WaPo: H Street birth to death

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we repeal the MJ law? I am assuming that what can be passed by referendum can also be repealed?
The law has not been respected or enforced as written, so IMO its invalid.

Get real. Legal Cannabis is not a threat to law and order. Illegal black markets are. DC has an unregulated market because of anti-cannabis crusaders just like yourself. Andy Harris of MD blocked the effective implementation of DC cannabis law. Cannabis laws have not lead to more violent crime in CO which was the first state to legalize. You are just biased due to your own personal prejudices. Effective crime reduction results from fact based decisions and not your gut feelings about cannabis.

How is legal cannabis any different than legal alcohol? Both can create public nuisances that lead people to avoid areas where public use is prevalent which leads to decline in business activity and increase in blight when then leads to decline in public order.

You realize it was alcohol that brought people to h street in the first place, right?

You’re right, people out drinking on street corners is a massive attraction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we repeal the MJ law? I am assuming that what can be passed by referendum can also be repealed?
The law has not been respected or enforced as written, so IMO its invalid.

Get real. Legal Cannabis is not a threat to law and order. Illegal black markets are. DC has an unregulated market because of anti-cannabis crusaders just like yourself. Andy Harris of MD blocked the effective implementation of DC cannabis law. Cannabis laws have not lead to more violent crime in CO which was the first state to legalize. You are just biased due to your own personal prejudices. Effective crime reduction results from fact based decisions and not your gut feelings about cannabis.

How is legal cannabis any different than legal alcohol? Both can create public nuisances that lead people to avoid areas where public use is prevalent which leads to decline in business activity and increase in blight when then leads to decline in public order.

You realize it was alcohol that brought people to h street in the first place, right?

Someone drinking doesn’t bother me. The pot smokers affect the air that I breathe. Normal people don’t want to smell that sh&t. When you get in an elevator or walk around a retail store you stink up the place. PP was right that you can actually smell it in your car from other drivers. It’s low class and trashy.

Okay but they're the ones who compared it to alcohol speaking of which lol I'm gonna go drink and enjoy my day happy holidays

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we repeal the MJ law? I am assuming that what can be passed by referendum can also be repealed?
The law has not been respected or enforced as written, so IMO its invalid.

Get real. Legal Cannabis is not a threat to law and order. Illegal black markets are. DC has an unregulated market because of anti-cannabis crusaders just like yourself. Andy Harris of MD blocked the effective implementation of DC cannabis law. Cannabis laws have not lead to more violent crime in CO which was the first state to legalize. You are just biased due to your own personal prejudices. Effective crime reduction results from fact based decisions and not your gut feelings about cannabis.

How is legal cannabis any different than legal alcohol? Both can create public nuisances that lead people to avoid areas where public use is prevalent which leads to decline in business activity and increase in blight when then leads to decline in public order.

You realize it was alcohol that brought people to h street in the first place, right?

Someone drinking doesn’t bother me. The pot smokers affect the air that I breathe. Normal people don’t want to smell that sh&t. When you get in an elevator or walk around a retail store you stink up the place. PP was right that you can actually smell it in your car from other drivers. It’s low class and trashy.

Okay but they're the ones who compared it to alcohol speaking of which lol I'm gonna go drink and enjoy my day happy holidays

What a weird hill to die on. The public use of both legal and illegal drugs, including weed and alcohol and fentanyl and crack and whatever, can have obvious negative consequences on a community because these are nuisance behaviors that people try to avoid. If you want to keep weed legal and maintain a positive public image, you should be proposing crackdowns on rampant public use that negatively affects so many people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we repeal the MJ law? I am assuming that what can be passed by referendum can also be repealed?
The law has not been respected or enforced as written, so IMO its invalid.

Get real. Legal Cannabis is not a threat to law and order. Illegal black markets are. DC has an unregulated market because of anti-cannabis crusaders just like yourself. Andy Harris of MD blocked the effective implementation of DC cannabis law. Cannabis laws have not lead to more violent crime in CO which was the first state to legalize. You are just biased due to your own personal prejudices. Effective crime reduction results from fact based decisions and not your gut feelings about cannabis.

How is legal cannabis any different than legal alcohol? Both can create public nuisances that lead people to avoid areas where public use is prevalent which leads to decline in business activity and increase in blight when then leads to decline in public order.

