Bringing puppy to Christmas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here - yes I spoke to her about the safety. We didn’t realize what the breed was or how old it was initially. When we found it would be a tiny dachshund, I reminded her that there will be kids as young as 1 here…. I told her it’s going to be chaotic with all the kids running around as is, so I wouldn’t suggest letting it roam around. Outside and the basement where they will be is where the kids run around and play. I offered them an upstairs guest room, but they like the privacy of the basement despite it being the main play area for the kids. We will definitely contain our pets for their safety if things get crazy. I think she has romanticized everything and is treating her dog like it’s a baby. She wants it sleeping in our guest bed to help them bond 😬.

You really are letting MIL rule the roost. Tell her she's in the upstairs bedroom on this visit, period. She can enjoy the privacy of the basement on another visit, not this one.

She clearly has totally forgotten how young children (as young as ONE!?) are going to get on Christmas and around a puppy. It's on your DH and you to remember FOR her.

Why are you and your husband twisting yourselves into pretzels over this? Is he a son who just can't say no to her about any aspect of this or anything else?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, the puppy isn’t even born yet?

It’s a bad idea to take a puppy out where other dogs hang out before it gets vaccinated.

There is that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here - yes I spoke to her about the safety. We didn’t realize what the breed was or how old it was initially. When we found it would be a tiny dachshund... She wants it sleeping in our guest bed to help them bond 😬.

I've slept in a bed with rolly polly Lab puppies but unlike a dachshund they were no more likely to pee or poop in the bed than any of us. I posted earlier that ths MIL is setting OP household up for 10+ years of pee and poo in OP house. And maybe the MIL daughter, the SIL, will show up and there could be 4-5 weiner dogs going at random throughout the home.

Obviously OP has kids and the GSD is fine with the children, guests, etc. We have a relative who had an erratic dog - 1 of that caused so much work, hassle, etc. Just glad it wasn't owned by my adult DC's.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:19:20 is our resident nasty entitled granny. She posts on any thread that anything a MIL wants a MIL gets no matter how foolish, irresponsible, outrageous or ridiculous. It’s boomer time and boomers get whatever they want in her world. What a wonderful world when everyone sucks up to bad boomers.

Nope. Wrong person.

My opinion has nothing to do with mothers-in-law. It's about reciprocation.

I'd be pretty irritated if all this time I trusted someone to bring their dog to my house only to be told "oh well no, I certainly don't trust YOU to bring your dog into MY precious house. "

DP. The MIL isn't bringing a dog. MIL wants to bring a puppy. Why do you not get that distinction? Puppy = more excitable, less trained/untrained, more likely to get into everything, more attractive as an attention magnet for the MANY kids present. If you're such an animal lover, you should find this idea nuts--for the poor puppy.

I have a puppy that has none of what you describe, A. B., there are a dozen kids in the house and it's weird to draw the line at the puppy. OP is just flexing.

I agree with the above, if OP is not going to reciprocate, her dog would not longer be welcome at my house. YOu can board him. MIL's compromises are reasonable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep bringing your dog, you need to let her bring hers. We had the opposite issue. I DON’T want my sisters German Shephard at our house so I stopped bringing my small non shedding dog to hers, just to not be a hypocrite.

Oh please, she is not being a hypocrite. She let her MIL bring prior dogs, but the circumstance and this being a puppy changes things. Adults learn how to deal with this and understand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:19:20 is our resident nasty entitled granny. She posts on any thread that anything a MIL wants a MIL gets no matter how foolish, irresponsible, outrageous or ridiculous. It’s boomer time and boomers get whatever they want in her world. What a wonderful world when everyone sucks up to bad boomers.

Nope. Wrong person.

My opinion has nothing to do with mothers-in-law. It's about reciprocation.

I'd be pretty irritated if all this time I trusted someone to bring their dog to my house only to be told "oh well no, I certainly don't trust YOU to bring your dog into MY precious house. "

DP. The MIL isn't bringing a dog. MIL wants to bring a puppy. Why do you not get that distinction? Puppy = more excitable, less trained/untrained, more likely to get into everything, more attractive as an attention magnet for the MANY kids present. If you're such an animal lover, you should find this idea nuts--for the poor puppy.

