How can we make DC streets bicycle and pedestrian-only?

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Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?


Please move downtown if you want this lifestyle. It’s already there. Stop screwing up the single family neighborhoods with this nonsense. We like our car lifestyle just fine.


Do you ever consider how damaging that lifestyle is for everyone else?

I like my car too but basing arguments against cleaner, safer, more efficient and more equitable infrastructure on that is a little pathetic.
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Anonymous wrote:Most bike riders in the city are complete assh01es about it, riding on sidewalks super fast expecting pedestrians to go out of their way, not obeying traffic signals, not stopping for pedestrians to cross. I would a 100% support a bill to outlaw bikes in most of the city. don't even get me started on the electric scooters. Until people in the city can pass a strict course on etiquette on how to ride bikes and scooters, they should use busses/metro and walk.


So you support the OP in wanting streets with no cars on them. Buses/Metro or walk, only.


I actually don't care about cars so much. I just hate bikes and scooters. I walk everywhere and cars usually stop at traffic lights and don't try to run me over on the sidewalk.


Oh, you again. Worrying about the hangnail instead of the arterial bleeding.


Oh you're just a d&&k on a scooter passing me on the sidewalk going 45mph and telling me to get out of the way. I will vote for anyone who vows to get those things off the streets and sidewalks.


The scooters are capped at 10mph bud.
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Anonymous wrote:For one, our metro system is inadequate, there aren't enough stations.

I live and work in DC, but with an elementary kid in school, it would take me (checks google maps)... 25 min to get my kid to school that's a 10-15 min drive away, then another (checks google maps) 45-55 min to get myself to work that's a 25-30 min drive normally.

This is living in NE, with kids in school in NE, with my work also in NE.

No thanks.


You do realize you're literally driving at bike speed? Probably slower depending on where in NE.

The reason it takes you so long is because of traffic and lights (aka too many cars).

Now imagine your trips if DC had half as many cars.


DP. This is the real answer. It’s not banning all cars, it’s banning any non-DC plates. Or making them pay huge tolls to drive in the city. Anything that reduces MD and VA plates would be fine by me!


Cyclists are almost entirely white. Drivers are disproportionately black and brown (because they're less likely to be able to afford to live close to where they work)

All these cockamamie schemes to help cyclists and punish drivers boil down to privileging white people and hurting black and brown people.


You're wrong about this, it's been demonstrated to you multiple times that you're wrong about this, and yet here you still are, repeating yourself wrongly about this.


Sounds like you are unfamiliar with both cyclists and our suburbs.


Nope, that's you. You're just wrong about this.


I guess the fact that most of the cyclists who have died in traffic/related fatalities in the city in the past year have been either older black guys or white women means they just have such terrible luck because "those people" aren't riding bikes, its just middle-aged white guys who are?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For one, our metro system is inadequate, there aren't enough stations.

I live and work in DC, but with an elementary kid in school, it would take me (checks google maps)... 25 min to get my kid to school that's a 10-15 min drive away, then another (checks google maps) 45-55 min to get myself to work that's a 25-30 min drive normally.

This is living in NE, with kids in school in NE, with my work also in NE.

No thanks.


You do realize you're literally driving at bike speed? Probably slower depending on where in NE.

The reason it takes you so long is because of traffic and lights (aka too many cars).

Now imagine your trips if DC had half as many cars.


DP. This is the real answer. It’s not banning all cars, it’s banning any non-DC plates. Or making them pay huge tolls to drive in the city. Anything that reduces MD and VA plates would be fine by me!


Cyclists are almost entirely white. Drivers are disproportionately black and brown (because they're less likely to be able to afford to live close to where they work)

All these cockamamie schemes to help cyclists and punish drivers boil down to privileging white people and hurting black and brown people.


It’s not about race. Or even bikes, really. I would like to limit out of state plates regardless of the race of the driver to make living in this city more pleasant for everyone. If a non-white person has a car with DC plates they are welcome to drive around all day in my version of DC.


Just curious... how much does DC bring in through tourism?
You really want to limit those out of state plates?


It's actually much more convenient, for almost all tourists, NOT to use a car while tourist-ing in DC. And cheaper, too.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For one, our metro system is inadequate, there aren't enough stations.

