PTA issues

[Anonymous]

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OP, I would report it to the MCCPTA and ask them to shut down the commingling of funds and use of personal Venmo. Even people with good intentions in the beginning could end up taking money here and there if they have financial pressures, or just have lax ethics.

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Great idea.

MCCPTA is a show and they aren't going to do anything if there is an issue. There have been PTA's in the past with issues and they never got involved. They have the same people running it who refuse to step down and don't even have kids in MCPS anymore. They are completely not responsive or helpful except to collect dues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s not enough information on how Venmo was used and what amount. If it’s a $10 T-shirt sale or a $500 donation, it makes a difference. Can the OP say in what context was used?

Another point, what’s OPs position in the PTA. If she’s an officer she could have access to financial documents, and if something is going on, it would be very easy to spot.

It’s far more likely people are lazy than there’s some malfeasance going on.

For what is worth I have given a donation through Venmo to the PTA former president, current secretary. She was organizing a camping trip and asked that if a family attends, a $75 donation is made to the school. My membership was not current at the time, didn’t want to go through the hassle of updating it, so I just asked that I give her the money and she gives it to school. PTAs are neighborhood organizations, kids know each other, parents are friends etc. occasional use of Venmo is not indicative of crimes being committed.

For any amount, it's highly inappropriate as it is a non-profit organization with accountability. All transitions have to be documented. Cash is fine if she deposits it directly and has a good accounting but something going into her personal bank account or venmo is not. Most people don't look at the PTA finances. Most don't even discuss it at the meetings. We give a breakdown at our meetings but that's very rare. The camping trip may not have been PTA sponsored so that might be different but for anything else it needs to go through the PTA accounts only.

You’re making a big deal out of nothing.

STOP. It's not legal to commingle private and nonprofit funds in a private account. Usually, people get away with it because PTAs are usually smaller dollar enterprises.

Then I suggest you raise this issue at the next general PTA meeting. Let us know how it went.

Comingling money is not a crime, no matter how much you’d like it to be. Embezzlement is a crime but that would imply the money is used for a different purpose. Regardless of your dislike of the PTA president, you should appreciate the time people put in to volunteer for the school, give them the benefit of the doubt and be gracious.

Some of us are highly ethical and show full accountability. It’s rare a pta goes into that much detail. Ours does but that’s because a few of us choose to account for every dime.

Seriously, bring it up at the next meeting, I’m sure like minded people would appreciate your effort for transparency and accountability.

I have been the local PTSA treasurer who cleaned up a co-mingled fund mess made by a previous PTSa president and treasurer, so you can silence your snarky remarks.

That never happened.

You do sound very intense though. Really confused about what you want. Are you just venting on DCUM, asking for advice, checking to see if others think the same as you?

What’s your action plan? You don’t seem to want to bring it to the general meeting, possibly because it would be quite embarrassing. You want to write to the parent organization to “shut it down”. I’m doubting you ever dealt with MDPTA, they are happy if they get their audit forms in.

You seriously sound unhinged. If you don’t like how things are run, step in, or get out of the way. Don’t donate if you think things are not run properly.

Another poster - ours is on the up and up and we do a financial section at each and every meeting with full accountability. At another school we are involved with everything is very secret and they have plenty of money and yet constantly asking for food and other donations so it very much makes me wonder where the money goes as we've done far more staff appreciation with very little money than they've done when they have a lot of money.

[Anonymous]

It’s mind boggling some think people volunteering for their kids school do it for some nefarious reason, like stealing $100 at the bake sale.

I suspect it’s just the OP sock puppet posting.

If you really are this type of person, I kindly ask you to refrain from getting involved in your schools PTA, save the toxic attitude for your friends and family.

Shocking how the crazy moms badmouth the room parent or other PTA parents with no evidence. Just disgusting gossip and speculation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s mind boggling some think people volunteering for their kids school do it for some nefarious reason, like stealing $100 at the bake sale.

