the takers and drive away people that actually create surplus revenue for the county. The only thing this planning department knows how to do is bankrupt MOCO.

Ayn Rand has arisen from the grave and is posting on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:If you wanted access to jobs, they should have extended the Purple Line to Tysons. That would save people a lot more time, curb emissions from cars jammed on the Beltway etc.

Tysons wants no part in inviting Maryland non sense to their locations. All of jobs already moved to Tysons/NoVa. No need for their people to travel to MD. MoCo doesn't care about these things. How many people in Chevy Chase go to Lanham for work? Not many, but no need to do a survey on how many actual MoCo residents this will help. We are liberal do gooders. We will accept more crime with no benefit to our economy. Those of us who do not live by this mantra will be called an "ist" of some sort.

This is ridiculous. There are many people who live in Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Wheaton and Silver Spring who work at UMD in College Park, National Archives in College Park, Dept of Ag/BARC in Beltsville, NASA in Greenbelt, and the large New Carrollton Federal building in Lanham. All of these federal agencies have large buildings or campuses and employ a lot of people. I work at NASA in Greenbelt and know a number of people who would like the option to commute from Mo Co to Greenbelt without having to go fight the red line overcrowding or have to go all the way downtown and then back out to get to work.

But while that will be some of the traffic, the bigger part is that people who cannot afford to live in Montgomery County, but work there, can live in PG County and have a way to commute without a car. There are many, many people who have lower income jobs in Montgomery County that need ways to commute to work. The bus lines are inconsistent and WMATA keeps eliminating needed lines. Otherwise people have to get to the Metro stations in PG COunty, travel downtown and hten back out to the overcrowded red line to get to Montgomery County. These are the people who need the purple line the most. The people who work as cleaning staff, baristas, supermarket staff, restaurant workers, fast food workers, retail clerks, receptionists, and so many more hourly wage jobs in CC, Bethesda, Silver Spring, Wheaton, Rockville, Potomac, but can't afford to live in those areas. You want all those jobs filled, and the NIMBYs don't care how many problems these people have getting to and from work when they can't afford to live in the area. So you don't care about their problems as long as they keep quiet. But I know many people who live in PG County who are looking forward to the Purple Line opening for exactly those reasons.

So, it may be that Montgomery County residents will be a minority of the rides, but MOntgomery County will benefit immensely by having their conveniences supported by lower earning hourly wage workers who can commute more easily to work in MoCo.

It’s cool, the planning board and the MOCO council are working overtime on importing more low income workers to the area.

Yes, always trying to invite the takers and drive away people that actually create surplus revenue for the county. The only thing this planning department knows how to do is bankrupt MOCO.

Ayn Rand has arisen from the grave and is posting on DCUM.

There are very practical revenue concerns about zoning and development policies. You need sufficient numbers of high
income taxpayers to offset the losses from low income taxpayers that on average cost the county more than they contribute in tax revenue. Ignoring this reality will destroy the county budget and capacity to fund high quality local government services. Taxpayers that live in million dollar single family homes create surplus revenue for the county, taxpayers that live in subsidized low income housing do not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you wanted access to jobs, they should have extended the Purple Line to Tysons. That would save people a lot more time, curb emissions from cars jammed on the Beltway etc.

Tysons wants no part in inviting Maryland non sense to their locations. All of jobs already moved to Tysons/NoVa. No need for their people to travel to MD. MoCo doesn't care about these things. How many people in Chevy Chase go to Lanham for work? Not many, but no need to do a survey on how many actual MoCo residents this will help. We are liberal do gooders. We will accept more crime with no benefit to our economy. Those of us who do not live by this mantra will be called an "ist" of some sort.

This is ridiculous. There are many people who live in Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Wheaton and Silver Spring who work at UMD in College Park, National Archives in College Park, Dept of Ag/BARC in Beltsville, NASA in Greenbelt, and the large New Carrollton Federal building in Lanham. All of these federal agencies have large buildings or campuses and employ a lot of people. I work at NASA in Greenbelt and know a number of people who would like the option to commute from Mo Co to Greenbelt without having to go fight the red line overcrowding or have to go all the way downtown and then back out to get to work.

