LA Innocence Project takes up notorious case of convicted wife-killer Scott Peterson

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not many details yet, but I always assumed he was guilty. For the Innocence Project to get involved does that give anyone else pause to think...."hmmm maybe he is innocent?" If not Scott then the last 20 years have been wasted with any possible suspects being long gone.

https://abc7.com/scott-peterson-innocence-project-laci-murder/14337140/

The motions for DNA testing of evidence and access to other evidence have to do with the burglary across the street from Laci and Scott’s house; the theory that she witnessed the perpetrators on her way home from the dog walk and they abducted her has been in existence for years. The theory also suggests that her body was dumped in the Bay by the real killers after it was widely reported that Scott was fishing there on the day Laci disappeared.

I posted about that theory here a few years ago and people lost their minds berating and ridiculing me, so it’s interesting to see LA Innocence taking up the case as those projects don’t get involved without strong evidence of actual innocence.

If it turns out Laci’s DNA is on the mattress from the burned out can, thus Scott is innocent, how will all the people who demonized him for simply being a run of the mill philanderer going to feel?

Probably just glad he paid for his cheating with a couple decades of his life.

Burned out van, no thanks autocorrect!

You mention the theory and that you posted about it. Just curious, do you think this is what happened?

I think it’s plausible. I encourage folks to watch that recent docuseries on Hulu, or at least the final episode where investigators presented the evidence supporting the alternative theory of the case.

Laci was spotted walking her dog at the park. Her dog was later found trailing its leash outside of the yard. There was a van seen on their street that day. There is also something about the timing of when the mailman saw Laci, or saw the dog. In any case, it adds up to compelling circumstantial evidence and when you factor the timing of Laci’s disappearance and the later discovery of her body and Connor’s, it is entirely possible she was dumped in the Bay by perpetrators seeking to point the finger in the husband’s direction since his whereabouts had been reported extensively in the media.

People get hung up on this one thing so I’ll just also add: for a time some years ago - way before Laci Peterson’s case - I found myself spending some time at a forum called The Other Woman. Yes, a forum for adulterers. I stumbled on it by accident but it was a window into marriage that I was very interested to see - I was unmarried and averse at the time. Anyway my point is I heard a lot of stories about how women ended up with cheating men, and I’m sorry to tell you that it isn’t uncommon for a married man who cheats to ‘kill’ his wife for the convenience of communicating with a lover. I’m sure there is some perverse psychological thing going on there, but yeah, some cheating men claim to be widows probably just for the extra sympathy F factor it compels.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This group (the LA Innocence Project) is a spin-off group from the main, most well-known one and doesn’t necessarily have the same standards to take a case.

That doesn’t mean the LA group doesn’t have good reasons, but people are attributing extra credibility because they think “The” Innocence Project is advocating for him.

There are innocence projects all over the country, aLL spun off from the original concept, and as a rule they are very well respected and do very detailed research before even making any kind of motions in a case.

This is what makes it so easy for me to believe that the LA IP, specifically, has been hijacked by Peterson freaks.

What exactly, from a structural standpoint, is upholding the standards that have led to so many Innocence Projects being so "very well respected"? I would welcome an answer on this, esp. from someone who actually knows what the organizational relationship of the different Innocence Projects to one another is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not many details yet, but I always assumed he was guilty. For the Innocence Project to get involved does that give anyone else pause to think...."hmmm maybe he is innocent?" If not Scott then the last 20 years have been wasted with any possible suspects being long gone.

https://abc7.com/scott-peterson-innocence-project-laci-murder/14337140/

The motions for DNA testing of evidence and access to other evidence have to do with the burglary across the street from Laci and Scott’s house; the theory that she witnessed the perpetrators on her way home from the dog walk and they abducted her has been in existence for years. The theory also suggests that her body was dumped in the Bay by the real killers after it was widely reported that Scott was fishing there on the day Laci disappeared.

I posted about that theory here a few years ago and people lost their minds berating and ridiculing me, so it’s interesting to see LA Innocence taking up the case as those projects don’t get involved without strong evidence of actual innocence.

If it turns out Laci’s DNA is on the mattress from the burned out can, thus Scott is innocent, how will all the people who demonized him for simply being a run of the mill philanderer going to feel?

Probably just glad he paid for his cheating with a couple decades of his life.

Burned out van, no thanks autocorrect!

You mention the theory and that you posted about it. Just curious, do you think this is what happened?

I think it’s plausible. I encourage folks to watch that recent docuseries on Hulu, or at least the final episode where investigators presented the evidence supporting the alternative theory of the case.

