Teacher exposes the craptastic decline iof MCPS in Reddit rant

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Anonymous wrote:That was a pretty enlightening Reddit thread. If a student is not self-motivated and high-performing, they are completely failed by MCPS schools today. It's a race to the bottom for average kids. And it's entirely caused by central office bureaucrats. Monica McKnight cannot leave soon enough.

So in summary, to increase graduation rates, MCPS stopped requiring kids actually go to class and stopped teachers from giving zeros for not doing any assignments. That caused a drop in attendance rates, so they redefined absences as just very tardy. The result is that kids without parental oversight are hanging out in the hallways and graduating with no skills, knowledge, or self-discipline. However, the graduation and attendance rates are meeting metrics.

Lol, you all need to name schools for me to believe this. And even more, you need to name schools because all that was done in the name of equity, but if true, it's actually hurting the kids who need equity.

Name schools? It’s happening at all of them at some level. Our MS and HS are doing this and it’s a total shame.

Names!? We don't need no stinkin' names!

All of them, dim bulb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know parents hate hearing this, but this is a huge parent problem. (And no, just because I'm writing this doesnt mean ALL parents. I'm not attacking you personally.) In general though...I had a girl walking around my class, filming kids WITHOUT their permission, she was defiant as I told her to put it away or I'd take it away. Instead, she called her mom on speaker and told her mom I threatened to take her phone away...mom started screaming through the phone I had zero rights to do this, started yelling profanity, etc...she shut off her phone smugly...smiled at me and said, "see, it doesnt matter. My mom doesnt care." I wish I was making this up. I informed principal and she just said, "our hands are tied." This isn't a sustainable profession or job anymore. The future is bleak.

It really is. Middle school teacher here. I called a parent a few weeks ago regarding a student who doesn’t submit work, is constantly laughing and making faces at people around the room and just generally has totally inappropriate behavior for a classroom.

The parent said to me “is it just her?” ?! Are you kidding me? I told her her daughter does this more than any other child in the class and is a constant instigator. I couldn’t believe that response. No accountability

And, some of us would appreciate the call and work with you and our child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know parents hate hearing this, but this is a huge parent problem. (And no, just because I'm writing this doesnt mean ALL parents. I'm not attacking you personally.) In general though...I had a girl walking around my class, filming kids WITHOUT their permission, she was defiant as I told her to put it away or I'd take it away. Instead, she called her mom on speaker and told her mom I threatened to take her phone away...mom started screaming through the phone I had zero rights to do this, started yelling profanity, etc...she shut off her phone smugly...smiled at me and said, "see, it doesnt matter. My mom doesnt care." I wish I was making this up. I informed principal and she just said, "our hands are tied." This isn't a sustainable profession or job anymore. The future is bleak.

You have a bad principal. He or she should give a detention or suspend the kid for a day. And, have a room for kids who misbehave, kicked out of class. Simple.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They raised our taxes for this freakshow too.

Can we just admit MCPS is one giant baby sitting program for a bunch of delinquent losers with trash parents?

Zero education is going on. I am sick and tired of the argument 'It's for the schools!' as justification for constantly raising our taxes.

They raised taxes less than inflation. Doesn't take a CPA to see the inherent problem there.

They raised taxes, period.

They should be CUTTING taxes based on the fact that zero education is going on in MCPS, genius.

What are we paying all that money for? For a giant baby sitting program, that's it.

Well, sure, that's one solution. Not a good one, mind you, but still a solution.

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Anonymous wrote:This is an American culture problem. We want to pretend everyone is the same, but they aren't. Not every kid is college-bound. But every kid should be able to learn and thrive and end high school able to read and understand enough math to live life and pursue higher education if desired. Everyone who has an average IQ (and I mean everyone) can learn to read and do algebra. Also, we can teach kids what tools they can use to have success. What we can't do is pretend every kid needs to or is able to make it through AP calculus by their senior year in high school. Kids unfortunately do not start school on a level playing field. Schools can't level all the differences. If we were able and willing to meet kids where they are, spend more time reteaching kids who need repetition to get concepts and spend time building background knowledge for kids that need that, we'd end up with more kids happy and thriving in school. Unfortunately, we want to pretend different needs don't exist, all kids can meet the same benchmarks in the same time frame, and we consequently teach to an almost non-existent middle which leaves a lot of kids bored and a lot of kids perpetually confused.

