Can we analyze jennifer lopez?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why people say she’s so self involved. The product she sells is herself. She’s very good at that. She is a total workaholic maintaining the product she is selling and promoting it. I respect her dedication and I enjoy much of her music (not all of it). I also don’t know why people need to pick apart her Ben relationship. He’s obviously a guy with some issues and some talent—seems like she’s keeping him basically on track, which is an accomplishment. I think people read way too much into his facial expressions—I think he basically has RBF (men get to too! Jake Tapper always looks pissed off.). He seems like he is in on the joke about how miserable he looks and also about her fame/being in public eye. That actually makes me like him more. Maybe it will implode but every year he is sober is probably a good thing for him and his kids.

Their kids all seem totally normal to me. Many teens refuse to mug for the camera and many go through weird phases with their clothes or whatever. Good for J Lo and Ben for not forcing them into looking like little Mini Mes of tjem.

Thirty years ago if you had asked me to pick between Madonna and j Lo which would still be relevant in 2024, I would have said Madonna no contest. But Kadonna has become a joke. J Lo has done a much better job at understanding how to be a middle aged star and power broker. There’s only a handful of women that have done that.

+1 to this, too! Also very well said!

Yes, Madonna is the example of what not to do. For J Lo's sake, I hope she accepts that she WILL start to age and it's okay.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it was inappropriate of her to talk about the letters he supposedly. It's hard to get in this amazing love story when both were married with kids

I saw this as well. She basically talked about love letters between 2001 and 2010. They broke up in 2003 and he got together with Jen Garner and married and had kids starting in 2003. Very tacky - I’m sure John is 100% over it seems like coming out with that timeline is just JLO flaunting it.

I’m sure she will be shocked when he cheats on her though. So dumb.

It was incredibly tone deaf. She acts like Garner was just a place holder until he found his way back to her again. Did Jen even know about the letters? It creats this implication that he never loved Garner like he loves her. disrespectful!

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Anonymous wrote:I have followed J Lo since she played Selena in the 1990s. I'm her age. I didn't know she was a dancer on In Living Color until she was already singer/actress famous.

I'm sure she feels the need to stay relevant now in her mid50s. She's doing great.

I hope she does what many other performers have done before her.

When it's time, she can pivot like Bette Midler and Rod Stewart and she can become more of a classic singer/performer.

I saw Sheila E perform, and she's still great in her 60s. I don't see why J Lo can't continue singing and performing however she wants as long as she has the fans.

I want J Lo to have longevity in her career as she continues to age. As a fan, I will continue to support her and not tear down another woman my age.

Plus, she's friends with Lisa Remini, who I also admire a lot for how she stood up to Scientology.

I saw her in ad on YouTube for hair growth serum. I was surprised. She doesn't need it. However, she's making the big bucks.

It's probably an adjustment for her to be attacked. I saw her in a live interview with Lisa Remini. And she talked about how social media made life in the public eye even tougher. Why? Agents can't control social media the way Old Hollywood Glam could control the press in the 1940s.

Here’s the thing:

JLo isn’t a talented singer and her songs will sound weird coming from an older 50 or 60 year old woman…regardless of how young she looks.

Sure, she can probably do a campy tour like Madonna…for old ladies and gay men. It’s profitable.

But she’s trying to reestablish A list relevance…and that’s not in the cards. Her last movie was an embarrassment (she’s too old to play the bride).

I heard her promoting her documentary. She said something about how Ben was initially against it because he’s very private, but he realized she’s an artist who needs to create and share, so he got on board. #truelove. Barf. She’s so embarrassingly stunted.

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Her peak level was in the early 2000s. I even enjoy her music/performances...and no I dont think of her as a singer, more of an entertainer. That said...I wish she would stop trying to make new music. Just sing that old stuff everyone likes and make new movies. I enjoy her more in movies. Do a reality show about her life. I dont get why she has to blab so much about her current husband/love of the moment. I would think she would have learned her lesson from the original run of Bennifer but no.....

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Anonymous wrote:All I know is that she is stunning.

Ever seen her without makeup?

She has beautiful symmetrical features.
Everyone looks better with some makeup. But even without makeup she has beautiful features.

If she weren't glammed up, which she does spectacularly, I'd walk right by her on the street without a second glance.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it was inappropriate of her to talk about the letters he supposedly. It's hard to get in this amazing love story when both were married with kids

I saw this as well. She basically talked about love letters between 2001 and 2010. They broke up in 2003 and he got together with Jen Garner and married and had kids starting in 2003. Very tacky - I’m sure John is 100% over it seems like coming out with that timeline is just JLO flaunting it.

