APS looking to make sex Ed coed

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Anonymous wrote:If you want your child educated to your faith's beliefs, send them to parochial school. If you want your child educated in single sex classrooms, enroll them in a single sex private school. Otherwise, children should all receive the same instruction in a coeducational setting.


Really sick of this response when it comes to anything public school related. Public schools are for everyone. Not every family can afford private school. If public schools keep pushing these values more people will homeschool and the people who want to leave the system and can’t afford it will start pushing for vouchers which will weaken the public school system in general.

Now regarding coed vs mixed classes, not sure what the big deal is here. Arlington is proposing a change in a policy that has been working and has provided no rationale whatsoever for the change. We are not asking for a change. We are asking for APS to keep things the way they are.


It works both ways--if you start pushing your religious or otherwise "modest" values in public schools, a lot of people will start pulling their kids out and sending them to secular privates. There's supposed to be separation of church and state here. Sex education is scientific and public health-based. Or do you go to your pastor to get a pelvic exam?


I think you’re very naive if you think anyone who may be uncomfortable with this is a churchgoing Christian (ie has a pastor).

You’re right. Many Muslims will be as well


This is not a religious thing. This is about girls and boys being comfortable to ask questions. Many non religious people would like the policy to remain as is as well.
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Anonymous wrote:If you want your child educated to your faith's beliefs, send them to parochial school. If you want your child educated in single sex classrooms, enroll them in a single sex private school. Otherwise, children should all receive the same instruction in a coeducational setting.


Really sick of this response when it comes to anything public school related. Public schools are for everyone. Not every family can afford private school. If public schools keep pushing these values more people will homeschool and the people who want to leave the system and can’t afford it will start pushing for vouchers which will weaken the public school system in general.

Now regarding coed vs mixed classes, not sure what the big deal is here. Arlington is proposing a change in a policy that has been working and has provided no rationale whatsoever for the change. We are not asking for a change. We are asking for APS to keep things the way they are.


It works both ways--if you start pushing your religious or otherwise "modest" values in public schools, a lot of people will start pulling their kids out and sending them to secular privates. There's supposed to be separation of church and state here. Sex education is scientific and public health-based. Or do you go to your pastor to get a pelvic exam?


I think you’re very naive if you think anyone who may be uncomfortable with this is a churchgoing Christian (ie has a pastor).

You’re right. Many Muslims will be as well


I'm aware. I'm not going to start listing every religion. Frankly it doesn't matter a hoot what religion it is--keep your beliefs out of my kids' education.


You chose to highlight Christians in your first post for a reason. Own it.
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Anonymous wrote:If you want your child educated to your faith's beliefs, send them to parochial school. If you want your child educated in single sex classrooms, enroll them in a single sex private school. Otherwise, children should all receive the same instruction in a coeducational setting.


Really sick of this response when it comes to anything public school related. Public schools are for everyone. Not every family can afford private school. If public schools keep pushing these values more people will homeschool and the people who want to leave the system and can’t afford it will start pushing for vouchers which will weaken the public school system in general.

Now regarding coed vs mixed classes, not sure what the big deal is here. Arlington is proposing a change in a policy that has been working and has provided no rationale whatsoever for the change. We are not asking for a change. We are asking for APS to keep things the way they are.


It works both ways--if you start pushing your religious or otherwise "modest" values in public schools, a lot of people will start pulling their kids out and sending them to secular privates. There's supposed to be separation of church and state here. Sex education is scientific and public health-based. Or do you go to your pastor to get a pelvic exam?


What is the scientific and public health basis of all sex ed classes being coed? From a public health perspective, the less families that opt out the better. From a public health perspective, the more comfortable kids are to ask questions the better. There is absolutely no public health basis to making all of sex ed coed.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want your child educated to your faith's beliefs, send them to parochial school. If you want your child educated in single sex classrooms, enroll them in a single sex private school. Otherwise, children should all receive the same instruction in a coeducational setting.


Really sick of this response when it comes to anything public school related. Public schools are for everyone. Not every family can afford private school. If public schools keep pushing these values more people will homeschool and the people who want to leave the system and can’t afford it will start pushing for vouchers which will weaken the public school system in general.

Now regarding coed vs mixed classes, not sure what the big deal is here. Arlington is proposing a change in a policy that has been working and has provided no rationale whatsoever for the change. We are not asking for a change. We are asking for APS to keep things the way they are.


It works both ways--if you start pushing your religious or otherwise "modest" values in public schools, a lot of people will start pulling their kids out and sending them to secular privates. There's supposed to be separation of church and state here. Sex education is scientific and public health-based. Or do you go to your pastor to get a pelvic exam?


What is the scientific and public health basis of all sex ed classes being coed? From a public health perspective, the less families that opt out the better. From a public health perspective, the more comfortable kids are to ask questions the better. There is absolutely no public health basis to making all of sex ed coed.