Laci was spotted walking her dog at the park. Her dog was later found trailing its leash outside of the yard. There was a van seen on their street that day. There is also something about the timing of when the mailman saw Laci, or saw the dog. In any case, it adds up to compelling circumstantial evidence and when you factor the timing of Laci’s disappearance and the later discovery of her body and Connor’s, it is entirely possible she was dumped in the Bay by perpetrators seeking to point the finger in the husband’s direction since his whereabouts had been reported extensively in the media.

People get hung up on this one thing so I’ll just also add: for a time some years ago - way before Laci Peterson’s case - I found myself spending some time at a forum called The Other Woman. Yes, a forum for adulterers. I stumbled on it by accident but it was a window into marriage that I was very interested to see - I was unmarried and averse at the time. Anyway my point is I heard a lot of stories about how women ended up with cheating men, and I’m sorry to tell you that it isn’t uncommon for a married man who cheats to ‘kill’ his wife for the convenience of communicating with a lover. I’m sure there is some perverse psychological thing going on there, but yeah, some cheating men claim to be widows probably just for the extra sympathy F factor it compels.

I also should add that I am in general a misandrist and suspicious of husbands and boyfriends and exes as a rule - I’ve seen what they are capable of my whole life, including my own ‘father’, who I feared my whole childhood would someday kill my mother in a fit of rage.

I wouldn’t cross the street to piss on Scott Peterson if he was on fire, I think he was a pig of a husband. I’m not at all in the camp of googly eyed Scott Peterson fans who feel deeply his innocence.

I’m a natural born skeptic and someone who has seen the shortcomings of the criminal justice system close up - I was so troubled, I quit. I cannot imagine any reason not to test DNA evidence if it might exonerate an innocent person. It shocks my conscience when prosecutors fight so hard for convictions that might be unsound.

The Michael Morton case is one worth looking up and learning. There is a movie from 2013, An Unreal Dream: the Michael Morton Story. A man can be made to look like a murdering POS by the time cops and prosecutors and media have had their way, even when he is 100% innocent of any crime.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The burglars couldn’t take the chance of getting caught and so they killed Laci and then they dumped her body where Scott had been fishing because that information was released earlier when she was still just missing.
The police ignored the leads. He is not a saint, or even a good person really for what he did as far as having an affair, but I don’t believe that he did this. Even just watching the American nightmare documentary on Netflix has changed my view of how low the police will sometimes go to be able to pin a crime on somebody else, or ignore obvious leads.

What is the chance some random strangers committing burglary knew the exact spot a some neighbor across the street was going on an unplanned fishing trip on Christmas Eve? And said neighbor has just diy’d concrete anchors at his office and had no reason to be fishing in that area and the weather was not conducive to fishing and was also having an affair. So these burglars killed a near term pregnant women and managed to load her into their van and also on a boat to dump her without one single person seeing them and also having a air tight way to frame her husband all because they are some minor league house burglars. Really?

You’ve got the timeline all wrong, poster. You really should watch the recent docuseries on the case because it lays out exactly how this could have happened and it’s very, very plausible.

By the way DIY concrete anchors are SOP for small boat fisherman. And in the documentary series they show how difficult it would have been for Scott to take Laci out in that tiny boat and toss her over without being swamped himself, especially with anchors attached to her. The physics don’t work out.

Also there is evidence of jailhouse phone calls between suspects which suggest knowledge of Laci’s death and attempts to cover it up.

For the record I’m a former prosecutor and former defense attorney so I bring that perspective- I’ve also been a follower of actual innocence exonerations for decades, since before I attended law school. I’m a strong supporter of conviction review units and innocence projects because I know firsthand that mistakes happen in the criminal justice system and sometimes law enforcement has tunnel vision from day one and prosecutors follow through with the mistakes of LEOs.

We should all want justice so we should all support the DNA testing of evidence related to Laci’s case using the most sophisticated technology at our disposal. If her blood is on the mattress from the burned out van, then that’s where she and Conor died and Scott is actually innocent. Still a pig of a husband, but not a murderer.

Him being able to dispose of his wife’s body by boat is more likely that of house burglars killing a full term pregnant woman because she “might” have seen them burgling. That’s a huge leap to double murder from theft especially when 6 out of 10 victims are killed by their intimate partner.
How long between release of Scott’s whereabouts to the news before her body showed up? How long did the doctors estimate it would take to dissolve away her head, hands and feet and also expose the fetus inside her belly? Does that timeline line up with being dumped only after the news about Scott or she had to be in the water since Christmas Eve?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The burglars couldn’t take the chance of getting caught and so they killed Laci and then they dumped her body where Scott had been fishing because that information was released earlier when she was still just missing.
The police ignored the leads. He is not a saint, or even a good person really for what he did as far as having an affair, but I don’t believe that he did this. Even just watching the American nightmare documentary on Netflix has changed my view of how low the police will sometimes go to be able to pin a crime on somebody else, or ignore obvious leads.

