Auto admit to GMU

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Anonymous wrote:Seems quite brilliant on GMU's part.

Agree! PP lamenting that ACPS is “only 22% white” is hilarious. No one is stopping you from moving there!

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This pilot will be statewide by 2025, 2026 at the latest.

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I will be interested to see how many ACHS seniors actually take the spots. A lot of students choose to attend NOVA, likely due to cost considerations. GMU is relatively affordable, but not nearly as affordable as two years at NOVA and then guaranteed transfer.

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Anonymous wrote:I will be interested to see how many ACHS seniors actually take the spots. A lot of students choose to attend NOVA, likely due to cost considerations. GMU is relatively affordable, but not nearly as affordable as two years at NOVA and then guaranteed transfer.

seriously

but I ran the numbers, and it looks like JUST tuition is close to $60K-ish for 4 years even if you live at home. I paid about $10K all in for a masters degree there ;P It is ridiculous

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Anonymous wrote:I will be interested to see how many ACHS seniors actually take the spots. A lot of students choose to attend NOVA, likely due to cost considerations. GMU is relatively affordable, but not nearly as affordable as two years at NOVA and then guaranteed transfer.

seriously

but I ran the numbers, and it looks like JUST tuition is close to $60K-ish for 4 years even if you live at home. I paid about $10K all in for a masters degree there ;P It is ridiculous

I’m guessing there will be very few who actually take advantage of this but if they do they should receive financial aid if they need it.

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Anonymous wrote:I will be interested to see how many ACHS seniors actually take the spots. A lot of students choose to attend NOVA, likely due to cost considerations. GMU is relatively affordable, but not nearly as affordable as two years at NOVA and then guaranteed transfer.

seriously

but I ran the numbers, and it looks like JUST tuition is close to $60K-ish for 4 years even if you live at home. I paid about $10K all in for a masters degree there ;P It is ridiculous

+1. When my DC went to GMU we had another DC at UVA. GMU was more expensive. But compared to private options now eclipsing $90k a year, state schools are still a great deal

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Anonymous wrote:OP, stop picking fights with ghosts. GMU's claim to fame is not selectivity; it's the high academic performance of its students relative to its non-selectivity, due to an aggressive scholarship/discount program.

Hear, Hear!

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone explained why a public university is allowed to have a different admission standard for one single city and not any other jurisdiction in the state?

Why on earth wouldn’t it “be allowed”?

Anyone can move to ACPS if they feel like the admissions process is too difficult for them.

GMU serves the whole state, not ACPS.

OK. And... Why on earth wouldn't it "be allowed"?

DP but I suspect the pilot program won't withstand a court challenge. why should only one county in an entire state get a priviletged program? Why am I, a Fairfax county taxpayer paying for a program for ACPS students - which effectively takes spots away from my own children? I'm really surprised this one got by the lawyers on GMU's board. Doesn't this violate equal protection laws?

Challenge of what exactly?

It’s not taking away spots, it’s removing barriers for applications. GMU accepts many, many students and these students would likely have been admitted anyway. Part of its mission is to be inclusive. First gen students is a key focus of that.
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That's pretty obvious. GMU is giving special perks to a particular high school in Alexandria, VA. 3.25 is below the 25th percentile for GMU. This is an end-run around the SCOTUS decision to get minority students. Of course the program won't withstand a court challenge. Why would it? I know lawyers on the board and am really surprised it made it this far. Of course, any board can throw out a proposal like this but then the university has to pay for counsel to defend it in court, which is a sad misuse of taxpayer money. And it cannot stand. Check in a year from now on this. Public universities cannot select a particular high school based upon demographics and give their students access that is not available to anyone else in the state. That should be obvious to anyone. It's just sloppy. Even California has not done this

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone explained why a public university is allowed to have a different admission standard for one single city and not any other jurisdiction in the state?

Why on earth wouldn’t it “be allowed”?

Anyone can move to ACPS if they feel like the admissions process is too difficult for them.

