NYT and school closures

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Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.

+ a billion.

Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.

Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.

Worried you will lose your job?

What?

What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?

My kids go to Catholic school, so they were back in person school in fall 2020.

Some of you are kind of crazy.

Mine too, but I had to move from a batshit crazy place to get that. Had we stayed put the kids would have been out until late spring 2021. That's messed up. There was no reason for that whatsoever. There were some terrible decisions and we should hold people accountable for that. Why not?

And you think you get to command the NYT editorial board to resign? Move on. It is 2023. The kids who were hurt the most are the ones who have crazy parents.

Why don't you just sit this conversation out if you aren't interested? What harm is it to you if people want to learn where we went wrong and how do to better in the future?

Let it go. Let it go. Some of you have lost your minds. Go for a walk or something.

You are obsessed with shutting this down. What are you so worried about? Go for a walk yourself if this doesn't interest you.

I realize that posting on a message board that the NYT editorial board must resign is crazy. And ineffective. Go run for your school board if you want to make decisions. Instead of posting nonsense here.

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Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, another “I was ok with experimenting on teachers” thread. Yes, the closures affected learning. That’s because we had a pandemic that killed millions of people. If you were advocating putting teachers back into the classroom prior to widespread vaccine availability and peak deaths (Jan 2021 in Virginia), I consider you absolute scum.

If you are ok with destroying children for political reasons, I consider you absolute scum.

The schools were trying to protect lives, not play politics. Sit TF down.

You actually believe that? You'll fall for anything apparently.

What “politics” do you think school systems were playing?

My kids were for sure pawns in the Trump battle. A broken clock is right two times a day and it was right to have the kids in school starting in fall 2020.

This. A lot of people decided the way to suck it to Trump and the Magas was to simply take the opposite position from what Trump or Magas said. So if Trump said schools should reopen, or red states reopened schools, a lot of mindless liberals were like "we will keep our children home forever! only when it's safe!" Which is actually much more extreme position than the reopenings you saw in red states. Some of which were poorly handled and not done in keeping with public health guidelines -- I didn't want that either.

But there was a group of people who were like "hey what if we prioritize kids and education, but do so in the safest possible way with masking and measures used in other countries, like schedules with more built in outdoor time throughout the day (studies show that chances of spreading Covid go way down if you don't sit in the same place to long), hybrid or abbreviated schedules (perhaps two days in the classroom a week, or morning class only, to reduce exposure), mandatory testing. Many of these are things that were ultimately adopted by schools when they finally reopened.

But there was this vocal group who decided that the response to Trump and Magas had to be the opposite, even if it made no sense. Even if it was worse than some kind of compromise choice that might actually have acknowledged that hey, kids should probably be in school,, or hey, a lot of middle and working class families don't have the resources to just educate their kids at home for a year and a half. If you said these things, you were a Maga, probably also racist. It was a crazy time.

Yes, kids were pawns in a political game. No question about it.

I didn’t see any of that AT ALL. There were people working to make a safe environment and then there were people who said F it.

Trump made it political at the national level, but schools weren’t virtual out of spite. So ridiculous.

DP. Where do you live? I'm not saying that schools were virtual out of spite, but keeping kids out of schools became the "virtuous" position for the left. Virtue was keeping schools closed to minimize the spread of COVID AND refusing to consider and plan for the consequences of that strategy for far too long.

Northern VA. With friends up and down the east coast and many on the west coast. Maybe the spiteful schools were on the Midwest?

Here, we had people who wanted kids to SAFELY go back in the buildings asap vs people who didn’t GAF and the vast majority of those people were totally clueless about the schools/education and irrational about the whole situation.

DP. Oh miss me with the “safely” nonsense. This was always a distraction technique.

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Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, another “I was ok with experimenting on teachers” thread. Yes, the closures affected learning. That’s because we had a pandemic that killed millions of people. If you were advocating putting teachers back into the classroom prior to widespread vaccine availability and peak deaths (Jan 2021 in Virginia), I consider you absolute scum.