I live and work in DC, but with an elementary kid in school, it would take me (checks google maps)... 25 min to get my kid to school that's a 10-15 min drive away, then another (checks google maps) 45-55 min to get myself to work that's a 25-30 min drive normally.

This is living in NE, with kids in school in NE, with my work also in NE.

No thanks.


You do realize you're literally driving at bike speed? Probably slower depending on where in NE.

The reason it takes you so long is because of traffic and lights (aka too many cars).

Now imagine your trips if DC had half as many cars.


DP. This is the real answer. It’s not banning all cars, it’s banning any non-DC plates. Or making them pay huge tolls to drive in the city. Anything that reduces MD and VA plates would be fine by me!


Cyclists are almost entirely white. Drivers are disproportionately black and brown (because they're less likely to be able to afford to live close to where they work)

All these cockamamie schemes to help cyclists and punish drivers boil down to privileging white people and hurting black and brown people.


+1
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For one, our metro system is inadequate, there aren't enough stations.

I live and work in DC, but with an elementary kid in school, it would take me (checks google maps)... 25 min to get my kid to school that's a 10-15 min drive away, then another (checks google maps) 45-55 min to get myself to work that's a 25-30 min drive normally.

This is living in NE, with kids in school in NE, with my work also in NE.

No thanks.


You do realize you're literally driving at bike speed? Probably slower depending on where in NE.

The reason it takes you so long is because of traffic and lights (aka too many cars).

Now imagine your trips if DC had half as many cars.


DP. This is the real answer. It’s not banning all cars, it’s banning any non-DC plates. Or making them pay huge tolls to drive in the city. Anything that reduces MD and VA plates would be fine by me!


Cyclists are almost entirely white. Drivers are disproportionately black and brown (because they're less likely to be able to afford to live close to where they work)

All these cockamamie schemes to help cyclists and punish drivers boil down to privileging white people and hurting black and brown people.


You're wrong about this, it's been demonstrated to you multiple times that you're wrong about this, and yet here you still are, repeating yourself wrongly about this.


Sounds like you are unfamiliar with both cyclists and our suburbs.


Nope, that's you. You're just wrong about this.


I guess the fact that most of the cyclists who have died in traffic/related fatalities in the city in the past year have been either older black guys or white women means they just have such terrible luck because "those people" aren't riding bikes, its just middle-aged white guys who are?

DP. You’re a lame and mendacious arguer. Just thought I would tell you that.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For one, our metro system is inadequate, there aren't enough stations.

I live and work in DC, but with an elementary kid in school, it would take me (checks google maps)... 25 min to get my kid to school that's a 10-15 min drive away, then another (checks google maps) 45-55 min to get myself to work that's a 25-30 min drive normally.

This is living in NE, with kids in school in NE, with my work also in NE.

No thanks.


You do realize you're literally driving at bike speed? Probably slower depending on where in NE.

The reason it takes you so long is because of traffic and lights (aka too many cars).

Now imagine your trips if DC had half as many cars.


DP. This is the real answer. It’s not banning all cars, it’s banning any non-DC plates. Or making them pay huge tolls to drive in the city. Anything that reduces MD and VA plates would be fine by me!


Cyclists are almost entirely white. Drivers are disproportionately black and brown (because they're less likely to be able to afford to live close to where they work)

All these cockamamie schemes to help cyclists and punish drivers boil down to privileging white people and hurting black and brown people.


You're wrong about this, it's been demonstrated to you multiple times that you're wrong about this, and yet here you still are, repeating yourself wrongly about this.


Sounds like you are unfamiliar with both cyclists and our suburbs.


Nope, that's you. You're just wrong about this.


I guess the fact that most of the cyclists who have died in traffic/related fatalities in the city in the past year have been either older black guys or white women means they just have such terrible luck because "those people" aren't riding bikes, its just middle-aged white guys who are?


Uh, DC averages one cyclist death per year.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For one, our metro system is inadequate, there aren't enough stations.

I live and work in DC, but with an elementary kid in school, it would take me (checks google maps)... 25 min to get my kid to school that's a 10-15 min drive away, then another (checks google maps) 45-55 min to get myself to work that's a 25-30 min drive normally.