I’m sure she will be shocked when he cheats on her though. So dumb.

It was incredibly tone deaf. She acts like Garner was just a place holder until he found his way back to her again. Did Jen even know about the letters? It creats this implication that he never loved Garner like he loves her. disrespectful!

The irony is that he had his three kids with Jen, and they’re going to be in each other’s lives forever and it’s been very clear that they have established a really good friendship. He has a lot of respect for her for doing all that she did to help him in his rehab. I think JLO knows this and drives her crazy.

Long after JLO and Ben break up again, he will still have friendship and coparenting relationship with Jen G.

But I’m sure she’ll have moved on to another athlete or actor and pour another 30 million of her own money explaining to the masses what true love is in a horrendously embarrassing documentary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it was inappropriate of her to talk about the letters he supposedly. It's hard to get in this amazing love story when both were married with kids

I saw this as well. She basically talked about love letters between 2001 and 2010. They broke up in 2003 and he got together with Jen Garner and married and had kids starting in 2003. Very tacky - I’m sure John is 100% over it seems like coming out with that timeline is just JLO flaunting it.

I’m sure she will be shocked when he cheats on her though. So dumb.

It was incredibly tone deaf. She acts like Garner was just a place holder until he found his way back to her again. Did Jen even know about the letters? It creats this implication that he never loved Garner like he loves her. disrespectful!

The irony is that he had his three kids with Jen, and they’re going to be in each other’s lives forever and it’s been very clear that they have established a really good friendship. He has a lot of respect for her for doing all that she did to help him in his rehab. I think JLO knows this and drives her crazy.

Long after JLO and Ben break up again, he will still have friendship and coparenting relationship with Jen G.

But I’m sure she’ll have moved on to another athlete or actor and pour another 30 million of her own money explaining to the masses what true love is in a horrendously embarrassing documentary.

It's ironic to essentially pit the women against each other when they were the ones behaving most foolishly, IMO. They both fixated on being with Ben to the detriment of their self-respect. Ben has moved through life mostly on his own terms and these two made fools of themselves.

I like both women, but have been disappointed in how they prioritized Ben.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it was inappropriate of her to talk about the letters he supposedly. It's hard to get in this amazing love story when both were married with kids

I saw this as well. She basically talked about love letters between 2001 and 2010. They broke up in 2003 and he got together with Jen Garner and married and had kids starting in 2003. Very tacky - I’m sure John is 100% over it seems like coming out with that timeline is just JLO flaunting it.

I’m sure she will be shocked when he cheats on her though. So dumb.

It was incredibly tone deaf. She acts like Garner was just a place holder until he found his way back to her again. Did Jen even know about the letters? It creats this implication that he never loved Garner like he loves her. disrespectful!

The irony is that he had his three kids with Jen, and they’re going to be in each other’s lives forever and it’s been very clear that they have established a really good friendship. He has a lot of respect for her for doing all that she did to help him in his rehab. I think JLO knows this and drives her crazy.

Long after JLO and Ben break up again, he will still have friendship and coparenting relationship with Jen G.

But I’m sure she’ll have moved on to another athlete or actor and pour another 30 million of her own money explaining to the masses what true love is in a horrendously embarrassing documentary.

I appreciate that she finally copped to significant family mental health problems in her background because the reality of her chaotic relationship history was always in conflict with the "love" fantasies over two decades that she was projecting over and over and over again. It looked fragmented, bizarre and confusing and it always made me feel like she was full of sh*t or even worse, that she truly lacked any self awareness. Her relationship with her mother was terrible apparently and it explains in part her enormous competitiveness, particularly with women and so yea, it's no surprise she centers herself in the life of every partner and wants to desperately believe in one true final love. She's had her traumas. I do see some maturity, I do see small glimmers of humility and vulnerability in the public eye so good for her. She has a fragile ego and is an egocentric person but maybe she will keep growing. In terms of her singing and acting...I just never got it but many did obviously. No one can say she hasn't worked hard. It might be wrapped in deep insecurity and a need for validation but still, she has an iron will. But it's facing her pain and vulnerability and losses that will actually help her, paradoxically. In the public's eyes too I suspect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it was inappropriate of her to talk about the letters he supposedly. It's hard to get in this amazing love story when both were married with kids

I saw this as well. She basically talked about love letters between 2001 and 2010. They broke up in 2003 and he got together with Jen Garner and married and had kids starting in 2003. Very tacky - I’m sure John is 100% over it seems like coming out with that timeline is just JLO flaunting it.