GMU serves the whole state, not ACPS.

OK. And... Why on earth wouldn't it "be allowed"?

DP but I suspect the pilot program won't withstand a court challenge. why should only one county in an entire state get a priviletged program? Why am I, a Fairfax county taxpayer paying for a program for ACPS students - which effectively takes spots away from my own children? I'm really surprised this one got by the lawyers on GMU's board. Doesn't this violate equal protection laws?

Challenge of what exactly?

It’s not taking away spots, it’s removing barriers for applications. GMU accepts many, many students and these students would likely have been admitted anyway. Part of its mission is to be inclusive. First gen students is a key focus of that.
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That's pretty obvious. GMU is giving special perks to a particular high school in Alexandria, VA. 3.25 is below the 25th percentile for GMU. This is an end-run around the SCOTUS decision to get minority students. Of course the program won't withstand a court challenge. Why would it? I know lawyers on the board and am really surprised it made it this far. Of course, any board can throw out a proposal like this but then the university has to pay for counsel to defend it in court, which is a sad misuse of taxpayer money. And it cannot stand. Check in a year from now on this. Public universities cannot select a particular high school based upon demographics and give their students access that is not available to anyone else in the state. That should be obvious to anyone. It's just sloppy. Even California has not done this

Is parent education level a protected class?

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Anonymous wrote:This pilot will be statewide by 2025, 2026 at the latest.

No, it won't. GMU can't do a pilot like this on one high school, especially when a 3.25 is below the 25th percentile for the entire school. This is a clear end-run around the scotus decision. there will be a court challenge and GMU will lose. Why? think. How is this fair to all of the kids in VIRGINIA? This is a public school? Privates can do what they want. Publics can't. There has to be across the board entry standards for publics. One high school can't be curried out for favor.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, stop picking fights with ghosts. GMU's claim to fame is not selectivity; it's the high academic performance of its students relative to its non-selectivity, due to an aggressive scholarship/discount program.

Hear, Hear!

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I will be interested to see how many ACHS seniors actually take the spots. A lot of students choose to attend NOVA, likely due to cost considerations. GMU is relatively affordable, but not nearly as affordable as two years at NOVA and then guaranteed transfer.

seriously

but I ran the numbers, and it looks like JUST tuition is close to $60K-ish for 4 years even if you live at home. I paid about $10K all in for a masters degree there ;P It is ridiculous

So what about you? Private at USC and other colleges is now $92K a year which menas $400k a year.. GMU was a breath of fresh air for us instate.

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Anonymous wrote:I will be interested to see how many ACHS seniors actually take the spots. A lot of students choose to attend NOVA, likely due to cost considerations. GMU is relatively affordable, but not nearly as affordable as two years at NOVA and then guaranteed transfer.

seriously

but I ran the numbers, and it looks like JUST tuition is close to $60K-ish for 4 years even if you live at home. I paid about $10K all in for a masters degree there ;P It is ridiculous

So what about you? Private at USC and other colleges is now $92K a year which menas $400k a year.. GMU was a breath of fresh air for us instate.

Simmer

I just think that it is crazy that tuition has gone up at least 3x since I got my grad degree.

I think anyone paying $90k+ per year for a college is out of their damn mind

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The GMU pilot includes 8 high schools in Virginia. Not just ACHS. Also GMU was already doing this via the common app before the pilot started this year.

https://www.gmu.edu/news/2023-10/mason-pilots-eight-local-high-school-partnerships-university-managed-direct-admissions

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Anonymous wrote:This pilot will be statewide by 2025, 2026 at the latest.

No, it won't. GMU can't do a pilot like this on one high school, especially when a 3.25 is below the 25th percentile for the entire school. This is a clear end-run around the scotus decision. there will be a court challenge and GMU will lose. Why? think. How is this fair to all of the kids in VIRGINIA? This is a public school? Privates can do what they want. Publics can't. There has to be across the board entry standards for publics. One high school can't be curried out for favor.

You are quite the know it all aren’t you?