What is the chance some random strangers committing burglary knew the exact spot a some neighbor across the street was going on an unplanned fishing trip on Christmas Eve? And said neighbor has just diy’d concrete anchors at his office and had no reason to be fishing in that area and the weather was not conducive to fishing and was also having an affair. So these burglars killed a near term pregnant women and managed to load her into their van and also on a boat to dump her without one single person seeing them and also having a air tight way to frame her husband all because they are some minor league house burglars. Really?

You’ve got the timeline all wrong, poster. You really should watch the recent docuseries on the case because it lays out exactly how this could have happened and it’s very, very plausible.

By the way DIY concrete anchors are SOP for small boat fisherman. And in the documentary series they show how difficult it would have been for Scott to take Laci out in that tiny boat and toss her over without being swamped himself, especially with anchors attached to her. The physics don’t work out.

Also there is evidence of jailhouse phone calls between suspects which suggest knowledge of Laci’s death and attempts to cover it up.

For the record I’m a former prosecutor and former defense attorney so I bring that perspective- I’ve also been a follower of actual innocence exonerations for decades, since before I attended law school. I’m a strong supporter of conviction review units and innocence projects because I know firsthand that mistakes happen in the criminal justice system and sometimes law enforcement has tunnel vision from day one and prosecutors follow through with the mistakes of LEOs.

We should all want justice so we should all support the DNA testing of evidence related to Laci’s case using the most sophisticated technology at our disposal. If her blood is on the mattress from the burned out van, then that’s where she and Conor died and Scott is actually innocent. Still a pig of a husband, but not a murderer.

Him being able to dispose of his wife’s body by boat is more likely that of house burglars killing a full term pregnant woman because she “might” have seen them burgling. That’s a huge leap to double murder from theft especially when 6 out of 10 victims are killed by their intimate partner.
How long between release of Scott’s whereabouts to the news before her body showed up? How long did the doctors estimate it would take to dissolve away her head, hands and feet and also expose the fetus inside her belly? Does that timeline line up with being dumped only after the news about Scott or she had to be in the water since Christmas Eve?

In the recent docuseries they showed an experiment done with the exact size boat as Scott’s but which judge would not allow presented in court. It established how nearly impossible it would be for Scott to have single handedly disposed of Laci’s body out of his little fishing boat without ending up in the Bay himself.

Laci and Connor washed ashore FOUR MONTHS after going missing. Scott’s whereabouts were discussed in the media within hours or at most a few days of her being announced as missing. There is nothing in the physical evidence to suggest she couldn’t have been dumped by other perpetrators.

By the way it isn’t all that difficult for thieves to borrow a powerboat from a marina - happens fairly frequently in fact, ~4500 times a year.

[Anonymous]

So the defense said it was nearly impossible for him to dump her from his boat? That certainly changes my perspective.

You’ve even stated it was “all Over the news” so during the time it was “all Over the news” someone else steals a Boat and dumps her body in the key area of interest and no one sees anything or reports their boat has been stolen at any point. And her body conveniently stays submerged and hidden in that area of interest for a minimum of 3 months before washing ashore…. With concrete bags also washing ashore nearby….. and her husband had just made some concrete weights for his boat but that’s just coincidence. Riiiiiight. You likely believe Brian Landry was innocent too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not many details yet, but I always assumed he was guilty. For the Innocence Project to get involved does that give anyone else pause to think...."hmmm maybe he is innocent?" If not Scott then the last 20 years have been wasted with any possible suspects being long gone.

https://abc7.com/scott-peterson-innocence-project-laci-murder/14337140/

The motions for DNA testing of evidence and access to other evidence have to do with the burglary across the street from Laci and Scott’s house; the theory that she witnessed the perpetrators on her way home from the dog walk and they abducted her has been in existence for years. The theory also suggests that her body was dumped in the Bay by the real killers after it was widely reported that Scott was fishing there on the day Laci disappeared.

I posted about that theory here a few years ago and people lost their minds berating and ridiculing me, so it’s interesting to see LA Innocence taking up the case as those projects don’t get involved without strong evidence of actual innocence.

If it turns out Laci’s DNA is on the mattress from the burned out can, thus Scott is innocent, how will all the people who demonized him for simply being a run of the mill philanderer going to feel?

Probably just glad he paid for his cheating with a couple decades of his life.