I suspect it’s just the OP sock puppet posting.

If you really are this type of person, I kindly ask you to refrain from getting involved in your schools PTA, save the toxic attitude for your friends and family.

Shocking how the crazy moms badmouth the room parent or other PTA parents with no evidence. Just disgusting gossip and speculation.

Lots if documented evidence. Factual and even arrests. Shocking is stupidity of people who ignore reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s mind boggling some think people volunteering for their kids school do it for some nefarious reason, like stealing $100 at the bake sale.

I suspect it’s just the OP sock puppet posting.

If you really are this type of person, I kindly ask you to refrain from getting involved in your schools PTA, save the toxic attitude for your friends and family.

Shocking how the crazy moms badmouth the room parent or other PTA parents with no evidence. Just disgusting gossip and speculation.

I have been a room parent with another parent who stole the money. I had to pay for the parties as the teacher told Mets he collected it and gave it to the other parent who would not buy anything give me the money.

[Anonymous]

Local fraud

https://wjla.com/news/local/nearly-40000-missing-from-montgomery-county-pta-group

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s mind boggling some think people volunteering for their kids school do it for some nefarious reason, like stealing $100 at the bake sale.

I suspect it’s just the OP sock puppet posting.

If you really are this type of person, I kindly ask you to refrain from getting involved in your schools PTA, save the toxic attitude for your friends and family.

Shocking how the crazy moms badmouth the room parent or other PTA parents with no evidence. Just disgusting gossip and speculation.

Lots if documented evidence. Factual and even arrests. Shocking is stupidity of people who ignore reality.

If someone would bring this up without solid evidence to back it up, 100% I would stop talking to that person. To insinuate people are stealing is so low class and pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s mind boggling some think people volunteering for their kids school do it for some nefarious reason, like stealing $100 at the bake sale.

I suspect it’s just the OP sock puppet posting.

If you really are this type of person, I kindly ask you to refrain from getting involved in your schools PTA, save the toxic attitude for your friends and family.

Shocking how the crazy moms badmouth the room parent or other PTA parents with no evidence. Just disgusting gossip and speculation.

Lots if documented evidence. Factual and even arrests. Shocking is stupidity of people who ignore reality.

If someone would bring this up without solid evidence to back it up, 100% I would stop talking to that person. To insinuate people are stealing is so low class and pathetic.

Then stop. Rules exist for a reason, to prevent theft. Safeguarding parents contributions is being respectful of oarents. Not following rules shows parents their contributions are not valued.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP, I would report it to the MCCPTA and ask them to shut down the commingling of funds and use of personal Venmo. Even people with good intentions in the beginning could end up taking money here and there if they have financial pressures, or just have lax ethics.

+1
Great idea.

MCCPTA is a show and they aren't going to do anything if there is an issue. There have been PTA's in the past with issues and they never got involved. They have the same people running it who refuse to step down and don't even have kids in MCPS anymore[b]. They are completely not responsive or helpful except to collect dues.

They won’t step down or other people won’t step up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s mind boggling some think people volunteering for their kids school do it for some nefarious reason, like stealing $100 at the bake sale.

I suspect it’s just the OP sock puppet posting.

If you really are this type of person, I kindly ask you to refrain from getting involved in your schools PTA, save the toxic attitude for your friends and family.

Shocking how the crazy moms badmouth the room parent or other PTA parents with no evidence. Just disgusting gossip and speculation.

Lots if documented evidence. Factual and even arrests. Shocking is stupidity of people who ignore reality.

If someone would bring this up without solid evidence to back it up, 100% I would stop talking to that person. To insinuate people are stealing is so low class and pathetic.

Then stop. Rules exist for a reason, to prevent theft. Safeguarding parents contributions is being respectful of oarents. Not following rules shows parents their contributions are not valued.

