Is the electric Rivian SUV the current “it” car?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but most roads are designed to take the weight of heavy trucks...UPS trucks weigh anywhere from 16-24 lbs and roam our suburban streets.

As for the safety of other drivers, if any SUV smashes into a sedan, the advantage will always be with the SUV, no matter the weight.

And the Rivian is right in there with plenty of other trucks that people see around:

Toyota Tacoma: GVWR = 5,600 lbs
Ford Ranger: GVWR = 6,050 lbs
Nissan Frontier: GVWR = 6,012 lbs
Ford F-150 Hybrid: GVWR = 7,350 lbs
Toyota Tundra Hybrid: GVWR = 7,660 lbs
Rivian R1T: GVWR = 8,532 lbs
Nissan Titan XD: GVWR = 8,800 lbs
Chevy Silverado 2500: GVWR = 10,850 lbs

The point is...what is YOUR point about the weight?

Except there are millions of more passenger cars than big rigs, and freight trucks aren't allowed to drive all throughout neighbors and many local roads.

And this might shock you, but the Rivian + Nissan Titan + Silverado are all stupid vehicles. It's possible that multiple bad vehicles can exist simultaneously.

Are you really this dim?

Oooh. Name calling. Awesome. No...we don't have big rigs on town streets, but pickups, UPS, Amazon trucks, construction vehicles, trash trucks are all pretty high volume. The weight of a rivian, all like 5 on the road right now, is inconsequential.

I am still not seeing your point. You're stating a fact without context and then going on to insults. Leads me to believe you don't have an argument?

[Anonymous]

Apparently there’s a sh#t ton of inventory:

R1 Inventory Is Shocking

If you go and check the R1 S & T inventory on their website it just keeps scrolling and showing more with no end in sight. It's shocking. Even the SUV is not selling. I heard from sources they had to buy parking from adjacent factory/office to store these inventory. I was bullish but these cars are not selling. And because stocks are ripping it doesn't look like rate cuts are coming soon. It's going to be a blood bath.

[https://rivian.com/configurations/list?SORT=Featured&MODEL=R1T](https://rivian.com/configurations/list?SORT=Featured&MODEL=R1T)

[https://rivian.com/configurations/list?SORT=Featured&MODEL=R1S](https://rivian.com/configurations/list?SORT=Featured&MODEL=R1S)

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[Anonymous]

I just pre-ordered the R2 today, mostly to piss off the "asinine" poster here. It'll also look nice next to our R1S.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but most roads are designed to take the weight of heavy trucks...UPS trucks weigh anywhere from 16-24 lbs and roam our suburban streets.

As for the safety of other drivers, if any SUV smashes into a sedan, the advantage will always be with the SUV, no matter the weight.

And the Rivian is right in there with plenty of other trucks that people see around:

Toyota Tacoma: GVWR = 5,600 lbs
Ford Ranger: GVWR = 6,050 lbs
Nissan Frontier: GVWR = 6,012 lbs
Ford F-150 Hybrid: GVWR = 7,350 lbs
Toyota Tundra Hybrid: GVWR = 7,660 lbs
Rivian R1T: GVWR = 8,532 lbs
Nissan Titan XD: GVWR = 8,800 lbs
Chevy Silverado 2500: GVWR = 10,850 lbs

The point is...what is YOUR point about the weight?

Those are max gross weights. Most vehicles don’t run at max gross weight all the time. The Silverado 2500 has a 3,000+ lb payload capacity. Empty it’s under 7,000 lbs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just pre-ordered the R2 today, mostly to piss off the "asinine" poster here. It'll also look nice next to our R1S.

NP and wow. Do you make all your decisions based on DCUM?

I personally think it's so fugly it could never be the current "it" car. I drive a different, non-Tesla EV.

[Anonymous]

I just saw the SUV and loved it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They're too big??? Please. I live amongst giant 2 ton trucks in an equestrian paradise. Some people even have horse trucks with the fronts of semi trucks, and regular families drive Excursions. And they are NOT environmentally friendly and spew black smoke out of smoke stacks on top. Get real!

Meh. I ride. And the previous owner of my Saab station wagon (since gone to Saab heaven) used it to tow their horse. You don't need Excursion bomb cars even in equestrian paradise, in fact that's embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're too big??? Please. I live amongst giant 2 ton trucks in an equestrian paradise. Some people even have horse trucks with the fronts of semi trucks, and regular families drive Excursions. And they are NOT environmentally friendly and spew black smoke out of smoke stacks on top. Get real!

Meh. I ride. And the previous owner of my Saab station wagon (since gone to Saab heaven) used it to tow their horse. You don't need Excursion bomb cars even in equestrian paradise, in fact that's embarrassing.

I also used to ride, and trailer.

Had a aluminum 2-axle Equi single stall trailer with tack nook up front, for my a draft-cross gelding. He was maybe 1,100lbs

So trailer was ~2,800, 1100 of horse, and probably ~300-400 lbs of tack gear, feed, hay, water, misc stuff …. So figure ~4,500 lbs total.

That a single stall lightweight aluminum trailer, just about the lightest set up you can get for trailering a horse.

