Yes, all thief's are volunteers. You are correct. We should let them steal because they are unpaid. Carjackers are very busy now. Leave your keys in your car from now on to help them out. |
Your deranged thinking is that the biggest issue PTAs are facing is theft when it’s actually parent involvement. You’re comparing PTA moms with thieves and carjackers. I’m wondering how your crazy demeanor is received in your PTA, my guess is you didn't exactly receive a warm welcome. It’s possible this rejection is the source of your anger. Unfortunately for you, this attitude will result in even more rejection in a vicious cycle. |
The name calling is a good look for a supposed pta officer. Keep demanding that rules not be followed. It helps the credibility of ptas in mcps. Theft has been documented in ptas, local and state, and in mcps. You support theft. That is your right. |
Maryland state and MCCPTA are two different bodies. The state little PTA has already been formed. And I think you and some folks in this thread illustrate the point, folks don’t want to follow rules for a PTA which is a legal nonprofit organization, nor do they want to do the actual work. |
MD state is the umbrella organization for MCCPTA. They are intermixed. The non-profit status funds under the state organization, which is why they temporarily had to move to Delaware. If PTA's were smart they'd get their own non-profit status. It goes school, then MCCPTA, then State then Federal. That's why the school pta has to pay dues to all three. |
Of course there is theft in PTA's (moms and dads and other relatives who run them). Anyone suggesting to run thing through their personal accounts is very shady. Room parent is different as there is no organization or non-profit status but speaking from experience I will buy stuff and give my own gifts to teachers as I'm the one whose been burned by another room parent who kept the money. |
No, I want the money to go to the school, students and teachers instead of lining your pocket. If you are so defensive about accountability and/or think its ok to put PTA money in your personal account, then its a huge red flag. |
It isn’t a huge issue, in 5 years of auditing PTA finances I haven’t encountered a single instance of theft, often people spend their money and don’t expect to be reimbursed. I’ve seen corner cutting, laziness, incompetence, never theft. |
You are talking what one PTA. And, how would you know if there is theft when things are done with cash. |
You really are kooky. So people volunteer for hundreds of hours a year so they could steal $100 that would go to their kids school anyways. Got it! Congratulations, in addition to having a horrible personality you’re also not very bright. |
+1 That’s money parents already donate to school, at ours a few hundreds per family is typical. Why would people steal money they donated anyways? Bizarre to say the least. |
Exactly this! |
As a state leader for PTA, it is completely against the national standards of affiliation to use Venmo. According to the National PTA Finance Policies & Procedures Manual, cash received from donations should be deposited into the bank as soon as possible. If funds can't be immediately deposited, they should be securely locked on school premises, such as the school safe. Funds should never be kept in a member's home, or deposited into a personal account, school account, or the account of any other organization or group. PTAs should avoid using peer-to-peer (P2P) platforms such as Venmo, Zelle, or Cash App for banking needs. These platforms aren't developed to serve groups, especially nonprofits like PTAs, and do not support nonprofit accounts or offer bank level security.
Instead, PTAs can use online payment collection systems designed for business use, such as PayPal, Square, Stripe or merchant account such as Givebacks (formerly Memberhub). Authorized expenses may be paid from this type of account as long as all PTA financial policies and procedures are followed. If a PTA accepts credit cards as a form of payment, they must comply with all rules and procedures required to stay in compliance with Payment Card Industry Data Security Standards (PCI DSS). Following these standards can protect PTAs from issues of liability and fraud. If your PTA is collecting funds into any personal accounts or P2P accounts, you risk losing your PTA charter and may face legal consequences as well. I highly suggest that any PTA that is doing this stop and correct your process as soon as possible. As someone who has seen this happen to our state, it is a very drawn out process to try to obtain a charter again after it is revoked by National PTA. Please contact your state PTA for guidance and assistance when running your PTA. Forums such as these will not provide you with accurate information unless they are a board member of a state or National PTA. |
This is true except for Zelle which absolutely offers bank level security, standards and can be setup for use by groups. Groups need to check with their bank if they offer it for their account. |