I’m sure she will be shocked when he cheats on her though. So dumb.

It was incredibly tone deaf. She acts like Garner was just a place holder until he found his way back to her again. Did Jen even know about the letters? It creats this implication that he never loved Garner like he loves her. disrespectful!

The irony is that he had his three kids with Jen, and they’re going to be in each other’s lives forever and it’s been very clear that they have established a really good friendship. He has a lot of respect for her for doing all that she did to help him in his rehab. I think JLO knows this and drives her crazy.

Long after JLO and Ben break up again, he will still have friendship and coparenting relationship with Jen G.

But I’m sure she’ll have moved on to another athlete or actor and pour another 30 million of her own money explaining to the masses what true love is in a horrendously embarrassing documentary.

I appreciate that she finally copped to significant family mental health problems in her background because the reality of her chaotic relationship history was always in conflict with the "love" fantasies over two decades that she was projecting over and over and over again. It looked fragmented, bizarre and confusing and it always made me feel like she was full of sh*t or even worse, that she truly lacked any self awareness. Her relationship with her mother was terrible apparently and it explains in part her enormous competitiveness, particularly with women and so yea, it's no surprise she centers herself in the life of every partner and wants to desperately believe in one true final love. She's had her traumas. I do see some maturity, I do see small glimmers of humility and vulnerability in the public eye so good for her. She has a fragile ego and is an egocentric person but maybe she will keep growing. In terms of her singing and acting...I just never got it but many did obviously. No one can say she hasn't worked hard. It might be wrapped in deep insecurity and a need for validation but still, she has an iron will. But it's facing her pain and vulnerability and losses that will actually help her, paradoxically. In the public's eyes too I suspect.

Sorry, nothing will actually help her. Narcissistic personality disorder is a broke that cannot be fixed. Read about it.

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She’s not a great singer , you mean Natasha Ramos is a great singer lol

[Anonymous]

She’s a narcissist she wants attention, she thinks she’s better then everyone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All I know is that she is stunning.

Oh please!
Average looking. A 4 or 5.
Especially now.

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J Lo should’ve followed Rihannas footsteps and became a beauty or cosmetics mogul and left music alone .

Pop Music is a cruelly young genre and it is a young woman’s game.

Madonna was able to pivot to touring but J Lo doesn’t have a big fanbase willing to buy your tickets like that because she never toured or established her performing reputation early on . She actually is as good a performer as Madonna or Beyonce or Britney but during her peak when she had pop hits, she wasn’t touring at all because she was filming movies every year . The rom coms were a mistake . She should’ve built her fanbase by extensive performing or touring early on.

She had one foot in music and one foot in movies but didn’t fully commit to either as a singer/dancer or an actress and now the downside is she can’t tour in old age because she didn’t build a ticket buying audience earlier , and she can’t do rom coms as she’s aged out and that genre isn’t as popular or commercially successful as it was in the early 00s.

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She should do a workout video like Jane Fonda but to her music and do a tour doing these workouts with audience members doing the workouts with her . I know she might think such a thing is beneath her but it is a good idea worth trying and it would be a huge hit on Tiktok even if it gets mocked .

She’s known for her body and her fitness so why not capitalize off that ?

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Anonymous wrote:J Lo should’ve followed Rihannas footsteps and became a beauty or cosmetics mogul and left music alone .

Pop Music is a cruelly young genre and it is a young woman’s game.

Madonna was able to pivot to touring but J Lo doesn’t have a big fanbase willing to buy your tickets like that because she never toured or established her performing reputation early on . She actually is as good a performer as Madonna or Beyonce or Britney but during her peak when she had pop hits, she wasn’t touring at all because she was filming movies every year . The rom coms were a mistake . She should’ve built her fanbase by extensive performing or touring early on.

She had one foot in music and one foot in movies but didn’t fully commit to either as a singer/dancer or an actress and now the downside is she can’t tour in old age because she didn’t build a ticket buying audience earlier , and she can’t do rom coms as she’s aged out and that genre isn’t as popular or commercially successful as it was in the early 00s.

You make compelling points. JL wants it all. And I don't think she has failed. There are success levels beyond "failed" and "wild success." In some arenas she is a bigger hit than others. I appreciate her hard work.

There is still time for her to pivot to more of the behind the scenes/development side. Problem is she loves being the product.