But while that will be some of the traffic, the bigger part is that people who cannot afford to live in Montgomery County, but work there, can live in PG County and have a way to commute without a car. There are many, many people who have lower income jobs in Montgomery County that need ways to commute to work. The bus lines are inconsistent and WMATA keeps eliminating needed lines. Otherwise people have to get to the Metro stations in PG COunty, travel downtown and hten back out to the overcrowded red line to get to Montgomery County. These are the people who need the purple line the most. The people who work as cleaning staff, baristas, supermarket staff, restaurant workers, fast food workers, retail clerks, receptionists, and so many more hourly wage jobs in CC, Bethesda, Silver Spring, Wheaton, Rockville, Potomac, but can't afford to live in those areas. You want all those jobs filled, and the NIMBYs don't care how many problems these people have getting to and from work when they can't afford to live in the area. So you don't care about their problems as long as they keep quiet. But I know many people who live in PG County who are looking forward to the Purple Line opening for exactly those reasons.

So, it may be that Montgomery County residents will be a minority of the rides, but MOntgomery County will benefit immensely by having their conveniences supported by lower earning hourly wage workers who can commute more easily to work in MoCo.

It’s cool, the planning board and the MOCO council are working overtime on importing more low income workers to the area.

Yes, always trying to invite the takers and drive away people that actually create surplus revenue for the county. The only thing this planning department knows how to do is bankrupt MOCO.

Ayn Rand has arisen from the grave and is posting on DCUM.

There are very practical revenue concerns about zoning and development policies. You need sufficient numbers of high
income taxpayers to offset the losses from low income taxpayers that on average cost the county more than they contribute in tax revenue. Ignoring this reality will destroy the county budget and capacity to fund high quality local government services. Taxpayers that live in million dollar single family homes create surplus revenue for the county, taxpayers that live in subsidized low income housing do not.

What are you talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:If you wanted access to jobs, they should have extended the Purple Line to Tysons. That would save people a lot more time, curb emissions from cars jammed on the Beltway etc.

Tysons wants no part in inviting Maryland non sense to their locations. All of jobs already moved to Tysons/NoVa. No need for their people to travel to MD. MoCo doesn't care about these things. How many people in Chevy Chase go to Lanham for work? Not many, but no need to do a survey on how many actual MoCo residents this will help. We are liberal do gooders. We will accept more crime with no benefit to our economy. Those of us who do not live by this mantra will be called an "ist" of some sort.

This is ridiculous. There are many people who live in Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Wheaton and Silver Spring who work at UMD in College Park, National Archives in College Park, Dept of Ag/BARC in Beltsville, NASA in Greenbelt, and the large New Carrollton Federal building in Lanham. All of these federal agencies have large buildings or campuses and employ a lot of people. I work at NASA in Greenbelt and know a number of people who would like the option to commute from Mo Co to Greenbelt without having to go fight the red line overcrowding or have to go all the way downtown and then back out to get to work.

But while that will be some of the traffic, the bigger part is that people who cannot afford to live in Montgomery County, but work there, can live in PG County and have a way to commute without a car. There are many, many people who have lower income jobs in Montgomery County that need ways to commute to work. The bus lines are inconsistent and WMATA keeps eliminating needed lines. Otherwise people have to get to the Metro stations in PG COunty, travel downtown and hten back out to the overcrowded red line to get to Montgomery County. These are the people who need the purple line the most. The people who work as cleaning staff, baristas, supermarket staff, restaurant workers, fast food workers, retail clerks, receptionists, and so many more hourly wage jobs in CC, Bethesda, Silver Spring, Wheaton, Rockville, Potomac, but can't afford to live in those areas. You want all those jobs filled, and the NIMBYs don't care how many problems these people have getting to and from work when they can't afford to live in the area. So you don't care about their problems as long as they keep quiet. But I know many people who live in PG County who are looking forward to the Purple Line opening for exactly those reasons.

So, it may be that Montgomery County residents will be a minority of the rides, but MOntgomery County will benefit immensely by having their conveniences supported by lower earning hourly wage workers who can commute more easily to work in MoCo.

It’s cool, the planning board and the MOCO council are working overtime on importing more low income workers to the area.