My school district (DCPS) did not full reopen until August 2021, a full 8 months after teachers receive priority access to vaccines. Yes, some schools opened for some kids (not mine, to be clear) where teachers essentially volunteered to come back. But many schools, including ours, were closed from March 2020 until August 2021.

And don't forget all the school personnel who refused to get vaccinated even when vaccines were widely available, but also refused to return to work.

Which school didn’t have kids in the buildings by March 2021?

Full time? Prince William county schools. In March 2021 high school students were allowed to come in 2 days a week. Most didn't bother. My kids were typically the only ones in their classroom besides the teacher. They were literally the only ones on their bus.

Kids were back in classrooms at almost all schools by March 2021.

Not full-time, and not all kids. Do people not know this?

OK. Like I said, at almost all schools most kids who wanted to be back in the classroom were back in classroom by March 2021.

You can look at the numbers at the link below. I live in Maryland and don't consider hybrid offered to 64% of students in March of 2021 to be something available to "almost all" students. By May 2021, full-time in-person learning was still unavailable for 80% of Maryland students, and 36% weren't even offered hybrid instruction. You can see similar numbers for DC and Virginia.

https://ies.ed.gov/schoolsurvey/mss-dashboard/

I said “ most kids who wanted to be back in the classroom were back in classroom ”, not “almost all kids”.

Anyway, it was first offered to the people who selected the hybrid option, then expanded to more as the school year continued, as the numbers show.

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Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, another “I was ok with experimenting on teachers” thread. Yes, the closures affected learning. That’s because we had a pandemic that killed millions of people. If you were advocating putting teachers back into the classroom prior to widespread vaccine availability and peak deaths (Jan 2021 in Virginia), I consider you absolute scum.

If you are ok with destroying children for political reasons, I consider you absolute scum.

The schools were trying to protect lives, not play politics. Sit TF down.

You actually believe that? You'll fall for anything apparently.

What “politics” do you think school systems were playing?

My kids were for sure pawns in the Trump battle. A broken clock is right two times a day and it was right to have the kids in school starting in fall 2020.

This. A lot of people decided the way to suck it to Trump and the Magas was to simply take the opposite position from what Trump or Magas said. So if Trump said schools should reopen, or red states reopened schools, a lot of mindless liberals were like "we will keep our children home forever! only when it's safe!" Which is actually much more extreme position than the reopenings you saw in red states. Some of which were poorly handled and not done in keeping with public health guidelines -- I didn't want that either.

But there was a group of people who were like "hey what if we prioritize kids and education, but do so in the safest possible way with masking and measures used in other countries, like schedules with more built in outdoor time throughout the day (studies show that chances of spreading Covid go way down if you don't sit in the same place to long), hybrid or abbreviated schedules (perhaps two days in the classroom a week, or morning class only, to reduce exposure), mandatory testing. Many of these are things that were ultimately adopted by schools when they finally reopened.

But there was this vocal group who decided that the response to Trump and Magas had to be the opposite, even if it made no sense. Even if it was worse than some kind of compromise choice that might actually have acknowledged that hey, kids should probably be in school,, or hey, a lot of middle and working class families don't have the resources to just educate their kids at home for a year and a half. If you said these things, you were a Maga, probably also racist. It was a crazy time.

Yes, kids were pawns in a political game. No question about it.

I didn’t see any of that AT ALL. There were people working to make a safe environment and then there were people who said F it.

Trump made it political at the national level, but schools weren’t virtual out of spite. So ridiculous.

DP. Where do you live? I'm not saying that schools were virtual out of spite, but keeping kids out of schools became the "virtuous" position for the left. Virtue was keeping schools closed to minimize the spread of COVID AND refusing to consider and plan for the consequences of that strategy for far too long.

Northern VA. With friends up and down the east coast and many on the west coast. Maybe the spiteful schools were on the Midwest?

Here, we had people who wanted kids to SAFELY go back in the buildings asap vs people who didn’t GAF and the vast majority of those people were totally clueless about the schools/education and irrational about the whole situation.

DP. Oh miss me with the “safely” nonsense. This was always a distraction technique.