This is living in NE, with kids in school in NE, with my work also in NE.

No thanks.


You do realize you're literally driving at bike speed? Probably slower depending on where in NE.

The reason it takes you so long is because of traffic and lights (aka too many cars).

Now imagine your trips if DC had half as many cars.


DP. This is the real answer. It’s not banning all cars, it’s banning any non-DC plates. Or making them pay huge tolls to drive in the city. Anything that reduces MD and VA plates would be fine by me!


Cyclists are almost entirely white. Drivers are disproportionately black and brown (because they're less likely to be able to afford to live close to where they work)

All these cockamamie schemes to help cyclists and punish drivers boil down to privileging white people and hurting black and brown people.


Cockamamie?

OK grandpa, OK. But now would you PLEASE GO TO BED?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For one, our metro system is inadequate, there aren't enough stations.

I live and work in DC, but with an elementary kid in school, it would take me (checks google maps)... 25 min to get my kid to school that's a 10-15 min drive away, then another (checks google maps) 45-55 min to get myself to work that's a 25-30 min drive normally.

This is living in NE, with kids in school in NE, with my work also in NE.

No thanks.


You do realize you're literally driving at bike speed? Probably slower depending on where in NE.

The reason it takes you so long is because of traffic and lights (aka too many cars).

Now imagine your trips if DC had half as many cars.


DP. This is the real answer. It’s not banning all cars, it’s banning any non-DC plates. Or making them pay huge tolls to drive in the city. Anything that reduces MD and VA plates would be fine by me!


Cyclists are almost entirely white. Drivers are disproportionately black and brown (because they're less likely to be able to afford to live close to where they work)

All these cockamamie schemes to help cyclists and punish drivers boil down to privileging white people and hurting black and brown people.


You're wrong about this, it's been demonstrated to you multiple times that you're wrong about this, and yet here you still are, repeating yourself wrongly about this.


Sounds like you are unfamiliar with both cyclists and our suburbs.


Nope, that's you. You're just wrong about this.


I guess the fact that most of the cyclists who have died in traffic/related fatalities in the city in the past year have been either older black guys or white women means they just have such terrible luck because "those people" aren't riding bikes, its just middle-aged white guys who are?


Uh, DC averages one cyclist death per year.



Last July there were five people killed by cars in DC (or just outside of it), four on bikes, one on foot. 2 were white women in their 40s, two were older black guys, the guy on foot was also an older black guy.

In 2023 we have installed 3 ghost bikes, two for older black guys EOTR and one for a nonbinary younger guy of eastern European background.

Get real. You are living in an imaginary world.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For one, our metro system is inadequate, there aren't enough stations.

I live and work in DC, but with an elementary kid in school, it would take me (checks google maps)... 25 min to get my kid to school that's a 10-15 min drive away, then another (checks google maps) 45-55 min to get myself to work that's a 25-30 min drive normally.

This is living in NE, with kids in school in NE, with my work also in NE.

No thanks.


You do realize you're literally driving at bike speed? Probably slower depending on where in NE.

The reason it takes you so long is because of traffic and lights (aka too many cars).

Now imagine your trips if DC had half as many cars.


DP. This is the real answer. It’s not banning all cars, it’s banning any non-DC plates. Or making them pay huge tolls to drive in the city. Anything that reduces MD and VA plates would be fine by me!


Cyclists are almost entirely white. Drivers are disproportionately black and brown (because they're less likely to be able to afford to live close to where they work)

All these cockamamie schemes to help cyclists and punish drivers boil down to privileging white people and hurting black and brown people.


You're wrong about this, it's been demonstrated to you multiple times that you're wrong about this, and yet here you still are, repeating yourself wrongly about this.


Sounds like you are unfamiliar with both cyclists and our suburbs.


Nope, that's you. You're just wrong about this.


I guess the fact that most of the cyclists who have died in traffic/related fatalities in the city in the past year have been either older black guys or white women means they just have such terrible luck because "those people" aren't riding bikes, its just middle-aged white guys who are?


Uh, DC averages one cyclist death per year.