I have a puppy that has none of what you describe, A. B., there are a dozen kids in the house and it's weird to draw the line at the puppy. OP is just flexing.

I agree with the above, if OP is not going to reciprocate, her dog would not longer be welcome at my house. YOu can board him. MIL's compromises are reasonable.

A. If you equate human children with puppies you have big issues
B. OP has reciprocated, just not this time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op here - it’s 13 kids actually. So yes - I told her this is too much. Either crate her puppy while in the house or don’t bring it. She wants to put it into a carrier and wear her (I said that’s fine), but no free running around my house. She is bringing a playpen for it too and wants it set up on the main floor since there a hallway with wood floor. With pads down for when it goes. I’m not a fan of this either, but maybe I’m being difficult here. I also feel like our shepherd is going to go nuts trying to get into the soft, collapsible sided pen….

Yes, you're being difficult. This is an excellent compromise.

And if you're going to say no, which is your right, you had best be prepared to be told you can't bring your dog next time. She does you a solid on saving boarding fees (not to mention potential dog viruses) by letting you bring your BIG dog to her home.

+1 The safest place for the puppy would be your MIL’s compromise suggestion - main floor, large puppy playpen, using pads down. Amazon has a ton of waterproof puppy pads that you can lay down that will protect you floor and can be laundered. This way the puppy is safely supervised and isolated.

No. Put it in a large breed crate with a crate pan. Old newspaper under old clothes. Throw away accidents and take it out in harness and leash at least every 2 hours. Why get a hard to housetrain breed in the habit of eliminating in the house. MIL's daughter has daschunds that eliminate all over in MIL house. So OP needs to set a precedent on this now or she could get 10+ years of it. And afficiondos of that breed often get 2-3 of them.

No. It/s inhumane to crate a puppy that long (total hours in the day) and it would backfire on the family because timing matters. The time to socialize a puppy is while he is young especially when in fear periods. By allowing him to be contained in the play pen, he is getting socialization, being exposed to noise and people, while being safe - his accidents are contained on the pads if he has any, and he can’t wander the house or eat stray toys, and the other animals can’t access him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op here - it’s 13 kids actually. So yes - I told her this is too much. Either crate her puppy while in the house or don’t bring it. She wants to put it into a carrier and wear her (I said that’s fine), but no free running around my house. She is bringing a playpen for it too and wants it set up on the main floor since there a hallway with wood floor. With pads down for when it goes. I’m not a fan of this either, but maybe I’m being difficult here. I also feel like our shepherd is going to go nuts trying to get into the soft, collapsible sided pen….

Yes, you're being difficult. This is an excellent compromise.

And if you're going to say no, which is your right, you had best be prepared to be told you can't bring your dog next time. She does you a solid on saving boarding fees (not to mention potential dog viruses) by letting you bring your BIG dog to her home.

+1 The safest place for the puppy would be your MIL’s compromise suggestion - main floor, large puppy playpen, using pads down. Amazon has a ton of waterproof puppy pads that you can lay down that will protect you floor and can be laundered. This way the puppy is safely supervised and isolated.

This actually sounds like OP’s already agreed to this and has a large pen so that’s good.

I would hold the line on the sleeping in the bed - too much risk of a mess in your sheets - and would encourage routine naps in a crate since puppies nip when overtired and overstimulated.

No to roaming free throughout the house.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op here - it’s 13 kids actually. So yes - I told her this is too much. Either crate her puppy while in the house or don’t bring it. She wants to put it into a carrier and wear her (I said that’s fine), but no free running around my house. She is bringing a playpen for it too and wants it set up on the main floor since there a hallway with wood floor. With pads down for when it goes. I’m not a fan of this either, but maybe I’m being difficult here. I also feel like our shepherd is going to go nuts trying to get into the soft, collapsible sided pen….

Yes, you're being difficult. This is an excellent compromise.

And if you're going to say no, which is your right, you had best be prepared to be told you can't bring your dog next time. She does you a solid on saving boarding fees (not to mention potential dog viruses) by letting you bring your BIG dog to her home.

+1 The safest place for the puppy would be your MIL’s compromise suggestion - main floor, large puppy playpen, using pads down. Amazon has a ton of waterproof puppy pads that you can lay down that will protect you floor and can be laundered. This way the puppy is safely supervised and isolated.