Like I said, some people just DGAF. Totally irrational.

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Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, another “I was ok with experimenting on teachers” thread. Yes, the closures affected learning. That’s because we had a pandemic that killed millions of people. If you were advocating putting teachers back into the classroom prior to widespread vaccine availability and peak deaths (Jan 2021 in Virginia), I consider you absolute scum.

My school district (DCPS) did not full reopen until August 2021, a full 8 months after teachers receive priority access to vaccines. Yes, some schools opened for some kids (not mine, to be clear) where teachers essentially volunteered to come back. But many schools, including ours, were closed from March 2020 until August 2021.

And don't forget all the school personnel who refused to get vaccinated even when vaccines were widely available, but also refused to return to work.

Which school didn’t have kids in the buildings by March 2021?

Full time? Prince William county schools. In March 2021 high school students were allowed to come in 2 days a week. Most didn't bother. My kids were typically the only ones in their classroom besides the teacher. They were literally the only ones on their bus.

Kids were back in classrooms at almost all schools by March 2021.

Not full-time, and not all kids. Do people not know this?

OK. Like I said, at almost all schools most kids who wanted to be back in the classroom were back in classroom by March 2021.

You can look at the numbers at the link below. I live in Maryland and don't consider hybrid offered to 64% of students in March of 2021 to be something available to "almost all" students. By May 2021, full-time in-person learning was still unavailable for 80% of Maryland students, and 36% weren't even offered hybrid instruction. You can see similar numbers for DC and Virginia.

https://ies.ed.gov/schoolsurvey/mss-dashboard/

I said “ most kids who wanted to be back in the classroom were back in classroom ”, not “almost all kids”.

Anyway, it was first offered to the people who selected the hybrid option, then expanded to more as the school year continued, as the numbers show.

school is compulsory.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.

+ a billion.

Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.

“Accountability”? WTF?

Seek help.

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Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, another “I was ok with experimenting on teachers” thread. Yes, the closures affected learning. That’s because we had a pandemic that killed millions of people. If you were advocating putting teachers back into the classroom prior to widespread vaccine availability and peak deaths (Jan 2021 in Virginia), I consider you absolute scum.

My school district (DCPS) did not full reopen until August 2021, a full 8 months after teachers receive priority access to vaccines. Yes, some schools opened for some kids (not mine, to be clear) where teachers essentially volunteered to come back. But many schools, including ours, were closed from March 2020 until August 2021.

And don't forget all the school personnel who refused to get vaccinated even when vaccines were widely available, but also refused to return to work.

Which school didn’t have kids in the buildings by March 2021?

Full time? Prince William county schools. In March 2021 high school students were allowed to come in 2 days a week. Most didn't bother. My kids were typically the only ones in their classroom besides the teacher. They were literally the only ones on their bus.

Kids were back in classrooms at almost all schools by March 2021.

Not full-time, and not all kids. Do people not know this?

OK. Like I said, at almost all schools most kids who wanted to be back in the classroom were back in classroom by March 2021.

You can look at the numbers at the link below. I live in Maryland and don't consider hybrid offered to 64% of students in March of 2021 to be something available to "almost all" students. By May 2021, full-time in-person learning was still unavailable for 80% of Maryland students, and 36% weren't even offered hybrid instruction. You can see similar numbers for DC and Virginia.

https://ies.ed.gov/schoolsurvey/mss-dashboard/

I said “ most kids who wanted to be back in the classroom were back in classroom ”, not “almost all kids”.

Anyway, it was first offered to the people who selected the hybrid option, then expanded to more as the school year continued, as the numbers show.

school is compulsory.

Yes, kids should have attended school regardless of physical location. In the building or online.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.

+ a billion.

Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.

Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.

Worried you will lose your job?

What?

What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?

My kids go to Catholic school, so they were back in person school in fall 2020.

Some of you are kind of crazy.

Mine too, but I had to move from a batshit crazy place to get that. Had we stayed put the kids would have been out until late spring 2021. That's messed up. There was no reason for that whatsoever. There were some terrible decisions and we should hold people accountable for that. Why not?