Last July there were five people killed by cars in DC (or just outside of it), four on bikes, one on foot. 2 were white women in their 40s, two were older black guys, the guy on foot was also an older black guy.

In 2023 we have installed 3 ghost bikes, two for older black guys EOTR and one for a nonbinary younger guy of eastern European background.

Get real. You are living in an imaginary world.

The last one you mentioned was not hit by a car. Honestly, whatever you think you’re doing, you’re not doing very well. Maybe go to bed?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For one, our metro system is inadequate, there aren't enough stations.

I live and work in DC, but with an elementary kid in school, it would take me (checks google maps)... 25 min to get my kid to school that's a 10-15 min drive away, then another (checks google maps) 45-55 min to get myself to work that's a 25-30 min drive normally.

This is living in NE, with kids in school in NE, with my work also in NE.

No thanks.


You do realize you're literally driving at bike speed? Probably slower depending on where in NE.

The reason it takes you so long is because of traffic and lights (aka too many cars).

Now imagine your trips if DC had half as many cars.


DP. This is the real answer. It’s not banning all cars, it’s banning any non-DC plates. Or making them pay huge tolls to drive in the city. Anything that reduces MD and VA plates would be fine by me!


Cyclists are almost entirely white. Drivers are disproportionately black and brown (because they're less likely to be able to afford to live close to where they work)

All these cockamamie schemes to help cyclists and punish drivers boil down to privileging white people and hurting black and brown people.


You're wrong about this, it's been demonstrated to you multiple times that you're wrong about this, and yet here you still are, repeating yourself wrongly about this.


Sounds like you are unfamiliar with both cyclists and our suburbs.


Nope, that's you. You're just wrong about this.


I guess the fact that most of the cyclists who have died in traffic/related fatalities in the city in the past year have been either older black guys or white women means they just have such terrible luck because "those people" aren't riding bikes, its just middle-aged white guys who are?


Uh, DC averages one cyclist death per year.



Last July there were five people killed by cars in DC (or just outside of it), four on bikes, one on foot. 2 were white women in their 40s, two were older black guys, the guy on foot was also an older black guy.

In 2023 we have installed 3 ghost bikes, two for older black guys EOTR and one for a nonbinary younger guy of eastern European background.

Get real. You are living in an imaginary world.

The last one you mentioned was not hit by a car. Honestly, whatever you think you’re doing, you’re not doing very well. Maybe go to bed?


No they weren't but we still installed a ghost bike because they were a victim of traffic violence. Also, I didn't leave them out because they were the closest to a "white cyclist" being killed and if i did youd problem bring them up as some "gotcha".

Anyway, the best you can do is tell me to go to bed? How about just admit that you are wrong about your prejudices? Asking too much, I suppose.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For one, our metro system is inadequate, there aren't enough stations.

I live and work in DC, but with an elementary kid in school, it would take me (checks google maps)... 25 min to get my kid to school that's a 10-15 min drive away, then another (checks google maps) 45-55 min to get myself to work that's a 25-30 min drive normally.

This is living in NE, with kids in school in NE, with my work also in NE.

No thanks.


You do realize you're literally driving at bike speed? Probably slower depending on where in NE.

The reason it takes you so long is because of traffic and lights (aka too many cars).

Now imagine your trips if DC had half as many cars.


DP. This is the real answer. It’s not banning all cars, it’s banning any non-DC plates. Or making them pay huge tolls to drive in the city. Anything that reduces MD and VA plates would be fine by me!


Cyclists are almost entirely white. Drivers are disproportionately black and brown (because they're less likely to be able to afford to live close to where they work)

All these cockamamie schemes to help cyclists and punish drivers boil down to privileging white people and hurting black and brown people.


You're wrong about this, it's been demonstrated to you multiple times that you're wrong about this, and yet here you still are, repeating yourself wrongly about this.


Sounds like you are unfamiliar with both cyclists and our suburbs.


Nope, that's you. You're just wrong about this.


I guess the fact that most of the cyclists who have died in traffic/related fatalities in the city in the past year have been either older black guys or white women means they just have such terrible luck because "those people" aren't riding bikes, its just middle-aged white guys who are?