Yes, always trying to invite the takers and drive away people that actually create surplus revenue for the county. The only thing this planning department knows how to do is bankrupt MOCO.

Ayn Rand has arisen from the grave and is posting on DCUM.

There are very practical revenue concerns about zoning and development policies. You need sufficient numbers of high
income taxpayers to offset the losses from low income taxpayers that on average cost the county more than they contribute in tax revenue. Ignoring this reality will destroy the county budget and capacity to fund high quality local government services. Taxpayers that live in million dollar single family homes create surplus revenue for the county, taxpayers that live in subsidized low income housing do not.

This is not the point of the discussion. The point of the discussion was whether it was worthwhile to import low wage workers from outside the county to come and work in jobs that do not pay enough for the workers to live in the county where they work.

But, I supposed PP's comment could suggest that it is probably a better use of the county money to invest in public transit than to invest in low-income housing.

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Anonymous wrote:If you wanted access to jobs, they should have extended the Purple Line to Tysons. That would save people a lot more time, curb emissions from cars jammed on the Beltway etc.

Tysons wants no part in inviting Maryland non sense to their locations. All of jobs already moved to Tysons/NoVa. No need for their people to travel to MD. MoCo doesn't care about these things. How many people in Chevy Chase go to Lanham for work? Not many, but no need to do a survey on how many actual MoCo residents this will help. We are liberal do gooders. We will accept more crime with no benefit to our economy. Those of us who do not live by this mantra will be called an "ist" of some sort.

This is ridiculous. There are many people who live in Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Wheaton and Silver Spring who work at UMD in College Park, National Archives in College Park, Dept of Ag/BARC in Beltsville, NASA in Greenbelt, and the large New Carrollton Federal building in Lanham. All of these federal agencies have large buildings or campuses and employ a lot of people. I work at NASA in Greenbelt and know a number of people who would like the option to commute from Mo Co to Greenbelt without having to go fight the red line overcrowding or have to go all the way downtown and then back out to get to work.

But while that will be some of the traffic, the bigger part is that people who cannot afford to live in Montgomery County, but work there, can live in PG County and have a way to commute without a car. There are many, many people who have lower income jobs in Montgomery County that need ways to commute to work. The bus lines are inconsistent and WMATA keeps eliminating needed lines. Otherwise people have to get to the Metro stations in PG COunty, travel downtown and hten back out to the overcrowded red line to get to Montgomery County. These are the people who need the purple line the most. The people who work as cleaning staff, baristas, supermarket staff, restaurant workers, fast food workers, retail clerks, receptionists, and so many more hourly wage jobs in CC, Bethesda, Silver Spring, Wheaton, Rockville, Potomac, but can't afford to live in those areas. You want all those jobs filled, and the NIMBYs don't care how many problems these people have getting to and from work when they can't afford to live in the area. So you don't care about their problems as long as they keep quiet. But I know many people who live in PG County who are looking forward to the Purple Line opening for exactly those reasons.

So, it may be that Montgomery County residents will be a minority of the rides, but MOntgomery County will benefit immensely by having their conveniences supported by lower earning hourly wage workers who can commute more easily to work in MoCo.

It’s cool, the planning board and the MOCO council are working overtime on importing more low income workers to the area.

Yes, always trying to invite the takers and drive away people that actually create surplus revenue for the county. The only thing this planning department knows how to do is bankrupt MOCO.

Ayn Rand has arisen from the grave and is posting on DCUM.

There are very practical revenue concerns about zoning and development policies. You need sufficient numbers of high
income taxpayers to offset the losses from low income taxpayers that on average cost the county more than they contribute in tax revenue. Ignoring this reality will destroy the county budget and capacity to fund high quality local government services. Taxpayers that live in million dollar single family homes create surplus revenue for the county, taxpayers that live in subsidized low income housing do not.

This is not the point of the discussion. The point of the discussion was whether it was worthwhile to import low wage workers from outside the county to come and work in jobs that do not pay enough for the workers to live in the county where they work.

But, I supposed PP's comment could suggest that it is probably a better use of the county money to invest in public transit than to invest in low-income housing.