Burned out van, no thanks autocorrect!

You mention the theory and that you posted about it. Just curious, do you think this is what happened?

I think it’s plausible. I encourage folks to watch that recent docuseries on Hulu, or at least the final episode where investigators presented the evidence supporting the alternative theory of the case.

Laci was spotted walking her dog at the park. Her dog was later found trailing its leash outside of the yard. There was a van seen on their street that day. There is also something about the timing of when the mailman saw Laci, or saw the dog. In any case, it adds up to compelling circumstantial evidence and when you factor the timing of Laci’s disappearance and the later discovery of her body and Connor’s, it is entirely possible she was dumped in the Bay by perpetrators seeking to point the finger in the husband’s direction since his whereabouts had been reported extensively in the media.

People get hung up on this one thing so I’ll just also add: for a time some years ago - way before Laci Peterson’s case - I found myself spending some time at a forum called The Other Woman. Yes, a forum for adulterers. I stumbled on it by accident but it was a window into marriage that I was very interested to see - I was unmarried and averse at the time. Anyway my point is I heard a lot of stories about how women ended up with cheating men, and I’m sorry to tell you that it isn’t uncommon for a married man who cheats to ‘kill’ his wife for the convenience of communicating with a lover. I’m sure there is some perverse psychological thing going on there, but yeah, some cheating men claim to be widows probably just for the extra sympathy F factor it compels.

The problem with this theory is that burglars don't just decide to add abduction to an existing crime.

[Anonymous]

I have to assume the people who believe the burglar murder theory are the same kinds of people who fall for phone scams where the “IRS” tells them to pay off their tax debts by buying gift cards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The burglars couldn’t take the chance of getting caught and so they killed Laci and then they dumped her body where Scott had been fishing because that information was released earlier when she was still just missing.
The police ignored the leads. He is not a saint, or even a good person really for what he did as far as having an affair, but I don’t believe that he did this. Even just watching the American nightmare documentary on Netflix has changed my view of how low the police will sometimes go to be able to pin a crime on somebody else, or ignore obvious leads.

What is the chance some random strangers committing burglary knew the exact spot a some neighbor across the street was going on an unplanned fishing trip on Christmas Eve? And said neighbor has just diy’d concrete anchors at his office and had no reason to be fishing in that area and the weather was not conducive to fishing and was also having an affair. So these burglars killed a near term pregnant women and managed to load her into their van and also on a boat to dump her without one single person seeing them and also having a air tight way to frame her husband all because they are some minor league house burglars. Really?

You’ve got the timeline all wrong, poster. You really should watch the recent docuseries on the case because it lays out exactly how this could have happened and it’s very, very plausible.

By the way DIY concrete anchors are SOP for small boat fisherman. And in the documentary series they show how difficult it would have been for Scott to take Laci out in that tiny boat and toss her over without being swamped himself, especially with anchors attached to her. The physics don’t work out.

Also there is evidence of jailhouse phone calls between suspects which suggest knowledge of Laci’s death and attempts to cover it up.

For the record I’m a former prosecutor and former defense attorney so I bring that perspective- I’ve also been a follower of actual innocence exonerations for decades, since before I attended law school. I’m a strong supporter of conviction review units and innocence projects because I know firsthand that mistakes happen in the criminal justice system and sometimes law enforcement has tunnel vision from day one and prosecutors follow through with the mistakes of LEOs.

We should all want justice so we should all support the DNA testing of evidence related to Laci’s case using the most sophisticated technology at our disposal. If her blood is on the mattress from the burned out van, then that’s where she and Conor died and Scott is actually innocent. Still a pig of a husband, but not a murderer.

Him being able to dispose of his wife’s body by boat is more likely that of house burglars killing a full term pregnant woman because she “might” have seen them burgling. That’s a huge leap to double murder from theft especially when 6 out of 10 victims are killed by their intimate partner.
How long between release of Scott’s whereabouts to the news before her body showed up? How long did the doctors estimate it would take to dissolve away her head, hands and feet and also expose the fetus inside her belly? Does that timeline line up with being dumped only after the news about Scott or she had to be in the water since Christmas Eve?

In the recent docuseries they showed an experiment done with the exact size boat as Scott’s but which judge would not allow presented in court. It established how nearly impossible it would be for Scott to have single handedly disposed of Laci’s body out of his little fishing boat without ending up in the Bay himself.

Laci and Connor washed ashore FOUR MONTHS after going missing. Scott’s whereabouts were discussed in the media within hours or at most a few days of her being announced as missing. There is nothing in the physical evidence to suggest she couldn’t have been dumped by other perpetrators.