Uh, DC averages one cyclist death per year.



Last July there were five people killed by cars in DC (or just outside of it), four on bikes, one on foot. 2 were white women in their 40s, two were older black guys, the guy on foot was also an older black guy.

In 2023 we have installed 3 ghost bikes, two for older black guys EOTR and one for a nonbinary younger guy of eastern European background.

Get real. You are living in an imaginary world.

The last one you mentioned was not hit by a car. Honestly, whatever you think you’re doing, you’re not doing very well. Maybe go to bed?


No they weren't but we still installed a ghost bike because they were a victim of traffic violence. Also, I didn't leave them out because they were the closest to a "white cyclist" being killed and if i did youd problem bring them up as some "gotcha".

Anyway, the best you can do is tell me to go to bed? How about just admit that you are wrong about your prejudices? Asking too much, I suppose.

They were shot by a gun. That’s called actual violence.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For one, our metro system is inadequate, there aren't enough stations.

I live and work in DC, but with an elementary kid in school, it would take me (checks google maps)... 25 min to get my kid to school that's a 10-15 min drive away, then another (checks google maps) 45-55 min to get myself to work that's a 25-30 min drive normally.

This is living in NE, with kids in school in NE, with my work also in NE.

No thanks.


You do realize you're literally driving at bike speed? Probably slower depending on where in NE.

The reason it takes you so long is because of traffic and lights (aka too many cars).

Now imagine your trips if DC had half as many cars.


DP. This is the real answer. It’s not banning all cars, it’s banning any non-DC plates. Or making them pay huge tolls to drive in the city. Anything that reduces MD and VA plates would be fine by me!


Cyclists are almost entirely white. Drivers are disproportionately black and brown (because they're less likely to be able to afford to live close to where they work)

All these cockamamie schemes to help cyclists and punish drivers boil down to privileging white people and hurting black and brown people.


You're wrong about this, it's been demonstrated to you multiple times that you're wrong about this, and yet here you still are, repeating yourself wrongly about this.


Sounds like you are unfamiliar with both cyclists and our suburbs.


Nope, that's you. You're just wrong about this.


I guess the fact that most of the cyclists who have died in traffic/related fatalities in the city in the past year have been either older black guys or white women means they just have such terrible luck because "those people" aren't riding bikes, its just middle-aged white guys who are?


Uh, DC averages one cyclist death per year.



Last July there were five people killed by cars in DC (or just outside of it), four on bikes, one on foot. 2 were white women in their 40s, two were older black guys, the guy on foot was also an older black guy.

In 2023 we have installed 3 ghost bikes, two for older black guys EOTR and one for a nonbinary younger guy of eastern European background.

Get real. You are living in an imaginary world.

The last one you mentioned was not hit by a car. Honestly, whatever you think you’re doing, you’re not doing very well. Maybe go to bed?


No they weren't but we still installed a ghost bike because they were a victim of traffic violence. Also, I didn't leave them out because they were the closest to a "white cyclist" being killed and if i did youd problem bring them up as some "gotcha".

Anyway, the best you can do is tell me to go to bed? How about just admit that you are wrong about your prejudices? Asking too much, I suppose.

They were shot by a gun. That’s called actual violence.


Because of road rage. Which is traffic violence.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For one, our metro system is inadequate, there aren't enough stations.

I live and work in DC, but with an elementary kid in school, it would take me (checks google maps)... 25 min to get my kid to school that's a 10-15 min drive away, then another (checks google maps) 45-55 min to get myself to work that's a 25-30 min drive normally.

This is living in NE, with kids in school in NE, with my work also in NE.

No thanks.


You do realize you're literally driving at bike speed? Probably slower depending on where in NE.

The reason it takes you so long is because of traffic and lights (aka too many cars).

Now imagine your trips if DC had half as many cars.


DP. This is the real answer. It’s not banning all cars, it’s banning any non-DC plates. Or making them pay huge tolls to drive in the city. Anything that reduces MD and VA plates would be fine by me!


Cyclists are almost entirely white. Drivers are disproportionately black and brown (because they're less likely to be able to afford to live close to where they work)

All these cockamamie schemes to help cyclists and punish drivers boil down to privileging white people and hurting black and brown people.