Buses would be a much cheaper and more cost effective way to import labor from other counties than a multibillion dollar metro line extension. They just need a way to discourage violent antisocial people that cause problems for the county from using the bus. I think it would be best to create a county funded grant program where employers give low wage workers discounted bus passes that county offsets part of the cost. The metro currently subsidizes passes for anyone that is low income regardless of whether they are actually employed or not. This is ridiculous to encourage lazy behavior and give antisocial people that don’t want to work subsidized transit to ensure equitable access to shoplifting opportunities.

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Anonymous wrote:If you wanted access to jobs, they should have extended the Purple Line to Tysons. That would save people a lot more time, curb emissions from cars jammed on the Beltway etc.

Tysons wants no part in inviting Maryland non sense to their locations. All of jobs already moved to Tysons/NoVa. No need for their people to travel to MD. MoCo doesn't care about these things. How many people in Chevy Chase go to Lanham for work? Not many, but no need to do a survey on how many actual MoCo residents this will help. We are liberal do gooders. We will accept more crime with no benefit to our economy. Those of us who do not live by this mantra will be called an "ist" of some sort.

This is ridiculous. There are many people who live in Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Wheaton and Silver Spring who work at UMD in College Park, National Archives in College Park, Dept of Ag/BARC in Beltsville, NASA in Greenbelt, and the large New Carrollton Federal building in Lanham. All of these federal agencies have large buildings or campuses and employ a lot of people. I work at NASA in Greenbelt and know a number of people who would like the option to commute from Mo Co to Greenbelt without having to go fight the red line overcrowding or have to go all the way downtown and then back out to get to work.

But while that will be some of the traffic, the bigger part is that people who cannot afford to live in Montgomery County, but work there, can live in PG County and have a way to commute without a car. There are many, many people who have lower income jobs in Montgomery County that need ways to commute to work. The bus lines are inconsistent and WMATA keeps eliminating needed lines. Otherwise people have to get to the Metro stations in PG COunty, travel downtown and hten back out to the overcrowded red line to get to Montgomery County. These are the people who need the purple line the most. The people who work as cleaning staff, baristas, supermarket staff, restaurant workers, fast food workers, retail clerks, receptionists, and so many more hourly wage jobs in CC, Bethesda, Silver Spring, Wheaton, Rockville, Potomac, but can't afford to live in those areas. You want all those jobs filled, and the NIMBYs don't care how many problems these people have getting to and from work when they can't afford to live in the area. So you don't care about their problems as long as they keep quiet. But I know many people who live in PG County who are looking forward to the Purple Line opening for exactly those reasons.

So, it may be that Montgomery County residents will be a minority of the rides, but MOntgomery County will benefit immensely by having their conveniences supported by lower earning hourly wage workers who can commute more easily to work in MoCo.

It’s cool, the planning board and the MOCO council are working overtime on importing more low income workers to the area.

Yes, always trying to invite the takers and drive away people that actually create surplus revenue for the county. The only thing this planning department knows how to do is bankrupt MOCO.

Ayn Rand has arisen from the grave and is posting on DCUM.

There are very practical revenue concerns about zoning and development policies. You need sufficient numbers of high
income taxpayers to offset the losses from low income taxpayers that on average cost the county more than they contribute in tax revenue. Ignoring this reality will destroy the county budget and capacity to fund high quality local government services. Taxpayers that live in million dollar single family homes create surplus revenue for the county, taxpayers that live in subsidized low income housing do not.

This is not the point of the discussion. The point of the discussion was whether it was worthwhile to import low wage workers from outside the county to come and work in jobs that do not pay enough for the workers to live in the county where they work.

But, I supposed PP's comment could suggest that it is probably a better use of the county money to invest in public transit than to invest in low-income housing.

Buses would be a much cheaper and more cost effective way to import labor from other counties than a multibillion dollar metro line extension. They just need a way to discourage violent antisocial people that cause problems for the county from using the bus. I think it would be best to create a county funded grant program where employers give low wage workers discounted bus passes that county offsets part of the cost. The metro currently subsidizes passes for anyone that is low income regardless of whether they are actually employed or not. This is ridiculous to encourage lazy behavior and give antisocial people that don’t want to work subsidized transit to ensure equitable access to shoplifting opportunities.