But why????? How do we change this?

First, you have to admit far leftist policies resulted in this disaster. Then you have to get back to the basics of accountability. Kids don't hand in he on time? Zero. Kids don't attend class? Zero. There are no make up sessions and 50% awards for not showing up to work in real life. Look, accountability and common sense education WILL mean there will be some brown kids who fail and cannot keep up. So what? It is far more racist to assume they cannot do the work and be held accountable to high quality standards.

Everyone wants equitable outcomes, for sure. But throwing all standards out the window to reach that goal is a fatal mistake. Nothing will change until voters stop voting for far left liberal loons and their policies. It's truly remarkable how people have congitive dissonance and cannot associate the rapid decline of MCPS with their voting behaviors.

MCPS and MoCo are permanently screwed and will be in steep decline, because do you think they'll ever stop voting far left? One party rule with carte blanche to do whatever and never be held accountable to anyone.

Change all of that first and then you can get back to the basics of quality education.

God, you are SO dull. I implore you to grow up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an American culture problem. We want to pretend everyone is the same, but they aren't. Not every kid is college-bound. But every kid should be able to learn and thrive and end high school able to read and understand enough math to live life and pursue higher education if desired. Everyone who has an average IQ (and I mean everyone) can learn to read and do algebra. Also, we can teach kids what tools they can use to have success. What we can't do is pretend every kid needs to or is able to make it through AP calculus by their senior year in high school. Kids unfortunately do not start school on a level playing field. Schools can't level all the differences. If we were able and willing to meet kids where they are, spend more time reteaching kids who need repetition to get concepts and spend time building background knowledge for kids that need that, we'd end up with more kids happy and thriving in school. Unfortunately, we want to pretend different needs don't exist, all kids can meet the same benchmarks in the same time frame, and we consequently teach to an almost non-existent middle which leaves a lot of kids bored and a lot of kids perpetually confused.

But why????? How do we change this?

First, you have to admit far leftist policies resulted in this disaster. Then you have to get back to the basics of accountability. Kids don't hand in he on time? Zero. Kids don't attend class? Zero. There are no make up sessions and 50% awards for not showing up to work in real life. Look, accountability and common sense education WILL mean there will be some brown kids who fail and cannot keep up. So what? It is far more racist to assume they cannot do the work and be held accountable to high quality standards.

Everyone wants equitable outcomes, for sure. But throwing all standards out the window to reach that goal is a fatal mistake. Nothing will change until voters stop voting for far left liberal loons and their policies. It's truly remarkable how people have congitive dissonance and cannot associate the rapid decline of MCPS with their voting behaviors.

MCPS and MoCo are permanently screwed and will be in steep decline, because do you think they'll ever stop voting far left? One party rule with carte blanche to do whatever and never be held accountable to anyone.

Change all of that first and then you can get back to the basics of quality education.

I would say right-wing policies resulted in this. The GOP's whole jam is to dumb down the population in order to expand their base. This is who mainly benefits from these policies.

You can’t blame the GOP for this. MCPS and Montgomery County, in general, aren’t even touched by the GOP.

These changes are due to progressive policy changes here in MoCo. Own it. Progressive politics did this. Period.

It's a national problem. Whether you like what you see or not, MCPS is doing better than most larger, diverse systems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an American culture problem. We want to pretend everyone is the same, but they aren't. Not every kid is college-bound. But every kid should be able to learn and thrive and end high school able to read and understand enough math to live life and pursue higher education if desired. Everyone who has an average IQ (and I mean everyone) can learn to read and do algebra. Also, we can teach kids what tools they can use to have success. What we can't do is pretend every kid needs to or is able to make it through AP calculus by their senior year in high school. Kids unfortunately do not start school on a level playing field. Schools can't level all the differences. If we were able and willing to meet kids where they are, spend more time reteaching kids who need repetition to get concepts and spend time building background knowledge for kids that need that, we'd end up with more kids happy and thriving in school. Unfortunately, we want to pretend different needs don't exist, all kids can meet the same benchmarks in the same time frame, and we consequently teach to an almost non-existent middle which leaves a lot of kids bored and a lot of kids perpetually confused.

But why????? How do we change this?

