APS looking to make sex Ed coed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this change really necessary at this time to align with a state mandated curriculum change? If no, then I think APS should direct energies elsewhere considering they are still facing many students with learning loss.

And this doesn’t seem to be very respectful of the diverse community of APS. Many families hold more conservative views on such topics and APS should be respectful and inclusive of all.

Also didn’t Duran just say they were going to stop implementing new programs and changes and actually let the ones they have been making for years actually take hold?

Groan.

So you don’t care that arlington’s student body is getting more diverse? What should we do? Send them all back to their country?

I think it’s wonderful that APS is getting more diverse. I disagree that being “welcoming” means kowtowing to their religious beliefs and cultural hang ups. In the US, you are entitled to accommodation, that’s it. Not a seamless transition from the pulpit to the public school.

You may have missed it but APS is changing the policy to make it co-ed. It is currently single sex. No one is kowtowing. People are rightly asking "why change it". It seems worth considering the pros and cons of changing it. There will be more opt-outs with this policy change. Is that worth whatever benefit there is? I don't know because they haven't provided a rationale for it.

[Anonymous]

These aren't "secret" topics that shouldn't be discussed openly.

A lot of good points here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/10/19/why-we-shouldnt-be-separating-boys-girls-sex-ed/

"“When we divide young people by gender, the implication there is that we’re somehow giving them different messages,” says Nicole Cushman, the executive director of Answer, a sex education program at Rutgers University. “We kind of reinforce this cultural taboo about the subject, and we reinforce the idea that sex is not something to be discussed in ‘mixed company.’

“There’s definitely consensus in the field that it is a best practice, or that it is preferable, to speak to all genders at the same time.”"

"In the world-famous Dutch model of K-12 comprehensive sexuality education, which teaches egalitarian social norms at every age in one of the most gender-equal societies on the globe, in rare cases of religious objections, girls and boys may be separated for portions of their lessons."

"By teaching students of all genders alongside one another about healthy sexuality and relationships, including consent, we hand them a set of social expectations to hold in common. The more students are aware of what their peers have been taught about how to treat others, the more they can hold one another accountable."

"Clarifying and normalizing the changes of puberty can give girls empathy for a wayward erection and empower boys to compassionately offer a sweatshirt to tie over a period stain."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These aren't "secret" topics that shouldn't be discussed openly.

A lot of good points here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/10/19/why-we-shouldnt-be-separating-boys-girls-sex-ed/

"“When we divide young people by gender, the implication there is that we’re somehow giving them different messages,” says Nicole Cushman, the executive director of Answer, a sex education program at Rutgers University. “We kind of reinforce this cultural taboo about the subject, and we reinforce the idea that sex is not something to be discussed in ‘mixed company.’

“There’s definitely consensus in the field that it is a best practice, or that it is preferable, to speak to all genders at the same time.”"

"In the world-famous Dutch model of K-12 comprehensive sexuality education, which teaches egalitarian social norms at every age in one of the most gender-equal societies on the globe, in rare cases of religious objections, girls and boys may be separated for portions of their lessons."

"By teaching students of all genders alongside one another about healthy sexuality and relationships, including consent, we hand them a set of social expectations to hold in common. The more students are aware of what their peers have been taught about how to treat others, the more they can hold one another accountable."

"Clarifying and normalizing the changes of puberty can give girls empathy for a wayward erection and empower boys to compassionately offer a sweatshirt to tie over a period stain."

+1, very helpful post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These aren't "secret" topics that shouldn't be discussed openly.

A lot of good points here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/10/19/why-we-shouldnt-be-separating-boys-girls-sex-ed/

"“When we divide young people by gender, the implication there is that we’re somehow giving them different messages,” says Nicole Cushman, the executive director of Answer, a sex education program at Rutgers University. “We kind of reinforce this cultural taboo about the subject, and we reinforce the idea that sex is not something to be discussed in ‘mixed company.’

“There’s definitely consensus in the field that it is a best practice, or that it is preferable, to speak to all genders at the same time.”"

"In the world-famous Dutch model of K-12 comprehensive sexuality education, which teaches egalitarian social norms at every age in one of the most gender-equal societies on the globe, in rare cases of religious objections, girls and boys may be separated for portions of their lessons."

"By teaching students of all genders alongside one another about healthy sexuality and relationships, including consent, we hand them a set of social expectations to hold in common. The more students are aware of what their peers have been taught about how to treat others, the more they can hold one another accountable."

"Clarifying and normalizing the changes of puberty can give girls empathy for a wayward erection and empower boys to compassionately offer a sweatshirt to tie over a period stain."

And I can write an article with an expert opinion that says the exact opposite lol. There’s no actual research to back the above claims up. Also the Netherlands is very different than the US when it comes to the make up and size of their population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These aren't "secret" topics that shouldn't be discussed openly.

A lot of good points here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/10/19/why-we-shouldnt-be-separating-boys-girls-sex-ed/

"“When we divide young people by gender, the implication there is that we’re somehow giving them different messages,” says Nicole Cushman, the executive director of Answer, a sex education program at Rutgers University. “We kind of reinforce this cultural taboo about the subject, and we reinforce the idea that sex is not something to be discussed in ‘mixed company.’