You're wrong about this, it's been demonstrated to you multiple times that you're wrong about this, and yet here you still are, repeating yourself wrongly about this.


Sounds like you are unfamiliar with both cyclists and our suburbs.


Nope, that's you. You're just wrong about this.


I guess the fact that most of the cyclists who have died in traffic/related fatalities in the city in the past year have been either older black guys or white women means they just have such terrible luck because "those people" aren't riding bikes, its just middle-aged white guys who are?


Uh, DC averages one cyclist death per year.



Last July there were five people killed by cars in DC (or just outside of it), four on bikes, one on foot. 2 were white women in their 40s, two were older black guys, the guy on foot was also an older black guy.

In 2023 we have installed 3 ghost bikes, two for older black guys EOTR and one for a nonbinary younger guy of eastern European background.

Get real. You are living in an imaginary world.

The last one you mentioned was not hit by a car. Honestly, whatever you think you’re doing, you’re not doing very well. Maybe go to bed?


No they weren't but we still installed a ghost bike because they were a victim of traffic violence. Also, I didn't leave them out because they were the closest to a "white cyclist" being killed and if i did youd problem bring them up as some "gotcha".

Anyway, the best you can do is tell me to go to bed? How about just admit that you are wrong about your prejudices? Asking too much, I suppose.

They were shot by a gun. That’s called actual violence.


Because of road rage. Which is traffic violence.

It was a robbery. I am not sure if you are intentionally lying in a blinkered attempt to prove something or just stupid. Either way it’s pretty sad.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For one, our metro system is inadequate, there aren't enough stations.

I live and work in DC, but with an elementary kid in school, it would take me (checks google maps)... 25 min to get my kid to school that's a 10-15 min drive away, then another (checks google maps) 45-55 min to get myself to work that's a 25-30 min drive normally.

This is living in NE, with kids in school in NE, with my work also in NE.

No thanks.


You do realize you're literally driving at bike speed? Probably slower depending on where in NE.

The reason it takes you so long is because of traffic and lights (aka too many cars).

Now imagine your trips if DC had half as many cars.


DP. This is the real answer. It’s not banning all cars, it’s banning any non-DC plates. Or making them pay huge tolls to drive in the city. Anything that reduces MD and VA plates would be fine by me!


Cyclists are almost entirely white. Drivers are disproportionately black and brown (because they're less likely to be able to afford to live close to where they work)

All these cockamamie schemes to help cyclists and punish drivers boil down to privileging white people and hurting black and brown people.


You're wrong about this, it's been demonstrated to you multiple times that you're wrong about this, and yet here you still are, repeating yourself wrongly about this.


Sounds like you are unfamiliar with both cyclists and our suburbs.


Nope, that's you. You're just wrong about this.


I guess the fact that most of the cyclists who have died in traffic/related fatalities in the city in the past year have been either older black guys or white women means they just have such terrible luck because "those people" aren't riding bikes, its just middle-aged white guys who are?


Uh, DC averages one cyclist death per year.



Last July there were five people killed by cars in DC (or just outside of it), four on bikes, one on foot. 2 were white women in their 40s, two were older black guys, the guy on foot was also an older black guy.

In 2023 we have installed 3 ghost bikes, two for older black guys EOTR and one for a nonbinary younger guy of eastern European background.

Get real. You are living in an imaginary world.

The last one you mentioned was not hit by a car. Honestly, whatever you think you’re doing, you’re not doing very well. Maybe go to bed?


No they weren't but we still installed a ghost bike because they were a victim of traffic violence. Also, I didn't leave them out because they were the closest to a "white cyclist" being killed and if i did youd problem bring them up as some "gotcha".

Anyway, the best you can do is tell me to go to bed? How about just admit that you are wrong about your prejudices? Asking too much, I suppose.

They were shot by a gun. That’s called actual violence.


Because of road rage. Which is traffic violence.

It was a robbery. I am not sure if you are intentionally lying in a blinkered attempt to prove something or just stupid. Either way it’s pretty sad.


A robbery when all of their items and their bike were left with them?
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