First, you have to admit far leftist policies resulted in this disaster. Then you have to get back to the basics of accountability. Kids don't hand in he on time? Zero. Kids don't attend class? Zero. There are no make up sessions and 50% awards for not showing up to work in real life. Look, accountability and common sense education WILL mean there will be some brown kids who fail and cannot keep up. So what? It is far more racist to assume they cannot do the work and be held accountable to high quality standards.

Everyone wants equitable outcomes, for sure. But throwing all standards out the window to reach that goal is a fatal mistake. Nothing will change until voters stop voting for far left liberal loons and their policies. It's truly remarkable how people have congitive dissonance and cannot associate the rapid decline of MCPS with their voting behaviors.

MCPS and MoCo are permanently screwed and will be in steep decline, because do you think they'll ever stop voting far left? One party rule with carte blanche to do whatever and never be held accountable to anyone.

Change all of that first and then you can get back to the basics of quality education.

I would say right-wing policies resulted in this. The GOP's whole jam is to dumb down the population in order to expand their base. This is who mainly benefits from these policies.

You can’t blame the GOP for this. MCPS and Montgomery County, in general, aren’t even touched by the GOP.

These changes are due to progressive policy changes here in MoCo. Own it. Progressive politics did this. Period.

You havent been paying attention at all. Obviously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an American culture problem. We want to pretend everyone is the same, but they aren't. Not every kid is college-bound. But every kid should be able to learn and thrive and end high school able to read and understand enough math to live life and pursue higher education if desired. Everyone who has an average IQ (and I mean everyone) can learn to read and do algebra. Also, we can teach kids what tools they can use to have success. What we can't do is pretend every kid needs to or is able to make it through AP calculus by their senior year in high school. Kids unfortunately do not start school on a level playing field. Schools can't level all the differences. If we were able and willing to meet kids where they are, spend more time reteaching kids who need repetition to get concepts and spend time building background knowledge for kids that need that, we'd end up with more kids happy and thriving in school. Unfortunately, we want to pretend different needs don't exist, all kids can meet the same benchmarks in the same time frame, and we consequently teach to an almost non-existent middle which leaves a lot of kids bored and a lot of kids perpetually confused.

But why????? How do we change this?

First, you have to admit far leftist policies resulted in this disaster. Then you have to get back to the basics of accountability. Kids don't hand in he on time? Zero. Kids don't attend class? Zero. There are no make up sessions and 50% awards for not showing up to work in real life. Look, accountability and common sense education WILL mean there will be some brown kids who fail and cannot keep up. So what? It is far more racist to assume they cannot do the work and be held accountable to high quality standards.

Everyone wants equitable outcomes, for sure. But throwing all standards out the window to reach that goal is a fatal mistake. Nothing will change until voters stop voting for far left liberal loons and their policies. It's truly remarkable how people have congitive dissonance and cannot associate the rapid decline of MCPS with their voting behaviors.

MCPS and MoCo are permanently screwed and will be in steep decline, because do you think they'll ever stop voting far left? One party rule with carte blanche to do whatever and never be held accountable to anyone.

Change all of that first and then you can get back to the basics of quality education.

I would say right-wing policies resulted in this. The GOP's whole jam is to dumb down the population in order to expand their base. This is who mainly benefits from these policies.

Lmao, right wing policies in MoCo resulted in this debacle. Now I've heard it all!

You clearly must be a product of MCPS with this absolutely laughable failure in basic logic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know parents hate hearing this, but this is a huge parent problem. (And no, just because I'm writing this doesnt mean ALL parents. I'm not attacking you personally.) In general though...I had a girl walking around my class, filming kids WITHOUT their permission, she was defiant as I told her to put it away or I'd take it away. Instead, she called her mom on speaker and told her mom I threatened to take her phone away...mom started screaming through the phone I had zero rights to do this, started yelling profanity, etc...she shut off her phone smugly...smiled at me and said, "see, it doesnt matter. My mom doesnt care." I wish I was making this up. I informed principal and she just said, "our hands are tied." This isn't a sustainable profession or job anymore. The future is bleak.

You have a bad principal. He or she should give a detention or suspend the kid for a day. And, have a room for kids who misbehave, kicked out of class. Simple.