IDK but according to PP our capacity crisis will be solved if we have separate sex ed classes so I say we do it.
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Anonymous wrote:If you want your child educated to your faith's beliefs, send them to parochial school. If you want your child educated in single sex classrooms, enroll them in a single sex private school. Otherwise, children should all receive the same instruction in a coeducational setting.


Really sick of this response when it comes to anything public school related. Public schools are for everyone. Not every family can afford private school. If public schools keep pushing these values more people will homeschool and the people who want to leave the system and can’t afford it will start pushing for vouchers which will weaken the public school system in general.

Now regarding coed vs mixed classes, not sure what the big deal is here. Arlington is proposing a change in a policy that has been working and has provided no rationale whatsoever for the change. We are not asking for a change. We are asking for APS to keep things the way they are.


It works both ways--if you start pushing your religious or otherwise "modest" values in public schools, a lot of people will start pulling their kids out and sending them to secular privates. There's supposed to be separation of church and state here. Sex education is scientific and public health-based. Or do you go to your pastor to get a pelvic exam?


I think you’re very naive if you think anyone who may be uncomfortable with this is a churchgoing Christian (ie has a pastor).

You’re right. Many Muslims will be as well


This is not a religious thing. This is about girls and boys being comfortable to ask questions. Many non religious people would like the policy to remain as is as well.

There is always an option for kids to ask questions anonymously. In fact it might be the only way
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Anonymous wrote:If you want your child educated to your faith's beliefs, send them to parochial school. If you want your child educated in single sex classrooms, enroll them in a single sex private school. Otherwise, children should all receive the same instruction in a coeducational setting.


Really sick of this response when it comes to anything public school related. Public schools are for everyone. Not every family can afford private school. If public schools keep pushing these values more people will homeschool and the people who want to leave the system and can’t afford it will start pushing for vouchers which will weaken the public school system in general.

Now regarding coed vs mixed classes, not sure what the big deal is here. Arlington is proposing a change in a policy that has been working and has provided no rationale whatsoever for the change. We are not asking for a change. We are asking for APS to keep things the way they are.


It works both ways--if you start pushing your religious or otherwise "modest" values in public schools, a lot of people will start pulling their kids out and sending them to secular privates. There's supposed to be separation of church and state here. Sex education is scientific and public health-based. Or do you go to your pastor to get a pelvic exam?


I think you’re very naive if you think anyone who may be uncomfortable with this is a churchgoing Christian (ie has a pastor).

You’re right. Many Muslims will be as well


This is not a religious thing. This is about girls and boys being comfortable to ask questions. Many non religious people would like the policy to remain as is as well.

There is always an option for kids to ask questions anonymously. In fact it might be the only way


Why should it be anonymous though? Sure they can be given the option but why not make things as comfortable as possible. These are difficult issues. Just keep things the way they are. I will say that I know that during virtual learning lots of the lessons were coed. Obviously virtual learning was a special circumstance and lessons were probably not effective for various obvious reasons that have nothing to do with whether they are coed or not.
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Anonymous wrote:If you want your child educated to your faith's beliefs, send them to parochial school. If you want your child educated in single sex classrooms, enroll them in a single sex private school. Otherwise, children should all receive the same instruction in a coeducational setting.


Really sick of this response when it comes to anything public school related. Public schools are for everyone. Not every family can afford private school. If public schools keep pushing these values more people will homeschool and the people who want to leave the system and can’t afford it will start pushing for vouchers which will weaken the public school system in general.

Now regarding coed vs mixed classes, not sure what the big deal is here. Arlington is proposing a change in a policy that has been working and has provided no rationale whatsoever for the change. We are not asking for a change. We are asking for APS to keep things the way they are.


It works both ways--if you start pushing your religious or otherwise "modest" values in public schools, a lot of people will start pulling their kids out and sending them to secular privates. There's supposed to be separation of church and state here. Sex education is scientific and public health-based. Or do you go to your pastor to get a pelvic exam?


I think you’re very naive if you think anyone who may be uncomfortable with this is a churchgoing Christian (ie has a pastor).

You’re right. Many Muslims will be as well


This is not a religious thing. This is about girls and boys being comfortable to ask questions. Many non religious people would like the policy to remain as is as well.

There is always an option for kids to ask questions anonymously. In fact it might be the only way


+1

Some kids will be embarrassed even with kids of the same gender.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want your child educated to your faith's beliefs, send them to parochial school. If you want your child educated in single sex classrooms, enroll them in a single sex private school. Otherwise, children should all receive the same instruction in a coeducational setting.


Really sick of this response when it comes to anything public school related. Public schools are for everyone. Not every family can afford private school. If public schools keep pushing these values more people will homeschool and the people who want to leave the system and can’t afford it will start pushing for vouchers which will weaken the public school system in general.