By the way it isn’t all that difficult for thieves to borrow a powerboat from a marina - happens fairly frequently in fact, ~4500 times a year.

So Peterson could have borrowed a powerboat instead of using his boat. Does that seem more likely than a random burglar using that marina to dispose of a body?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not many details yet, but I always assumed he was guilty. For the Innocence Project to get involved does that give anyone else pause to think...."hmmm maybe he is innocent?" If not Scott then the last 20 years have been wasted with any possible suspects being long gone.

https://abc7.com/scott-peterson-innocence-project-laci-murder/14337140/

The motions for DNA testing of evidence and access to other evidence have to do with the burglary across the street from Laci and Scott’s house; the theory that she witnessed the perpetrators on her way home from the dog walk and they abducted her has been in existence for years. The theory also suggests that her body was dumped in the Bay by the real killers after it was widely reported that Scott was fishing there on the day Laci disappeared.

I posted about that theory here a few years ago and people lost their minds berating and ridiculing me, so it’s interesting to see LA Innocence taking up the case as those projects don’t get involved without strong evidence of actual innocence.

If it turns out Laci’s DNA is on the mattress from the burned out can, thus Scott is innocent, how will all the people who demonized him for simply being a run of the mill philanderer going to feel?

Probably just glad he paid for his cheating with a couple decades of his life.

Burned out van, no thanks autocorrect!

You mention the theory and that you posted about it. Just curious, do you think this is what happened?

I think it’s plausible. I encourage folks to watch that recent docuseries on Hulu, or at least the final episode where investigators presented the evidence supporting the alternative theory of the case.

Laci was spotted walking her dog at the park. Her dog was later found trailing its leash outside of the yard. There was a van seen on their street that day. There is also something about the timing of when the mailman saw Laci, or saw the dog. In any case, it adds up to compelling circumstantial evidence and when you factor the timing of Laci’s disappearance and the later discovery of her body and Connor’s, it is entirely possible she was dumped in the Bay by perpetrators seeking to point the finger in the husband’s direction since his whereabouts had been reported extensively in the media.

People get hung up on this one thing so I’ll just also add: for a time some years ago - way before Laci Peterson’s case - I found myself spending some time at a forum called The Other Woman. Yes, a forum for adulterers. I stumbled on it by accident but it was a window into marriage that I was very interested to see - I was unmarried and averse at the time. Anyway my point is I heard a lot of stories about how women ended up with cheating men, and I’m sorry to tell you that it isn’t uncommon for a married man who cheats to ‘kill’ his wife for the convenience of communicating with a lover. I’m sure there is some perverse psychological thing going on there, but yeah, some cheating men claim to be widows probably just for the extra sympathy F factor it compels.

I also should add that I am in general a misandrist and suspicious of husbands and boyfriends and exes as a rule - I’ve seen what they are capable of my whole life, including my own ‘father’, who I feared my whole childhood would someday kill my mother in a fit of rage.

I wouldn’t cross the street to piss on Scott Peterson if he was on fire, I think he was a pig of a husband. I’m not at all in the camp of googly eyed Scott Peterson fans who feel deeply his innocence.

I’m a natural born skeptic and someone who has seen the shortcomings of the criminal justice system close up - I was so troubled, I quit. I cannot imagine any reason not to test DNA evidence if it might exonerate an innocent person. It shocks my conscience when prosecutors fight so hard for convictions that might be unsound.

The Michael Morton case is one worth looking up and learning. There is a movie from 2013, An Unreal Dream: the Michael Morton Story. A man can be made to look like a murdering POS by the time cops and prosecutors and media have had their way, even when he is 100% innocent of any crime.

Because the justice system isn't perfect, all outcomes are unreliable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not many details yet, but I always assumed he was guilty. For the Innocence Project to get involved does that give anyone else pause to think...."hmmm maybe he is innocent?" If not Scott then the last 20 years have been wasted with any possible suspects being long gone.

https://abc7.com/scott-peterson-innocence-project-laci-murder/14337140/

The motions for DNA testing of evidence and access to other evidence have to do with the burglary across the street from Laci and Scott’s house; the theory that she witnessed the perpetrators on her way home from the dog walk and they abducted her has been in existence for years. The theory also suggests that her body was dumped in the Bay by the real killers after it was widely reported that Scott was fishing there on the day Laci disappeared.

I posted about that theory here a few years ago and people lost their minds berating and ridiculing me, so it’s interesting to see LA Innocence taking up the case as those projects don’t get involved without strong evidence of actual innocence.