You are focused on theft from PTAs to an unhealthy degree. I think your issues are elsewhere. Do you feel left out from your current organization, don’t get along with the leadership, disagree with how things are run? All are valid reasons for discontent, but to jump to accusations of theft is a step too far. You can also argue that the way things are run is a reflection of general membership voting. Step up, throw your hat in the ring and work to change things in the right way, not gossiping behind people’s back.

From my experience you’d probably not be very good at leading a PTA. It’s not about who’s wright or wrong, leadership is about motivating people to work towards a common goal. Given that PTAs are volunteer run, you need a lot of good will and trust, both of which you seem to lack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s mind boggling some think people volunteering for their kids school do it for some nefarious reason, like stealing $100 at the bake sale.

I suspect it’s just the OP sock puppet posting.

If you really are this type of person, I kindly ask you to refrain from getting involved in your schools PTA, save the toxic attitude for your friends and family.

Shocking how the crazy moms badmouth the room parent or other PTA parents with no evidence. Just disgusting gossip and speculation.

Lots if documented evidence. Factual and even arrests. Shocking is stupidity of people who ignore reality.

If someone would bring this up without solid evidence to back it up, 100% I would stop talking to that person. To insinuate people are stealing is so low class and pathetic.

Then stop. Rules exist for a reason, to prevent theft. Safeguarding parents contributions is being respectful of oarents. Not following rules shows parents their contributions are not valued.

You are focused on theft from PTAs to an unhealthy degree. I think your issues are elsewhere. Do you feel left out from your current organization, don’t get along with the leadership, disagree with how things are run? All are valid reasons for discontent, but to jump to accusations of theft is a step too far. You can also argue that the way things are run is a reflection of general membership voting. Step up, throw your hat in the ring and work to change things in the right way, not gossiping behind people’s back.

From my experience you’d probably not be very good at leading a PTA. It’s not about who’s wright or wrong, leadership is about motivating people to work towards a common goal. Given that PTAs are volunteer run, you need a lot of good will and trust, both of which you seem to lack.

You are obsessed with not following the rules. Thanks for being such an easy mark. When anyone robs or steals from you remember they are just volunteers. Don’t call police or cancel your credit card. All thief's are volunteers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s mind boggling some think people volunteering for their kids school do it for some nefarious reason, like stealing $100 at the bake sale.

I suspect it’s just the OP sock puppet posting.

If you really are this type of person, I kindly ask you to refrain from getting involved in your schools PTA, save the toxic attitude for your friends and family.

Shocking how the crazy moms badmouth the room parent or other PTA parents with no evidence. Just disgusting gossip and speculation.

Lots if documented evidence. Factual and even arrests. Shocking is stupidity of people who ignore reality.

If someone would bring this up without solid evidence to back it up, 100% I would stop talking to that person. To insinuate people are stealing is so low class and pathetic.

Then stop. Rules exist for a reason, to prevent theft. Safeguarding parents contributions is being respectful of oarents. Not following rules shows parents their contributions are not valued.

You are focused on theft from PTAs to an unhealthy degree. I think your issues are elsewhere. Do you feel left out from your current organization, don’t get along with the leadership, disagree with how things are run? All are valid reasons for discontent, but to jump to accusations of theft is a step too far. You can also argue that the way things are run is a reflection of general membership voting. Step up, throw your hat in the ring and work to change things in the right way, not gossiping behind people’s back.

From my experience you’d probably not be very good at leading a PTA. It’s not about who’s wright or wrong, leadership is about motivating people to work towards a common goal. Given that PTAs are volunteer run, you need a lot of good will and trust, both of which you seem to lack.

You are obsessed with not following the rules. Thanks for being such an easy mark. When anyone robs or steals from you remember they are just volunteers. Don’t call police or cancel your credit card. All thief's are volunteers.

You’re just proving my point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s mind boggling some think people volunteering for their kids school do it for some nefarious reason, like stealing $100 at the bake sale.

I suspect it’s just the OP sock puppet posting.