I'm literally laughing out loud. You clearly have never stepped foot in a school in the last 10 years. Detention? Hahahahaha...right. Suspension? Never gonna happen. The most that could possibly happen is ISS which kids actually try to get so they arent stuck in class. Please get a clue before ever posting again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They raised our taxes for this freakshow too.

Can we just admit MCPS is one giant baby sitting program for a bunch of delinquent losers with trash parents?

Zero education is going on. I am sick and tired of the argument 'It's for the schools!' as justification for constantly raising our taxes.

They raised taxes less than inflation. Doesn't take a CPA to see the inherent problem there.

They raised taxes, period.

They should be CUTTING taxes based on the fact that zero education is going on in MCPS, genius.

What are we paying all that money for? For a giant baby sitting program, that's it.

Well, sure, that's one solution. Not a good one, mind you, but still a solution.

Wrong, it's a fantastic solution. If MCPS aren't educating then stop wasting billions of dollars on them and allocate a finite resource like money to areas that actually improve the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an American culture problem. We want to pretend everyone is the same, but they aren't. Not every kid is college-bound. But every kid should be able to learn and thrive and end high school able to read and understand enough math to live life and pursue higher education if desired. Everyone who has an average IQ (and I mean everyone) can learn to read and do algebra. Also, we can teach kids what tools they can use to have success. What we can't do is pretend every kid needs to or is able to make it through AP calculus by their senior year in high school. Kids unfortunately do not start school on a level playing field. Schools can't level all the differences. If we were able and willing to meet kids where they are, spend more time reteaching kids who need repetition to get concepts and spend time building background knowledge for kids that need that, we'd end up with more kids happy and thriving in school. Unfortunately, we want to pretend different needs don't exist, all kids can meet the same benchmarks in the same time frame, and we consequently teach to an almost non-existent middle which leaves a lot of kids bored and a lot of kids perpetually confused.

But why????? How do we change this?

First, you have to admit far leftist policies resulted in this disaster. Then you have to get back to the basics of accountability. Kids don't hand in he on time? Zero. Kids don't attend class? Zero. There are no make up sessions and 50% awards for not showing up to work in real life. Look, accountability and common sense education WILL mean there will be some brown kids who fail and cannot keep up. So what? It is far more racist to assume they cannot do the work and be held accountable to high quality standards.

Everyone wants equitable outcomes, for sure. But throwing all standards out the window to reach that goal is a fatal mistake. Nothing will change until voters stop voting for far left liberal loons and their policies. It's truly remarkable how people have congitive dissonance and cannot associate the rapid decline of MCPS with their voting behaviors.

MCPS and MoCo are permanently screwed and will be in steep decline, because do you think they'll ever stop voting far left? One party rule with carte blanche to do whatever and never be held accountable to anyone.

Change all of that first and then you can get back to the basics of quality education.

God, you are SO dull. I implore you to grow up.

And you are so dimwitted. Maybe there's a magic pill you can take in order to gain some IQ before you vote for liberal Democrats next election. I suspect not, which is why you'll probably end up doubling down on these idiots yet again in 2024 and wonder why in 2026 MCPS now perform as bad as schools in Baltimore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an American culture problem. We want to pretend everyone is the same, but they aren't. Not every kid is college-bound. But every kid should be able to learn and thrive and end high school able to read and understand enough math to live life and pursue higher education if desired. Everyone who has an average IQ (and I mean everyone) can learn to read and do algebra. Also, we can teach kids what tools they can use to have success. What we can't do is pretend every kid needs to or is able to make it through AP calculus by their senior year in high school. Kids unfortunately do not start school on a level playing field. Schools can't level all the differences. If we were able and willing to meet kids where they are, spend more time reteaching kids who need repetition to get concepts and spend time building background knowledge for kids that need that, we'd end up with more kids happy and thriving in school. Unfortunately, we want to pretend different needs don't exist, all kids can meet the same benchmarks in the same time frame, and we consequently teach to an almost non-existent middle which leaves a lot of kids bored and a lot of kids perpetually confused.

But why????? How do we change this?

First, you have to admit far leftist policies resulted in this disaster. Then you have to get back to the basics of accountability. Kids don't hand in he on time? Zero. Kids don't attend class? Zero. There are no make up sessions and 50% awards for not showing up to work in real life. Look, accountability and common sense education WILL mean there will be some brown kids who fail and cannot keep up. So what? It is far more racist to assume they cannot do the work and be held accountable to high quality standards.