You realize it was alcohol that brought people to h street in the first place, right?

Someone drinking doesn’t bother me. The pot smokers affect the air that I breathe. Normal people don’t want to smell that sh&t. When you get in an elevator or walk around a retail store you stink up the place. PP was right that you can actually smell it in your car from other drivers. It’s low class and trashy.

Exactly right. And if someone is driving around with an open container they will be arrested. Shouldn’t driving while smoking pot be held to the same standard of enforcement ?

[Anonymous]

Scientifically illiterate progressives ignore pot smoke (where are the warning labels, lawsuits, PSA ads and crackdowns on pot smokers / producers) and freak on cigarettes. Just like no problem with wide open borders during a “pandemic”.

Only Trump supporters truly think with logic and discerning intellect.

[Anonymous]

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Scientifically illiterate progressives ignore pot smoke (where are the warning labels, lawsuits, PSA ads and crackdowns on pot smokers / producers) and freak on cigarettes. Just like no problem with wide open borders during a “pandemic”.

Only Trump supporters truly think with logic and discerning intellect.

Your knuckles must hurt from being dragged around all day

[Anonymous]

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Scientifically illiterate progressives ignore pot smoke (where are the warning labels, lawsuits, PSA ads and crackdowns on pot smokers / producers) and freak on cigarettes. Just like no problem with wide open borders during a “pandemic”.

Only Trump supporters truly think with logic and discerning intellect.

Yep, just like all the Trump supporters that think the earth is only 6,000 years old.

What’s funny is if you used the term “discerning intellect” with a Trump supporter they would get really angry you used fancy words they don’t understand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Keep telling us everything is fine:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/20/h-street-corridor-dc-crime/

Mind boggling how any DC resident can keep voting for the same and expect better outcomes. What’s the definition of insanity again? Watch, in 2024 DC voters will prob triple down on this catastrophe. The district is now a total loss. At this point, the only solution is to try to wall it off so that their crime infested island doesn’t spill over to areas around them.

And to think, they argue they have the mental capacity to be a state when they can’t even do one of the very basic duties of govt, which is to ensure public safety and law and order.

R.I.P. H street.

Everything is apparently not at all fine with you, OP. I'm sorry. I hope you are able to get the help you need.

Same here. Hate to see it.

Op is fine.

I grew up in DC. I miss the Fenty years. Honestly, the only reason the city improved is because of developers and growth.

We’re now in a strange post George Floyd years where the loudest social grievance peddlers control the agenda and, in the amorphous name of “equity”, have cowed the city council into implementing lenient, slap on the wrist, catch and release, progressive criminal justice reform policies to attempt to tackle crime. They definitely keep people out of jail as intended. The DA not prosecuting 67% of crimes in 2022 also helps with that.

In reality, leniency combined with increased telework affecting the city’s coffers is bad. Also, all the landlords on H Street are fkwits. You think renters are going to pay 20k or more a month to rent your 20foot wide Class C little boutique rowhouse to build the next Granville Moore’s? No dude. Landlords need to be flexible and not leave boarded up buildings because no one can justify the rent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we repeal the MJ law? I am assuming that what can be passed by referendum can also be repealed?
The law has not been respected or enforced as written, so IMO its invalid.

Get real. Legal Cannabis is not a threat to law and order. Illegal black markets are. DC has an unregulated market because of anti-cannabis crusaders just like yourself. Andy Harris of MD blocked the effective implementation of DC cannabis law. Cannabis laws have not lead to more violent crime in CO which was the first state to legalize. You are just biased due to your own personal prejudices. Effective crime reduction results from fact based decisions and not your gut feelings about cannabis.

How is legal cannabis any different than legal alcohol? Both can create public nuisances that lead people to avoid areas where public use is prevalent which leads to decline in business activity and increase in blight when then leads to decline in public order.

You realize it was alcohol that brought people to h street in the first place, right?

Someone drinking doesn’t bother me. The pot smokers affect the air that I breathe. Normal people don’t want to smell that sh&t. When you get in an elevator or walk around a retail store you stink up the place. PP was right that you can actually smell it in your car from other drivers. It’s low class and trashy.

