I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. Homework is educationally useless. Reading, studying and working on essays and projects is plenty.

Busywork is not education.


Math and foreign language homework are not useless at all. Neither are science labs / lab reports as homework. Good luck getting a kid into a STEM field without doing homework.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Focusing on sports instead of homework is not a good long term bet.
Specifically for math, American students are falling way behind. Our students are struggling because THEY DON'T DO ENOUGH MATH HOMEWORK. Sorry, but the average learner doesn't learn math without practicing math problems over and over.
And the top 20-40 income earning jobs in America are all math based.
I have 4 kids and the only ones getting enough math homework are in the highest level math classes. Schools are letting average learners slide by without really learning algebra, geometry and pre-calc.

For most kids that 3 hours/day spent in sports ain't gonna pay the bills for the rest of their life. Hard academic skills will.

https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wireStory/college-students-struggling-basic-math-professors-blame-pandemic-102823782

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/work/america-desperately-needs-people-who-are-good-at-math/articleshow/103980837.cms?from=mdr


This. If you’re putting all your energy into competing for sports scholarships you are already behind the 8 ball.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. Homework is educationally useless. Reading, studying and working on essays and projects is plenty.

Busywork is not education.


Math and foreign language homework are not useless at all. Neither are science labs / lab reports as homework. Good luck getting a kid into a STEM field without doing homework.


I have a PhD in STEM and very rarely had homework in high school. I also never took AP classes.
I did have a lot of work outside of class time at university but I also was only in class for 4-6 hours a day. My kid is at high school from 8:30-4:45.
I have 30 peer reviewed publications so excessive homework in high school is not required for a STEM career. My co-workers probably have very similar stories.

For most STEM careers, where you go to high school and undergrad doesn't really matter. Where you go to grad school and the skills that you focus on there are FAR more important. One of my most successful employees went to community college before heading to a state school to finish off her BS and MS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. Homework is educationally useless. Reading, studying and working on essays and projects is plenty.

Busywork is not education.


Math and foreign language homework are not useless at all. Neither are science labs / lab reports as homework. Good luck getting a kid into a STEM field without doing homework.


I have a PhD in STEM and very rarely had homework in high school. I also never took AP classes.
I did have a lot of work outside of class time at university but I also was only in class for 4-6 hours a day. My kid is at high school from 8:30-4:45.
I have 30 peer reviewed publications so excessive homework in high school is not required for a STEM career. My co-workers probably have very similar stories.

For most STEM careers, where you go to high school and undergrad doesn't really matter. Where you go to grad school and the skills that you focus on there are FAR more important. One of my most successful employees went to community college before heading to a state school to finish off her BS and MS.


I'm also a PhD in STEM and recognize that education has changed since we were there. The cohort had gotten more competitive in areas that don't actually help a STEM career - like really did I need the AP Psyc or History class? No, I didn't for my career but now they are necessary for competitive colleges. My kids don't actually do much homework because I send them to selective private school that recognizes extra is not always better. The elementary kid has 10 min a day and the MS kid has about 4 hrs a week total, including projects on weekends. Because publics are catering to a larger band of abilities a lot of work gets sent home to learn. I've seen many kids come to private from public for this reason. Work is taught at school and a few things are sent home to practice or study. The kids at the school achieve top marks in standardized tests (ACT/SAT/AP) and still have time for extracurriculars. Too much homework comes at the expense of other things need need to learn, like being a productive member of their community and family, sports, art, music, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. Homework is educationally useless. Reading, studying and working on essays and projects is plenty.

Busywork is not education.


Math and foreign language homework are not useless at all. Neither are science labs / lab reports as homework. Good luck getting a kid into a STEM field without doing homework.


I have a PhD in STEM and very rarely had homework in high school. I also never took AP classes.
I did have a lot of work outside of class time at university but I also was only in class for 4-6 hours a day. My kid is at high school from 8:30-4:45.
I have 30 peer reviewed publications so excessive homework in high school is not required for a STEM career. My co-workers probably have very similar stories.

For most STEM careers, where you go to high school and undergrad doesn't really matter. Where you go to grad school and the skills that you focus on there are FAR more important. One of my most successful employees went to community college before heading to a state school to finish off her BS and MS.


I'm also a PhD in STEM and recognize that education has changed since we were there. The cohort had gotten more competitive in areas that don't actually help a STEM career - like really did I need the AP Psyc or History class? No, I didn't for my career but now they are necessary for competitive colleges. My kids don't actually do much homework because I send them to selective private school that recognizes extra is not always better. The elementary kid has 10 min a day and the MS kid has about 4 hrs a week total, including projects on weekends. Because publics are catering to a larger band of abilities a lot of work gets sent home to learn. I've seen many kids come to private from public for this reason. Work is taught at school and a few things are sent home to practice or study. The kids at the school achieve top marks in standardized tests (ACT/SAT/AP) and still have time for extracurriculars. Too much homework comes at the expense of other things need need to learn, like being a productive member of their community and family, sports, art, music, etc.


Usually private schools give more homework than public FYI
Anonymous
Anyone have any HS suggestions of schools where you can find a very light homework load? Are they unicorns in this area?
Anonymous
It shocking how angry this thread makes people. The amount of hate because someone has a different view on the amount of work they want their kid to have.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It shocking how angry this thread makes people. The amount of hate because someone has a different view on the amount of work they want their kid to have.


I didn’t see any hate
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone have any HS suggestions of schools where you can find a very light homework load? Are they unicorns in this area?


You can find this at most public schools. Your child just has to choose her classes carefully.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. Homework is educationally useless. Reading, studying and working on essays and projects is plenty.

Busywork is not education.


This, this, this, this, THIS!


What an insipid response. Sounds like a lazy teacher “this, this, this, this, THIS!”-ed by a low information parent.
Anonymous
College professor here. IMO no student (at any level) should be required to work more hours a week than what is normal for a full time job. Why should children and teenagers work harder than adults? Around 40 hours/week is plenty of time for learning anything. More than that is an unrealistic expectation that leads to frustration for those who can’t meet it, and burnout for those who can.
Anonymous
I want my child to spend no more than 30 mins a day on homework. He should be spending on other activities such as sports, music, developing social skills, etc... After all, EQ is twenty times more important than IQ, just saying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone have any HS suggestions of schools where you can find a very light homework load? Are they unicorns in this area?


Any title 1 school. It’s “not fair” to give poor kids HW if they may not have time to do it, a place to do it, or help from parents. So all work is done at school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It shocking how angry this thread makes people. The amount of hate because someone has a different view on the amount of work they want their kid to have.


I didn’t see any hate


No, there was no “hate.” Just laughing at an entitled parent who feels the need to make such grand, sweeping proclamations. Don’t want to do the work? Then homeschool. Simple.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I want my child to spend no more than 30 mins a day on homework. He should be spending on other activities such as sports, music, developing social skills, etc... After all, EQ is twenty times more important than IQ, just saying.


Are you in middle school?
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