Everyone wants equitable outcomes, for sure. But throwing all standards out the window to reach that goal is a fatal mistake. Nothing will change until voters stop voting for far left liberal loons and their policies. It's truly remarkable how people have congitive dissonance and cannot associate the rapid decline of MCPS with their voting behaviors.

MCPS and MoCo are permanently screwed and will be in steep decline, because do you think they'll ever stop voting far left? One party rule with carte blanche to do whatever and never be held accountable to anyone.

Change all of that first and then you can get back to the basics of quality education.

I would say right-wing policies resulted in this. The GOP's whole jam is to dumb down the population in order to expand their base. This is who mainly benefits from these policies.

Lmao, right wing policies in MoCo resulted in this debacle. Now I've heard it all!

You clearly must be a product of MCPS with this absolutely laughable failure in basic logic.

Typical right-wing astroturfer always trying to skirt any responsibility for their actions!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know parents hate hearing this, but this is a huge parent problem. (And no, just because I'm writing this doesnt mean ALL parents. I'm not attacking you personally.) In general though...I had a girl walking around my class, filming kids WITHOUT their permission, she was defiant as I told her to put it away or I'd take it away. Instead, she called her mom on speaker and told her mom I threatened to take her phone away...mom started screaming through the phone I had zero rights to do this, started yelling profanity, etc...she shut off her phone smugly...smiled at me and said, "see, it doesnt matter. My mom doesnt care." I wish I was making this up. I informed principal and she just said, "our hands are tied." This isn't a sustainable profession or job anymore. The future is bleak.

You have a bad principal. He or she should give a detention or suspend the kid for a day. And, have a room for kids who misbehave, kicked out of class. Simple.

LOL! Where are you posting from? Are you a troll from China?

There is NO such thing as detention in MCPS. Not in MS and not in HS. It is simply not an option. A room for kids who misbehave? LOL. In ES, we have kids throwing chairs and it's pretty much impossible to kick them out of class.

None of what you write is an option in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of it is true, but we have a few really good teacher this year who are holding the kids accountable and really tuff with grading but they are also teaching them the the skills that they didn't get in ES or MS. The teachers can do far more and some choose not to. The worst are the ones who will not read or return email when you try to work with them.

Parents don’t care. Period. I have 12 kids who had over 26 absences each in quarter 1. It’s time for a mirror.

Our 1st quarter report cards went out on Wednesday and the principal has already gotten upset parents contacting him. This was the first year I've included in my comments how many unexcused absences a student has during the quarter (for students who are headed toward chronic absenteeism). Apparently some of my student's parents didn't like reading, "Larlo/Larla has had _____ unexcused absences this quarter. I guess the truth hurts. We have two FT people at our school whose sole job it is to figure out how to get kids to come to school and cut down on chronic absenteeism. We hit 50%+ chronically absent students last school year.

Our student's test scores factor in to our end of year evaluation but it's only if our students miss around 50 days of school are they exempted from our calculation. I have students exempted every year and ones that nearly meet this number. Let's just say that a student missing 45 days has no chance in he** of meeting my target.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever. Let the kids ‘pass’, graduate, and learn the hard way that their slacking off will not land them a career. They can work a crappy job and be miserable, get fired for not coming in, and deal with the consequences. These are not little kids- these are soon to be adults who have made a choice. Teachers- stop wasting your energy on these students/parents that don’t respect what you do. We can’t save them all and instead, focus your energy on the ones that want to learn and the ones you can make an impact on. I changed my ways in the last two years and it has made teaching so much more enjoyable and meaningful.

You must not have SLOs where you are. At my school, we were given a list of the lowest performers and told to focus on them for the SLO. In 2 months, I have to show multi-point data that they have improved although all of them are two or more years behind and one is chronically absent.

Virginia has slo. This is mcps.

SLOs are different from the SOLs.

SLOs are Student Learning Objectives, and I believe MCPS uses these. (I used to teach in PGCPS, where SLOs were an absolute joke.)

I think SLOs are a requirement in all MD districts. I teach in Baltimore City where SLO scores are 35% of my EOY evaluation. I just posted previously about how student attendance is screwing so many teachers on our SLOs.