And you think you get to command the NYT editorial board to resign? Move on. It is 2023. The kids who were hurt the most are the ones who have crazy parents.

Why don't you just sit this conversation out if you aren't interested? What harm is it to you if people want to learn where we went wrong and how do to better in the future?

Let it go. Let it go. Some of you have lost your minds. Go for a walk or something.

You are obsessed with shutting this down. What are you so worried about? Go for a walk yourself if this doesn't interest you.

I realize that posting on a message board that the NYT editorial board must resign is crazy. And ineffective. Go run for your school board if you want to make decisions. Instead of posting nonsense here.

It's amusing how much this bothers you. Must be hitting close to home.

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Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, another “I was ok with experimenting on teachers” thread. Yes, the closures affected learning. That’s because we had a pandemic that killed millions of people. If you were advocating putting teachers back into the classroom prior to widespread vaccine availability and peak deaths (Jan 2021 in Virginia), I consider you absolute scum.

My school district (DCPS) did not full reopen until August 2021, a full 8 months after teachers receive priority access to vaccines. Yes, some schools opened for some kids (not mine, to be clear) where teachers essentially volunteered to come back. But many schools, including ours, were closed from March 2020 until August 2021.

And don't forget all the school personnel who refused to get vaccinated even when vaccines were widely available, but also refused to return to work.

Which school didn’t have kids in the buildings by March 2021?

Full time? Prince William county schools. In March 2021 high school students were allowed to come in 2 days a week. Most didn't bother. My kids were typically the only ones in their classroom besides the teacher. They were literally the only ones on their bus.

Kids were back in classrooms at almost all schools by March 2021.

Not full-time, and not all kids. Do people not know this?

OK. Like I said, at almost all schools most kids who wanted to be back in the classroom were back in classroom by March 2021.

You can look at the numbers at the link below. I live in Maryland and don't consider hybrid offered to 64% of students in March of 2021 to be something available to "almost all" students. By May 2021, full-time in-person learning was still unavailable for 80% of Maryland students, and 36% weren't even offered hybrid instruction. You can see similar numbers for DC and Virginia.

https://ies.ed.gov/schoolsurvey/mss-dashboard/

I said “ most kids who wanted to be back in the classroom were back in classroom ”, not “almost all kids”.

Anyway, it was first offered to the people who selected the hybrid option, then expanded to more as the school year continued, as the numbers show.

It would be more accurate to say that most Maryland students did not have access to full-time in-person learning until the fall of 2021, which was my original statement.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.

+ a billion.

Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.

Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.

Worried you will lose your job?

What?

What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?

My kids go to Catholic school, so they were back in person school in fall 2020.

Some of you are kind of crazy.

Mine too, but I had to move from a batshit crazy place to get that. Had we stayed put the kids would have been out until late spring 2021. That's messed up. There was no reason for that whatsoever. There were some terrible decisions and we should hold people accountable for that. Why not?

And you think you get to command the NYT editorial board to resign? Move on. It is 2023. The kids who were hurt the most are the ones who have crazy parents.

Why don't you just sit this conversation out if you aren't interested? What harm is it to you if people want to learn where we went wrong and how do to better in the future?

Let it go. Let it go. Some of you have lost your minds. Go for a walk or something.

You are obsessed with shutting this down. What are you so worried about? Go for a walk yourself if this doesn't interest you.

I realize that posting on a message board that the NYT editorial board must resign is crazy. And ineffective. Go run for your school board if you want to make decisions. Instead of posting nonsense here.

It's amusing how much this bothers you. Must be hitting close to home.

You are an odd one!

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Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.

+ a billion.

Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.

Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.

Worried you will lose your job?

What?

What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?

My kids go to Catholic school, so they were back in person school in fall 2020.

Some of you are kind of crazy.

Mine too, but I had to move from a batshit crazy place to get that. Had we stayed put the kids would have been out until late spring 2021. That's messed up. There was no reason for that whatsoever. There were some terrible decisions and we should hold people accountable for that. Why not?

And you think you get to command the NYT editorial board to resign? Move on. It is 2023. The kids who were hurt the most are the ones who have crazy parents.