That’s wayyyyyyyyyy over the tow rating for a Saab. In fact it weighs about 1,000 lbs more than the car itself, which makes it crazy dangerous unstable.

You need a minimum of a half-ton pick up or full-size SUV (Tahoe, Suburban, Expedition, Wagoneer, Sequoia, ect) to tow even a single stall safely. You’d be insane to tow a horse trailer with a Saab wagon. And it’s irresponsible to risk the safety of your horse like that, too.

If this even happened at all and you’re not just some anti-SUV/truck troll.

[Anonymous]

I drive a non Tesla EV. I love the Rivian. I’m never going to buy one until I think the company will outlast my car, but I really like them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're too big??? Please. I live amongst giant 2 ton trucks in an equestrian paradise. Some people even have horse trucks with the fronts of semi trucks, and regular families drive Excursions. And they are NOT environmentally friendly and spew black smoke out of smoke stacks on top. Get real!

Meh. I ride. And the previous owner of my Saab station wagon (since gone to Saab heaven) used it to tow their horse. You don't need Excursion bomb cars even in equestrian paradise, in fact that's embarrassing.

DP who also lives in equestrian paradise. I rarely even see small pick up trucks or SUVs pulling horse trailers. Most are big pick ups, many are dualies with goosenecks. No saab pulled a horse trailer unless it had a shetland pony in an overgrown dog kennel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're too big??? Please. I live amongst giant 2 ton trucks in an equestrian paradise. Some people even have horse trucks with the fronts of semi trucks, and regular families drive Excursions. And they are NOT environmentally friendly and spew black smoke out of smoke stacks on top. Get real!

Meh. I ride. And the previous owner of my Saab station wagon (since gone to Saab heaven) used it to tow their horse. You don't need Excursion bomb cars even in equestrian paradise, in fact that's embarrassing.

I also used to ride, and trailer.

Had a aluminum 2-axle Equi single stall trailer with tack nook up front, for my a draft-cross gelding. He was maybe 1,100lbs

So trailer was ~2,800, 1100 of horse, and probably ~300-400 lbs of tack gear, feed, hay, water, misc stuff …. So figure ~4,500 lbs total.

That a single stall lightweight aluminum trailer, just about the lightest set up you can get for trailering a horse.

That’s wayyyyyyyyyy over the tow rating for a Saab. In fact it weighs about 1,000 lbs more than the car itself, which makes it crazy dangerous unstable.

You need a minimum of a half-ton pick up or full-size SUV (Tahoe, Suburban, Expedition, Wagoneer, Sequoia, ect) to tow even a single stall safely. You’d be insane to tow a horse trailer with a Saab wagon. And it’s irresponsible to risk the safety of your horse like that, too.

If this even happened at all and you’re not just some anti-SUV/truck troll.

Well the people who sold me the Saab (because it wasn't stick shift was his reason) said they towed a horse in a trailer. Maybe it was a pony, it was his daughter's. But still. You can believe it or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're too big??? Please. I live amongst giant 2 ton trucks in an equestrian paradise. Some people even have horse trucks with the fronts of semi trucks, and regular families drive Excursions. And they are NOT environmentally friendly and spew black smoke out of smoke stacks on top. Get real!

Meh. I ride. And the previous owner of my Saab station wagon (since gone to Saab heaven) used it to tow their horse. You don't need Excursion bomb cars even in equestrian paradise, in fact that's embarrassing.

I also used to ride, and trailer.

Had a aluminum 2-axle Equi single stall trailer with tack nook up front, for my a draft-cross gelding. He was maybe 1,100lbs

So trailer was ~2,800, 1100 of horse, and probably ~300-400 lbs of tack gear, feed, hay, water, misc stuff …. So figure ~4,500 lbs total.

That a single stall lightweight aluminum trailer, just about the lightest set up you can get for trailering a horse.

That’s wayyyyyyyyyy over the tow rating for a Saab. In fact it weighs about 1,000 lbs more than the car itself, which makes it crazy dangerous unstable.

You need a minimum of a half-ton pick up or full-size SUV (Tahoe, Suburban, Expedition, Wagoneer, Sequoia, ect) to tow even a single stall safely. You’d be insane to tow a horse trailer with a Saab wagon. And it’s irresponsible to risk the safety of your horse like that, too.

If this even happened at all and you’re not just some anti-SUV/truck troll.

Well the people who sold me the Saab (because it wasn't stick shift was his reason) said they towed a horse in a trailer. Maybe it was a pony, it was his daughter's. But still. You can believe it or not.

You tried to imply that you were familiar with the equestrian lifestyle, and that you were around other horse people who all thought it was “embarrassing” to use full size pick ups to tow horse trailers with. That was definitely the vibe of your post.

Then you got called out by at least two posters who DO actually ride and trailer their horses, and know who can’t tow a horse trailer with a little Saab station wagon, and say you need a BIG truck, and now you’re backpedaling.


Go away.

[Anonymous]

Lots of quality and reliability issues. Hard pass.

[Anonymous]

It’s still douchey to drive giant cars. Gross.