I have no problem with helping honest and hardworking people that are struggling to get by. However, I do not taxpayer funds supporting people that are ruining our area and commuting crimes.

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Anonymous wrote:If you wanted access to jobs, they should have extended the Purple Line to Tysons. That would save people a lot more time, curb emissions from cars jammed on the Beltway etc.

Tysons wants no part in inviting Maryland non sense to their locations. All of jobs already moved to Tysons/NoVa. No need for their people to travel to MD. MoCo doesn't care about these things. How many people in Chevy Chase go to Lanham for work? Not many, but no need to do a survey on how many actual MoCo residents this will help. We are liberal do gooders. We will accept more crime with no benefit to our economy. Those of us who do not live by this mantra will be called an "ist" of some sort.

This is ridiculous. There are many people who live in Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Wheaton and Silver Spring who work at UMD in College Park, National Archives in College Park, Dept of Ag/BARC in Beltsville, NASA in Greenbelt, and the large New Carrollton Federal building in Lanham. All of these federal agencies have large buildings or campuses and employ a lot of people. I work at NASA in Greenbelt and know a number of people who would like the option to commute from Mo Co to Greenbelt without having to go fight the red line overcrowding or have to go all the way downtown and then back out to get to work.

But while that will be some of the traffic, the bigger part is that people who cannot afford to live in Montgomery County, but work there, can live in PG County and have a way to commute without a car. There are many, many people who have lower income jobs in Montgomery County that need ways to commute to work. The bus lines are inconsistent and WMATA keeps eliminating needed lines. Otherwise people have to get to the Metro stations in PG COunty, travel downtown and hten back out to the overcrowded red line to get to Montgomery County. These are the people who need the purple line the most. The people who work as cleaning staff, baristas, supermarket staff, restaurant workers, fast food workers, retail clerks, receptionists, and so many more hourly wage jobs in CC, Bethesda, Silver Spring, Wheaton, Rockville, Potomac, but can't afford to live in those areas. You want all those jobs filled, and the NIMBYs don't care how many problems these people have getting to and from work when they can't afford to live in the area. So you don't care about their problems as long as they keep quiet. But I know many people who live in PG County who are looking forward to the Purple Line opening for exactly those reasons.

So, it may be that Montgomery County residents will be a minority of the rides, but MOntgomery County will benefit immensely by having their conveniences supported by lower earning hourly wage workers who can commute more easily to work in MoCo.

It’s cool, the planning board and the MOCO council are working overtime on importing more low income workers to the area.

Yes, always trying to invite the takers and drive away people that actually create surplus revenue for the county. The only thing this planning department knows how to do is bankrupt MOCO.

Ayn Rand has arisen from the grave and is posting on DCUM.

There are very practical revenue concerns about zoning and development policies. You need sufficient numbers of high
income taxpayers to offset the losses from low income taxpayers that on average cost the county more than they contribute in tax revenue. Ignoring this reality will destroy the county budget and capacity to fund high quality local government services. Taxpayers that live in million dollar single family homes create surplus revenue for the county, taxpayers that live in subsidized low income housing do not.

This is not the point of the discussion. The point of the discussion was whether it was worthwhile to import low wage workers from outside the county to come and work in jobs that do not pay enough for the workers to live in the county where they work.

But, I supposed PP's comment could suggest that it is probably a better use of the county money to invest in public transit than to invest in low-income housing.

Buses would be a much cheaper and more cost effective way to import labor from other counties than a multibillion dollar metro line extension. They just need a way to discourage violent antisocial people that cause problems for the county from using the bus. I think it would be best to create a county funded grant program where employers give low wage workers discounted bus passes that county offsets part of the cost. The metro currently subsidizes passes for anyone that is low income regardless of whether they are actually employed or not. This is ridiculous to encourage lazy behavior and give antisocial people that don’t want to work subsidized transit to ensure equitable access to shoplifting opportunities.

Guess what?!

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/dot-dir/commuter/fareshare/employers.html

However, PP, I don't think you need to worry about encouraging lazy behavior. Nobody who is lazy is going to fill out the paperwork required for income-qualified discounted fares, let alone take Metro to go shoplift.