Okay but they're the ones who compared it to alcohol speaking of which lol I'm gonna go drink and enjoy my day happy holidays

What a weird hill to die on. The public use of both legal and illegal drugs, including weed and alcohol and fentanyl and crack and whatever, can have obvious negative consequences on a community because these are nuisance behaviors that people try to avoid. If you want to keep weed legal and maintain a positive public image, you should be proposing crackdowns on rampant public use that negatively affects so many people.

It’s inequitable to crack down on people smoking blunts on the street.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh God, here comes the "but H St is so vibrant" crowd. "The pot smell is freedom and equality, I love it". "The urine is just authenticity." "Stop making the crime stats up, DC is safe!"

And my favorite, "shoplifting and vandalism is a victimless crime. The insurance company will replace the glass and inventory!"

Who have you heard talking about shoplifting in that way? I don’t think there’s a single DCUM commenter / resident who isn’t concerned about crime.

I’m not an urban planner but I’m interested in the topic. One definition of vibrant place from online: enthusiasm, activity, and life — in other words, healthy and alive. The presence and amount of vibrancy is a reasonable proxy for a city's general health and well-being.

Why is vibrant a dirty word, and why are you using it as proxy for lawlessness? I actually think it’s a good word but don’t understand why its use has become so twisted.

It would take too long to explain it to you. But essentially it’s a sort of crime apologist type and ugh hate to use this expression, specifically SJW mouth breathers. You know them (or don’t) but these are the folks who like show up to an ANC meetings hosted by Council members recently to brief a a neighborhood on crime because it is so bad, so they show up in droves and all filled with naive idealism and basically shout down any meaningful action on crime and so the council bends and we get weak policies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh God, here comes the "but H St is so vibrant" crowd. "The pot smell is freedom and equality, I love it". "The urine is just authenticity." "Stop making the crime stats up, DC is safe!"

And my favorite, "shoplifting and vandalism is a victimless crime. The insurance company will replace the glass and inventory!"

Who have you heard talking about shoplifting in that way? I don’t think there’s a single DCUM commenter / resident who isn’t concerned about crime.

I’m not an urban planner but I’m interested in the topic. One definition of vibrant place from online: enthusiasm, activity, and life — in other words, healthy and alive. The presence and amount of vibrancy is a reasonable proxy for a city's general health and well-being.

Why is vibrant a dirty word, and why are you using it as proxy for lawlessness? I actually think it’s a good word but don’t understand why its use has become so twisted.

It would take too long to explain it to you. But essentially it’s a sort of crime apologist type and ugh hate to use this expression, specifically SJW mouth breathers. You know them (or don’t) but these are the folks who like show up to an ANC meetings hosted by Council members recently to brief a a neighborhood on crime because it is so bad, so they show up in droves and all filled with naive idealism and basically shout down any meaningful action on crime and so the council bends and we get weak policies.

This describes three or four commissioners in ANC 3C.

[Anonymous]

None of that is the birth of H Street. It existed as a community before gentrification.

[Anonymous]

Can you repeal a repeal? Would it take another petition? There'd be plenty of signatures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you repeal a repeal? Would it take another petition? There'd be plenty of signatures.

It would be hard to recriminalize. However, a better course of action would be an initiative that follows the law in PG County that heavily restricts where the dispensaries can legally operate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we repeal the MJ law? I am assuming that what can be passed by referendum can also be repealed?
The law has not been respected or enforced as written, so IMO its invalid.

Get real. Legal Cannabis is not a threat to law and order. Illegal black markets are. DC has an unregulated market because of anti-cannabis crusaders just like yourself. Andy Harris of MD blocked the effective implementation of DC cannabis law. Cannabis laws have not lead to more violent crime in CO which was the first state to legalize. You are just biased due to your own personal prejudices. Effective crime reduction results from fact based decisions and not your gut feelings about cannabis.

The hell it is not. You CONSTANTLY smell weed now while driving in the road because so, sooooooo many people are driving while toking. People who drive while high are dangers to everyone around them as well as pedestrians. There are numerous cases where people have been killed because someone was driving while high.

This is true. I think the people who use pot can't smell it or something because to deny it is flat our ridiculous. If you are driving next to or behind a car where people are smoking, your own car smells like pot.