Why don't you just sit this conversation out if you aren't interested? What harm is it to you if people want to learn where we went wrong and how do to better in the future?

Let it go. Let it go. Some of you have lost your minds. Go for a walk or something.

You are obsessed with shutting this down. What are you so worried about? Go for a walk yourself if this doesn't interest you.

I realize that posting on a message board that the NYT editorial board must resign is crazy. And ineffective. Go run for your school board if you want to make decisions. Instead of posting nonsense here.

It's amusing how much this bothers you. Must be hitting close to home.

You are an odd one!

I would say the same about people holed up in here begging everyone to stop talking about it. Let it go, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.

+ a billion.

Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.

“Accountability”? WTF?

Seek help.

Thank you for the suggestion but I'm fine.

Not like the millions of children impacted by the crazy agenda pushed by the NYT to close public schools for nearly two years.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.

+ a billion.

Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.

Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.

Worried you will lose your job?

What?

What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?

My kids go to Catholic school, so they were back in person school in fall 2020.

Some of you are kind of crazy.

Mine too, but I had to move from a batshit crazy place to get that. Had we stayed put the kids would have been out until late spring 2021. That's messed up. There was no reason for that whatsoever. There were some terrible decisions and we should hold people accountable for that. Why not?

And you think you get to command the NYT editorial board to resign? Move on. It is 2023. The kids who were hurt the most are the ones who have crazy parents.

Why don't you just sit this conversation out if you aren't interested? What harm is it to you if people want to learn where we went wrong and how do to better in the future?

Let it go. Let it go. Some of you have lost your minds. Go for a walk or something.

You are obsessed with shutting this down. What are you so worried about? Go for a walk yourself if this doesn't interest you.

I realize that posting on a message board that the NYT editorial board must resign is crazy. And ineffective. Go run for your school board if you want to make decisions. Instead of posting nonsense here.

It's amusing how much this bothers you. Must be hitting close to home.

Everyone should be concerned with the nutters running around in 2023 trying to blame people for handling the pandemic in a reasonable, rational way. I’m sorry that the pandemic was hard for you but you’re misdirecting your anger.

The important thing now is addressing educational gaps. Focus on that.

(And glad you finally care about some of the many educational challenges that have existed for a long time and were magnified by the pandemic.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.

+ a billion.

Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.

“Accountability”? WTF?

Seek help.

Thank you for the suggestion but I'm fine.

Not like the millions of children impacted by the crazy agenda pushed by the NYT to close public schools for nearly two years.

Seek math help too.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.

+ a billion.

Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.

Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.

Worried you will lose your job?

What?

What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?

My kids go to Catholic school, so they were back in person school in fall 2020.

Some of you are kind of crazy.

Mine too, but I had to move from a batshit crazy place to get that. Had we stayed put the kids would have been out until late spring 2021. That's messed up. There was no reason for that whatsoever. There were some terrible decisions and we should hold people accountable for that. Why not?

And you think you get to command the NYT editorial board to resign? Move on. It is 2023. The kids who were hurt the most are the ones who have crazy parents.

Why don't you just sit this conversation out if you aren't interested? What harm is it to you if people want to learn where we went wrong and how do to better in the future?

Let it go. Let it go. Some of you have lost your minds. Go for a walk or something.

You are obsessed with shutting this down. What are you so worried about? Go for a walk yourself if this doesn't interest you.

I realize that posting on a message board that the NYT editorial board must resign is crazy. And ineffective. Go run for your school board if you want to make decisions. Instead of posting nonsense here.

It's amusing how much this bothers you. Must be hitting close to home.

Everyone should be concerned with the nutters running around in 2023 trying to blame people for handling the pandemic in a reasonable, rational way. I’m sorry that the pandemic was hard for you but you’re misdirecting your anger.

The important thing now is addressing educational gaps. Focus on that.

(And glad you finally care about some of the many educational challenges that have existed for a long time and were magnified by the pandemic.)

Maybe doing more than one thing at a time is hard for you, but that's not the case for everyone. We can do both.