No. Put it in a large breed crate with a crate pan. Old newspaper under old clothes. Throw away accidents and take it out in harness and leash at least every 2 hours. Why get a hard to housetrain breed in the habit of eliminating in the house. MIL's daughter has daschunds that eliminate all over in MIL house. So OP needs to set a precedent on this now or she could get 10+ years of it. And afficiondos of that breed often get 2-3 of them.

No. It/s inhumane to crate a puppy that long (total hours in the day) and it would backfire on the family because timing matters. The time to socialize a puppy is while he is young especially when in fear periods. By allowing him to be contained in the play pen, he is getting socialization, being exposed to noise and people, while being safe - his accidents are contained on the pads if he has any, and he can’t wander the house or eat stray toys, and the other animals can’t access him.

So in a post I also wrote use a play pen on the tile floor and harness and leash. Whatever. The fact is the OP and anyone else lie myself dealing with relatives and pets can be stuck. Some people, whether it's their first dog, all dogs, or a specific dog expect or demand care of or access for a dog that can be different from the usual and customary. Doesn't matter what household the dog is in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:19:20 is our resident nasty entitled granny. She posts on any thread that anything a MIL wants a MIL gets no matter how foolish, irresponsible, outrageous or ridiculous. It’s boomer time and boomers get whatever they want in her world. What a wonderful world when everyone sucks up to bad boomers.

Nope. Wrong person.

My opinion has nothing to do with mothers-in-law. It's about reciprocation.

I'd be pretty irritated if all this time I trusted someone to bring their dog to my house only to be told "oh well no, I certainly don't trust YOU to bring your dog into MY precious house. "

DP. The MIL isn't bringing a dog. MIL wants to bring a puppy. Why do you not get that distinction? Puppy = more excitable, less trained/untrained, more likely to get into everything, more attractive as an attention magnet for the MANY kids present. If you're such an animal lover, you should find this idea nuts--for the poor puppy.

I have a puppy that has none of what you describe, A. B., there are a dozen kids in the house and it's weird to draw the line at the puppy. OP is just flexing.

I agree with the above, if OP is not going to reciprocate, her dog would not longer be welcome at my house. YOu can board him. MIL's compromises are reasonable.

A. If you equate human children with puppies you have big issues
B. OP has reciprocated, just not this time.

I didn't "equate human children with puppies." LOL. Are you that dumb? I'm saying the mess/noise . . . all of the things OP s worried about with a puppy, are already there 10-fold with that many kids. She's making the stand with a puppy simply because she can.

And going forward, she should not expect to bring her dog to MIL's. She wouldn't be bringing it to mine, I can tell you that. You reciprocate both ways, or not at all. A large GSD, and i love large dogs, are challenging in the home, esp. if it's not your own. OP acts like she bring a toy poodle or something. Her MIL does her a BIG favor allowing that dog. And this is how she reciprocates? Um, no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:19:20 is our resident nasty entitled granny. She posts on any thread that anything a MIL wants a MIL gets no matter how foolish, irresponsible, outrageous or ridiculous. It’s boomer time and boomers get whatever they want in her world. What a wonderful world when everyone sucks up to bad boomers.

Nope. Wrong person.

My opinion has nothing to do with mothers-in-law. It's about reciprocation.

I'd be pretty irritated if all this time I trusted someone to bring their dog to my house only to be told "oh well no, I certainly don't trust YOU to bring your dog into MY precious house. "

DP. The MIL isn't bringing a dog. MIL wants to bring a puppy. Why do you not get that distinction? Puppy = more excitable, less trained/untrained, more likely to get into everything, more attractive as an attention magnet for the MANY kids present. If you're such an animal lover, you should find this idea nuts--for the poor puppy.

I have a puppy that has none of what you describe, A. B., there are a dozen kids in the house and it's weird to draw the line at the puppy. OP is just flexing.

I agree with the above, if OP is not going to reciprocate, her dog would not longer be welcome at my house. YOu can board him. MIL's compromises are reasonable.

A. If you equate human children with puppies you have big issues
B. OP has reciprocated, just not this time.

I didn't "equate human children with puppies." LOL. Are you that dumb? I'm saying the mess/noise . . . all of the things OP s worried about with a puppy, are already there 10-fold with that many kids. She's making the stand with a puppy simply because she can.