If it turns out Laci’s DNA is on the mattress from the burned out can, thus Scott is innocent, how will all the people who demonized him for simply being a run of the mill philanderer going to feel?

Probably just glad he paid for his cheating with a couple decades of his life.

Burned out van, no thanks autocorrect!

You mention the theory and that you posted about it. Just curious, do you think this is what happened?

I think it’s plausible. I encourage folks to watch that recent docuseries on Hulu, or at least the final episode where investigators presented the evidence supporting the alternative theory of the case.

Laci was spotted walking her dog at the park. Her dog was later found trailing its leash outside of the yard. There was a van seen on their street that day. There is also something about the timing of when the mailman saw Laci, or saw the dog. In any case, it adds up to compelling circumstantial evidence and when you factor the timing of Laci’s disappearance and the later discovery of her body and Connor’s, it is entirely possible she was dumped in the Bay by perpetrators seeking to point the finger in the husband’s direction since his whereabouts had been reported extensively in the media.

People get hung up on this one thing so I’ll just also add: for a time some years ago - way before Laci Peterson’s case - I found myself spending some time at a forum called The Other Woman. Yes, a forum for adulterers. I stumbled on it by accident but it was a window into marriage that I was very interested to see - I was unmarried and averse at the time. Anyway my point is I heard a lot of stories about how women ended up with cheating men, and I’m sorry to tell you that it isn’t uncommon for a married man who cheats to ‘kill’ his wife for the convenience of communicating with a lover. I’m sure there is some perverse psychological thing going on there, but yeah, some cheating men claim to be widows probably just for the extra sympathy F factor it compels.

I also should add that I am in general a misandrist and suspicious of husbands and boyfriends and exes as a rule - I’ve seen what they are capable of my whole life, including my own ‘father’, who I feared my whole childhood would someday kill my mother in a fit of rage.

I wouldn’t cross the street to piss on Scott Peterson if he was on fire, I think he was a pig of a husband. I’m not at all in the camp of googly eyed Scott Peterson fans who feel deeply his innocence.

I’m a natural born skeptic and someone who has seen the shortcomings of the criminal justice system close up - I was so troubled, I quit. I cannot imagine any reason not to test DNA evidence if it might exonerate an innocent person. It shocks my conscience when prosecutors fight so hard for convictions that might be unsound.

The Michael Morton case is one worth looking up and learning. There is a movie from 2013, An Unreal Dream: the Michael Morton Story. A man can be made to look like a murdering POS by the time cops and prosecutors and media have had their way, even when he is 100% innocent of any crime.

Because the justice system isn't perfect, all outcomes are unreliable?

DP. Yes, that means outcomes are unreliable, essentially by definition. You can't rely on the justice system to always get it right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not many details yet, but I always assumed he was guilty. For the Innocence Project to get involved does that give anyone else pause to think...."hmmm maybe he is innocent?" If not Scott then the last 20 years have been wasted with any possible suspects being long gone.

https://abc7.com/scott-peterson-innocence-project-laci-murder/14337140/

The motions for DNA testing of evidence and access to other evidence have to do with the burglary across the street from Laci and Scott’s house; the theory that she witnessed the perpetrators on her way home from the dog walk and they abducted her has been in existence for years. The theory also suggests that her body was dumped in the Bay by the real killers after it was widely reported that Scott was fishing there on the day Laci disappeared.

I posted about that theory here a few years ago and people lost their minds berating and ridiculing me, so it’s interesting to see LA Innocence taking up the case as those projects don’t get involved without strong evidence of actual innocence.

If it turns out Laci’s DNA is on the mattress from the burned out can, thus Scott is innocent, how will all the people who demonized him for simply being a run of the mill philanderer going to feel?

Probably just glad he paid for his cheating with a couple decades of his life.

Burned out van, no thanks autocorrect!

You mention the theory and that you posted about it. Just curious, do you think this is what happened?

I think it’s plausible. I encourage folks to watch that recent docuseries on Hulu, or at least the final episode where investigators presented the evidence supporting the alternative theory of the case.

Laci was spotted walking her dog at the park. Her dog was later found trailing its leash outside of the yard. There was a van seen on their street that day. There is also something about the timing of when the mailman saw Laci, or saw the dog. In any case, it adds up to compelling circumstantial evidence and when you factor the timing of Laci’s disappearance and the later discovery of her body and Connor’s, it is entirely possible she was dumped in the Bay by perpetrators seeking to point the finger in the husband’s direction since his whereabouts had been reported extensively in the media.