If you really are this type of person, I kindly ask you to refrain from getting involved in your schools PTA, save the toxic attitude for your friends and family.

Shocking how the crazy moms badmouth the room parent or other PTA parents with no evidence. Just disgusting gossip and speculation.

Lots if documented evidence. Factual and even arrests. Shocking is stupidity of people who ignore reality.

If someone would bring this up without solid evidence to back it up, 100% I would stop talking to that person. To insinuate people are stealing is so low class and pathetic.

Then stop. Rules exist for a reason, to prevent theft. Safeguarding parents contributions is being respectful of oarents. Not following rules shows parents their contributions are not valued.

You are focused on theft from PTAs to an unhealthy degree. I think your issues are elsewhere. Do you feel left out from your current organization, don’t get along with the leadership, disagree with how things are run? All are valid reasons for discontent, but to jump to accusations of theft is a step too far. You can also argue that the way things are run is a reflection of general membership voting. Step up, throw your hat in the ring and work to change things in the right way, not gossiping behind people’s back.

From my experience you’d probably not be very good at leading a PTA. It’s not about who’s wright or wrong, leadership is about motivating people to work towards a common goal. Given that PTAs are volunteer run, you need a lot of good will and trust, both of which you seem to lack.

No, I have been very involved with one of ours for several years. I have also left ones not well run and very shady. I have seen lots of shady stuff. Ours has been very well run with very little money as we got very creative.

Let me guess. You just like to throw stones or someone that insists on running the pta and does little. Or very questionable things and those of us who run it properly you try to run out to hide what you are doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP, I would report it to the MCCPTA and ask them to shut down the commingling of funds and use of personal Venmo. Even people with good intentions in the beginning could end up taking money here and there if they have financial pressures, or just have lax ethics.

+1
Great idea.

MCCPTA is a show and they aren't going to do anything if there is an issue. There have been PTA's in the past with issues and they never got involved. They have the same people running it who refuse to step down and don't even have kids in MCPS anymore[b]. They are completely not responsive or helpful except to collect dues.

They won’t step down or other people won’t step up?

No one wants to deal with them. There are too many issues. The Maryland state was shut down because of fraud and other things. The are having to start a new one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s mind boggling some think people volunteering for their kids school do it for some nefarious reason, like stealing $100 at the bake sale.

I suspect it’s just the OP sock puppet posting.

If you really are this type of person, I kindly ask you to refrain from getting involved in your schools PTA, save the toxic attitude for your friends and family.

Shocking how the crazy moms badmouth the room parent or other PTA parents with no evidence. Just disgusting gossip and speculation.

Lots if documented evidence. Factual and even arrests. Shocking is stupidity of people who ignore reality.

If someone would bring this up without solid evidence to back it up, 100% I would stop talking to that person. To insinuate people are stealing is so low class and pathetic.

Then stop. Rules exist for a reason, to prevent theft. Safeguarding parents contributions is being respectful of oarents. Not following rules shows parents their contributions are not valued.

You are focused on theft from PTAs to an unhealthy degree. I think your issues are elsewhere. Do you feel left out from your current organization, don’t get along with the leadership, disagree with how things are run? All are valid reasons for discontent, but to jump to accusations of theft is a step too far. You can also argue that the way things are run is a reflection of general membership voting. Step up, throw your hat in the ring and work to change things in the right way, not gossiping behind people’s back.

From my experience you’d probably not be very good at leading a PTA. It’s not about who’s wright or wrong, leadership is about motivating people to work towards a common goal. Given that PTAs are volunteer run, you need a lot of good will and trust, both of which you seem to lack.

No, I have been very involved with one of ours for several years. I have also left ones not well run and very shady. I have seen lots of shady stuff. Ours has been very well run with very little money as we got very creative.

Let me guess. You just like to throw stones or someone that insists on running the pta and does little. Or very questionable things and those of us who run it properly you try to run out to hide what you are doing.

Yeah, you have the social skills of a toddler throwing tantrums.