And going forward, she should not expect to bring her dog to MIL's. She wouldn't be bringing it to mine, I can tell you that. You reciprocate both ways, or not at all. A large GSD, and i love large dogs, are challenging in the home, esp. if it's not your own. OP acts like she bring a toy poodle or something. Her MIL does her a BIG favor allowing that dog. And this is how she reciprocates? Um, no.

I'm not trying to be dumb here and I admit I didn't read all the replies, but I would be terrified that a 6 month old mini Doxie would get badly injured in all that chaos. I wouldn't be at all worried about it destroying my house. It'll be smaller than a cat, even a small one, children are careless and adults are distracted. The OP's adult shepherd is large enough and old enough that it can withstand some rough play and since it is in its own home probably has areas to escape to when it needs a break. The puppy should be confined to MIL's room for its own safety. Seriously, how is this even a question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hypocrite. You bring your dog there, but they cannot bring a puppy?

+100
A german shepherd is a BIG dog and sheds a ton. So, your MIL put up with that for what sounds like numerous visits. She probably has your dog's shedded fur all over her house yet continued to let you bring the dog. OP, you are a hypocrite..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hypocrite. You bring your dog there, but they cannot bring a puppy?

+100
A german shepherd is a BIG dog and sheds a ton. So, your MIL put up with that for what sounds like numerous visits. She probably has your dog's shedded fur all over her house yet continued to let you bring the dog. OP, you are a hypocrite..

No OP is not a hypocrite. Your attitude of you OWE me and that gets interpreted as anything I want is ridiculous. If her MIL doesn’t like the shedding then she shouldn’t have invited the dog. The OP never pitched a fit because anyone didn’t invite their dog.

The problem here is that MIL is a rude, pushy, stupid, gross dip. She’s rude for throwing a fit that her puppy can’t roam around the house. She’s stupid because she doesn’t understand how dangerous this is to the puppy’s physical safety and behavioral development. She’s gross because she thinks it’s fine for a dog to pee and poop on carpet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:19:20 is our resident nasty entitled granny. She posts on any thread that anything a MIL wants a MIL gets no matter how foolish, irresponsible, outrageous or ridiculous. It’s boomer time and boomers get whatever they want in her world. What a wonderful world when everyone sucks up to bad boomers.

Nope. Wrong person.

My opinion has nothing to do with mothers-in-law. It's about reciprocation.

I'd be pretty irritated if all this time I trusted someone to bring their dog to my house only to be told "oh well no, I certainly don't trust YOU to bring your dog into MY precious house. "

DP. The MIL isn't bringing a dog. MIL wants to bring a puppy. Why do you not get that distinction? Puppy = more excitable, less trained/untrained, more likely to get into everything, more attractive as an attention magnet for the MANY kids present. If you're such an animal lover, you should find this idea nuts--for the poor puppy.

I have a puppy that has none of what you describe, A. B., there are a dozen kids in the house and it's weird to draw the line at the puppy. OP is just flexing.

I agree with the above, if OP is not going to reciprocate, her dog would not longer be welcome at my house. YOu can board him. MIL's compromises are reasonable.

A. If you equate human children with puppies you have big issues
B. OP has reciprocated, just not this time.

I didn't "equate human children with puppies." LOL. Are you that dumb? I'm saying the mess/noise . . . all of the things OP s worried about with a puppy, are already there 10-fold with that many kids. She's making the stand with a puppy simply because she can.

And going forward, she should not expect to bring her dog to MIL's. She wouldn't be bringing it to mine, I can tell you that. You reciprocate both ways, or not at all. A large GSD, and i love large dogs, are challenging in the home, esp. if it's not your own. OP acts like she bring a toy poodle or something. Her MIL does her a BIG favor allowing that dog. And this is how she reciprocates? Um, no.

Grow up.
Seriously, grow up. You sound like a child. The circumstance is different, you have to be flexible. It makes no sense in this circumstance. If you won’t let me, I won’t let you pettiness is just petty!

[Anonymous]

I don’t care how many times the MIL has allowed OP to bring her German Shepherd. The MIL has openly admitted she plans to let the puppy have accidents on OP’s carpets and will bring carpet cleaner. That is not acceptable at all. How are people thinking that is reasonable in any way?