People get hung up on this one thing so I’ll just also add: for a time some years ago - way before Laci Peterson’s case - I found myself spending some time at a forum called The Other Woman. Yes, a forum for adulterers. I stumbled on it by accident but it was a window into marriage that I was very interested to see - I was unmarried and averse at the time. Anyway my point is I heard a lot of stories about how women ended up with cheating men, and I’m sorry to tell you that it isn’t uncommon for a married man who cheats to ‘kill’ his wife for the convenience of communicating with a lover. I’m sure there is some perverse psychological thing going on there, but yeah, some cheating men claim to be widows probably just for the extra sympathy F factor it compels.

I also should add that I am in general a misandrist and suspicious of husbands and boyfriends and exes as a rule - I’ve seen what they are capable of my whole life, including my own ‘father’, who I feared my whole childhood would someday kill my mother in a fit of rage.

I wouldn’t cross the street to piss on Scott Peterson if he was on fire, I think he was a pig of a husband. I’m not at all in the camp of googly eyed Scott Peterson fans who feel deeply his innocence.

I’m a natural born skeptic and someone who has seen the shortcomings of the criminal justice system close up - I was so troubled, I quit. I cannot imagine any reason not to test DNA evidence if it might exonerate an innocent person. It shocks my conscience when prosecutors fight so hard for convictions that might be unsound.

The Michael Morton case is one worth looking up and learning. There is a movie from 2013, An Unreal Dream: the Michael Morton Story. A man can be made to look like a murdering POS by the time cops and prosecutors and media have had their way, even when he is 100% innocent of any crime.

Because the justice system isn't perfect, all outcomes are unreliable?

DP. Yes, that means outcomes are unreliable, essentially by definition. You can't rely on the justice system to always get it right.

So, Trump is probably innocent?

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He was also convicted for the murder of his unborn son, Connor. I mean fetus, Connor. Yes. Fetus.

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Anonymous wrote:Not many details yet, but I always assumed he was guilty. For the Innocence Project to get involved does that give anyone else pause to think...."hmmm maybe he is innocent?" If not Scott then the last 20 years have been wasted with any possible suspects being long gone.

https://abc7.com/scott-peterson-innocence-project-laci-murder/14337140/

The motions for DNA testing of evidence and access to other evidence have to do with the burglary across the street from Laci and Scott’s house; the theory that she witnessed the perpetrators on her way home from the dog walk and they abducted her has been in existence for years. The theory also suggests that her body was dumped in the Bay by the real killers after it was widely reported that Scott was fishing there on the day Laci disappeared.

I posted about that theory here a few years ago and people lost their minds berating and ridiculing me, so it’s interesting to see LA Innocence taking up the case as those projects don’t get involved without strong evidence of actual innocence.

If it turns out Laci’s DNA is on the mattress from the burned out can, thus Scott is innocent, how will all the people who demonized him for simply being a run of the mill philanderer going to feel?

Probably just glad he paid for his cheating with a couple decades of his life.

Burned out van, no thanks autocorrect!

You mention the theory and that you posted about it. Just curious, do you think this is what happened?

I think it’s plausible. I encourage folks to watch that recent docuseries on Hulu, or at least the final episode where investigators presented the evidence supporting the alternative theory of the case.

Laci was spotted walking her dog at the park. Her dog was later found trailing its leash outside of the yard. There was a van seen on their street that day. There is also something about the timing of when the mailman saw Laci, or saw the dog. In any case, it adds up to compelling circumstantial evidence and when you factor the timing of Laci’s disappearance and the later discovery of her body and Connor’s, it is entirely possible she was dumped in the Bay by perpetrators seeking to point the finger in the husband’s direction since his whereabouts had been reported extensively in the media.

People get hung up on this one thing so I’ll just also add: for a time some years ago - way before Laci Peterson’s case - I found myself spending some time at a forum called The Other Woman. Yes, a forum for adulterers. I stumbled on it by accident but it was a window into marriage that I was very interested to see - I was unmarried and averse at the time. Anyway my point is I heard a lot of stories about how women ended up with cheating men, and I’m sorry to tell you that it isn’t uncommon for a married man who cheats to ‘kill’ his wife for the convenience of communicating with a lover. I’m sure there is some perverse psychological thing going on there, but yeah, some cheating men claim to be widows probably just for the extra sympathy F factor it compels.

I also should add that I am in general a misandrist and suspicious of husbands and boyfriends and exes as a rule - I’ve seen what they are capable of my whole life, including my own ‘father’, who I feared my whole childhood would someday kill my mother in a fit of rage.

I wouldn’t cross the street to piss on Scott Peterson if he was on fire, I think he was a pig of a husband. I’m not at all in the camp of googly eyed Scott Peterson fans who feel deeply his innocence.

