I have adult kids and agree with this. Summer in Europe is awful. Crowds, heat, humidity. Fall is much more enjoyable. |
Why do people hate Costa Rica? Haven't been since 2008 but loved it. |
Twenty-five years I lived in Europe for 3 years and traveled extensively. We traveled with family for years since. Our recent trips ~5-8 years have been very different. Just back from a trip this year and the difference between as shocking - trash, lack of maintenance upkeep, old construction, poor transit.
All that said, Iceland has been the only place I would say I was underwhelmed. Though I have had many people tell me 1) we went at the wrong time, and 2) tried to see two much in our 4 days. It was interesting but I’ll take a return trip to either Switzerland, Norway or Alaska first. |
Should say - 25 years ago, I lived in Europe for three years |
Stop giving good tips, PP. Bali is awful. No DCUM people should ever go there. Go to your house at the Delaware beach instead. Stay away from Bali. |
+1, thank you. Iceland was not for me although some natural things are impressive (eg blue lagoon, golden triangle) but I just found the whole place kind of depressing, especially reykjavik |
Obviously the Amalfi coast!!!! The beaches are a joke unless you like walking on a few feet of "stretch" with rocks under your feet. Almost every American beach blows theirs away. Sorry, its true! |
Yes, and I hate other tourists. |
Undercurrents. |
That's why we do Northern Europe in summer -- Scandinavia, Scotland. Copenhagen is a great city for little kids. Swedish countryside and the Norwegian fjords are beautiful and comfortable in summer with kids who like being outdoors. Scotland is a wonderful mix of a terrific city, gorgeous countryside, and some fun/interesting history -- great for tweens and young teens, especially if they are outdoorsy. Though I personally also think the rest of Europe can be great with kids. Mine love pastries, riding trains, river tours, spectacular architecture. I'm a museum person but am realistic about what that's like for kids, so we try to arrange that so it's not the focus for them but I still get some time there. Most European capitals have pretty good infrastructure for families, in terms of playgrounds, lots of discounted tickets and free access to things for kids even if you don't live there, and plenty of places to eat that are welcoming of families (pub culture in the UK can be very kid friendly, for instance). It's also nice that Europe is not a super long flight from the East Coast, and there are lots of direct flights. |
Paris. Filthy city, frequent public urination and even defecation, and some of the major tourist attractions like the Louvre are overrated. I had a great time and would certainly go again but I’ve enjoyed other European cities more. |
+10000 We didn’t ho near the beach resorts but LOVED ubud. |
Agree 100% on all counts. |
The thread is a joke. The idea that people living in DC of all places are qualified to pass judgment on their superiors around the globe is hilarious. |
Hmm...mmm.... I spent two weeks on Bali and it was more disappointing than not. Good food, yes, some nice scenery, yes. But crowded, traffic jams everywhere, Ubud was overbuilt and definitely more touristy than local. The water at the beaches was lovely even if most beaches were rocky. But on the whole I found Bali overrun with Australian rednecks and tattooed Europeans looking for cheap parties. The advantage of Bali is that compared to the rest of Indonesia, the infrastructure is much better. After having travelled in more pastoral parts of Indonesia you can appreciate the upsides to Bali, but that was having good coffee, Starbucks, and diet coke and more reliable food. Not "local culture" which seemed to be gimmicky for the tourists. By the way, Bali is a predominately Hindu island, not Buddhist and especially not animist. Maybe that was what some local person's spiel in order to get tourist dollars out of your misplaced sympathies. |