Now regarding coed vs mixed classes, not sure what the big deal is here. Arlington is proposing a change in a policy that has been working and has provided no rationale whatsoever for the change. We are not asking for a change. We are asking for APS to keep things the way they are.


It works both ways--if you start pushing your religious or otherwise "modest" values in public schools, a lot of people will start pulling their kids out and sending them to secular privates. There's supposed to be separation of church and state here. Sex education is scientific and public health-based. Or do you go to your pastor to get a pelvic exam?


I think you’re very naive if you think anyone who may be uncomfortable with this is a churchgoing Christian (ie has a pastor).

You’re right. Many Muslims will be as well


I'm aware. I'm not going to start listing every religion. Frankly it doesn't matter a hoot what religion it is--keep your beliefs out of my kids' education.


You chose to highlight Christians in your first post for a reason. Own it.


DP. To be fair, Christian organizations are the ones attacking our schools (and women) left and right. I don’t know if any Muslim orgs working for decades to take over the SCOTUS.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want your child educated to your faith's beliefs, send them to parochial school. If you want your child educated in single sex classrooms, enroll them in a single sex private school. Otherwise, children should all receive the same instruction in a coeducational setting.


Really sick of this response when it comes to anything public school related. Public schools are for everyone. Not every family can afford private school. If public schools keep pushing these values more people will homeschool and the people who want to leave the system and can’t afford it will start pushing for vouchers which will weaken the public school system in general.

Now regarding coed vs mixed classes, not sure what the big deal is here. Arlington is proposing a change in a policy that has been working and has provided no rationale whatsoever for the change. We are not asking for a change. We are asking for APS to keep things the way they are.


It works both ways--if you start pushing your religious or otherwise "modest" values in public schools, a lot of people will start pulling their kids out and sending them to secular privates. There's supposed to be separation of church and state here. Sex education is scientific and public health-based. Or do you go to your pastor to get a pelvic exam?


I think you’re very naive if you think anyone who may be uncomfortable with this is a churchgoing Christian (ie has a pastor).

You’re right. Many Muslims will be as well


I'm aware. I'm not going to start listing every religion. Frankly it doesn't matter a hoot what religion it is--keep your beliefs out of my kids' education.


Can you keep your values out of our children’s education as well then? Stop pushing new stuff. We are asking to keep the policy the way it is. It’s your values being pushed on us.


There is nothing new about co-ed sex ed. It’s been around for decades.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who is uncomfortable with this to the point of opting out isn’t already opting out


I know people who didn’t opt out of sex ed for their older kids that are considering opting out for their younger ones.


In APS? This is very hard to believe.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who is uncomfortable with this to the point of opting out isn’t already opting out


I know people who didn’t opt out of sex ed for their older kids that are considering opting out for their younger ones.


In APS? This is very hard to believe.


Perhaps you don’t interact with many families. There are a lot of immigrant families in Arlington that are more conservative when it comes to these issues.
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Anonymous wrote:If you want your child educated to your faith's beliefs, send them to parochial school. If you want your child educated in single sex classrooms, enroll them in a single sex private school. Otherwise, children should all receive the same instruction in a coeducational setting.



I cannot stress this enough. Lately, public schools are catering more and more to the extremely religious. They all need to develop a backbone and strongly recommend religious schools, and make it clear they will not bend over backwards and change everything for a child who should not be in public education, and I don’t care if it is about a naked David statue, or a full face and head covering for little girls.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who is uncomfortable with this to the point of opting out isn’t already opting out


I know people who didn’t opt out of sex ed for their older kids that are considering opting out for their younger ones.


In APS? This is very hard to believe.


Perhaps you don’t interact with many families. There are a lot of immigrant families in Arlington that are more conservative when it comes to these issues.


I interact with many families which is why I find this very hard to believe. Which school?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ok? It’s 2023. Glad to see VA is finally catching up with the rest of the world.


Are you insane? If girls have questions say about their periods they will not as with the crush sitting next to them! What a stupid and thoughtless comment you made!
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Anonymous wrote:If you want your child educated to your faith's beliefs, send them to parochial school. If you want your child educated in single sex classrooms, enroll them in a single sex private school. Otherwise, children should all receive the same instruction in a coeducational setting.



I cannot stress this enough. Lately, public schools are catering more and more to the extremely religious. They all need to develop a backbone and strongly recommend religious schools, and make it clear they will not bend over backwards and change everything for a child who should not be in public education, and I don’t care if it is about a naked David statue, or a full face and head covering for little girls.


Can we focus on Arlington?the existing policy is for sex segregated. APS wants to change that. Not sure why because they haven’t said. Parents are asking to stick with the current policy.

No one is catering to the “extremely religious” here. In fact, APS is trying to sneak this change through in summer with the barest minimum of public engagement. What do teachers think of this policy? Parents beyond DCUM? Students?
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