I’m a natural born skeptic and someone who has seen the shortcomings of the criminal justice system close up - I was so troubled, I quit. I cannot imagine any reason not to test DNA evidence if it might exonerate an innocent person. It shocks my conscience when prosecutors fight so hard for convictions that might be unsound.

The Michael Morton case is one worth looking up and learning. There is a movie from 2013, An Unreal Dream: the Michael Morton Story. A man can be made to look like a murdering POS by the time cops and prosecutors and media have had their way, even when he is 100% innocent of any crime.

Because the justice system isn't perfect, all outcomes are unreliable?

I didn't say that, but nice straw man.

When there is DNA evidence untested in a case with plausible alternative theory of the crime and numerous pieces that fit that theory, the DNA evidence should be tested, period. Prosecutors who fight such testing under the guise of preserving the integrity of convictions are undermining public faith in the criminal justice system.

The hundreds of actual innocence exonerations in recent decades, many of which have long sordid histories of law enforcement and prosecutors fighting every step of the way to be an obstacle to finding the truth, are eroding public faith in the system every bit as much as the egregious actions of some law enforcement officers which we see on a nearly weekly basis on our TVs and phones.

What many in the public don't even seem to grasp is that prosecutors have an ethical obligation to pursue justice, not merely convictions. However most prosecutors are dogged about convictions at any cost, including far too many who engage in misconduct to get the win, never mind the truth. As a result, there are a lot more actually innocent people in prison that any of y'all want to believe.

Test the DNA. Hopefully there is zero connection to Laci, which would put to rest all notions of Peterson's innocence and we could all stop talking about him forever.

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Anonymous wrote:Not many details yet, but I always assumed he was guilty. For the Innocence Project to get involved does that give anyone else pause to think...."hmmm maybe he is innocent?" If not Scott then the last 20 years have been wasted with any possible suspects being long gone.

https://abc7.com/scott-peterson-innocence-project-laci-murder/14337140/

The motions for DNA testing of evidence and access to other evidence have to do with the burglary across the street from Laci and Scott’s house; the theory that she witnessed the perpetrators on her way home from the dog walk and they abducted her has been in existence for years. The theory also suggests that her body was dumped in the Bay by the real killers after it was widely reported that Scott was fishing there on the day Laci disappeared.

I posted about that theory here a few years ago and people lost their minds berating and ridiculing me, so it’s interesting to see LA Innocence taking up the case as those projects don’t get involved without strong evidence of actual innocence.

If it turns out Laci’s DNA is on the mattress from the burned out can, thus Scott is innocent, how will all the people who demonized him for simply being a run of the mill philanderer going to feel?

Probably just glad he paid for his cheating with a couple decades of his life.

Burned out van, no thanks autocorrect!

You mention the theory and that you posted about it. Just curious, do you think this is what happened?

I think it’s plausible. I encourage folks to watch that recent docuseries on Hulu, or at least the final episode where investigators presented the evidence supporting the alternative theory of the case.

Laci was spotted walking her dog at the park. Her dog was later found trailing its leash outside of the yard. There was a van seen on their street that day. There is also something about the timing of when the mailman saw Laci, or saw the dog. In any case, it adds up to compelling circumstantial evidence and when you factor the timing of Laci’s disappearance and the later discovery of her body and Connor’s, it is entirely possible she was dumped in the Bay by perpetrators seeking to point the finger in the husband’s direction since his whereabouts had been reported extensively in the media.

People get hung up on this one thing so I’ll just also add: for a time some years ago - way before Laci Peterson’s case - I found myself spending some time at a forum called The Other Woman. Yes, a forum for adulterers. I stumbled on it by accident but it was a window into marriage that I was very interested to see - I was unmarried and averse at the time. Anyway my point is I heard a lot of stories about how women ended up with cheating men, and I’m sorry to tell you that it isn’t uncommon for a married man who cheats to ‘kill’ his wife for the convenience of communicating with a lover. I’m sure there is some perverse psychological thing going on there, but yeah, some cheating men claim to be widows probably just for the extra sympathy F factor it compels.

The problem with this theory is that burglars don't just decide to add abduction to an existing crime.

You speak as someone entirely naive of criminal behavior. Again, as someone who has spent decades working in the system, I have seen all kinds of horrific crime arising out of all kinds of circumstances often with zero logic involved.

The Modesto area where Scott and Laci lived is well known for having serious issues with meth, lots of tweakers criminals running around. Tweakers do things that defy reason, and snatching a pregnant woman who saw a couple of tweaker burglars leaving a break-in is actually well within the realm of conceivable for anyone who has worked in the system and seen the random human savagery close up.