“There’s definitely consensus in the field that it is a best practice, or that it is preferable, to speak to all genders at the same time.”"

"In the world-famous Dutch model of K-12 comprehensive sexuality education, which teaches egalitarian social norms at every age in one of the most gender-equal societies on the globe, in rare cases of religious objections, girls and boys may be separated for portions of their lessons."

"By teaching students of all genders alongside one another about healthy sexuality and relationships, including consent, we hand them a set of social expectations to hold in common. The more students are aware of what their peers have been taught about how to treat others, the more they can hold one another accountable."

"Clarifying and normalizing the changes of puberty can give girls empathy for a wayward erection and empower boys to compassionately offer a sweatshirt to tie over a period stain."

And I can write an article with an expert opinion that says the exact opposite lol. There’s no actual research to back the above claims up. Also the Netherlands is very different than the US when it comes to the make up and size of their population.

Go ahead and write that article, or a book to base it on, and we can all read it and form opinions.

Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These aren't "secret" topics that shouldn't be discussed openly.

A lot of good points here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/10/19/why-we-shouldnt-be-separating-boys-girls-sex-ed/

"“When we divide young people by gender, the implication there is that we’re somehow giving them different messages,” says Nicole Cushman, the executive director of Answer, a sex education program at Rutgers University. “We kind of reinforce this cultural taboo about the subject, and we reinforce the idea that sex is not something to be discussed in ‘mixed company.’

“There’s definitely consensus in the field that it is a best practice, or that it is preferable, to speak to all genders at the same time.”"

"In the world-famous Dutch model of K-12 comprehensive sexuality education, which teaches egalitarian social norms at every age in one of the most gender-equal societies on the globe, in rare cases of religious objections, girls and boys may be separated for portions of their lessons."

"By teaching students of all genders alongside one another about healthy sexuality and relationships, including consent, we hand them a set of social expectations to hold in common. The more students are aware of what their peers have been taught about how to treat others, the more they can hold one another accountable."

"Clarifying and normalizing the changes of puberty can give girls empathy for a wayward erection and empower boys to compassionately offer a sweatshirt to tie over a period stain."

And I can write an article with an expert opinion that says the exact opposite lol. There’s no actual research to back the above claims up. Also the Netherlands is very different than the US when it comes to the make up and size of their population.

It rings true for me as a woman who has been in many different gender environments. Including co-ed sex ed.

When I moved to VA I was shocked at how regressive it was socially & politically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These aren't "secret" topics that shouldn't be discussed openly.

A lot of good points here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/10/19/why-we-shouldnt-be-separating-boys-girls-sex-ed/

"“When we divide young people by gender, the implication there is that we’re somehow giving them different messages,” says Nicole Cushman, the executive director of Answer, a sex education program at Rutgers University. “We kind of reinforce this cultural taboo about the subject, and we reinforce the idea that sex is not something to be discussed in ‘mixed company.’

“There’s definitely consensus in the field that it is a best practice, or that it is preferable, to speak to all genders at the same time.”"

"In the world-famous Dutch model of K-12 comprehensive sexuality education, which teaches egalitarian social norms at every age in one of the most gender-equal societies on the globe, in rare cases of religious objections, girls and boys may be separated for portions of their lessons."

"By teaching students of all genders alongside one another about healthy sexuality and relationships, including consent, we hand them a set of social expectations to hold in common. The more students are aware of what their peers have been taught about how to treat others, the more they can hold one another accountable."

"Clarifying and normalizing the changes of puberty can give girls empathy for a wayward erection and empower boys to compassionately offer a sweatshirt to tie over a period stain."

And I can write an article with an expert opinion that says the exact opposite lol. There’s no actual research to back the above claims up. Also the Netherlands is very different than the US when it comes to the make up and size of their population.

Go ahead and write that article, or a book to base it on, and we can all read it and form opinions.

Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I don’t care to. My point was that the article that PP posted says nothing. All it is is some so called expert theorizing based on no evidence whatsoever. It’s funny how things change. Before, the liberal and progressive position was to create safe spaces for women. Now it seems to have shifted. Liberals & progressives want everything to be coed and conservatives want everything segregated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These aren't "secret" topics that shouldn't be discussed openly.

A lot of good points here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/10/19/why-we-shouldnt-be-separating-boys-girls-sex-ed/

"“When we divide young people by gender, the implication there is that we’re somehow giving them different messages,” says Nicole Cushman, the executive director of Answer, a sex education program at Rutgers University. “We kind of reinforce this cultural taboo about the subject, and we reinforce the idea that sex is not something to be discussed in ‘mixed company.’

“There’s definitely consensus in the field that it is a best practice, or that it is preferable, to speak to all genders at the same time.”"

"In the world-famous Dutch model of K-12 comprehensive sexuality education, which teaches egalitarian social norms at every age in one of the most gender-equal societies on the globe, in rare cases of religious objections, girls and boys may be separated for portions of their lessons."

"By teaching students of all genders alongside one another about healthy sexuality and relationships, including consent, we hand them a set of social expectations to hold in common. The more students are aware of what their peers have been taught about how to treat others, the more they can hold one another accountable."

"Clarifying and normalizing the changes of puberty can give girls empathy for a wayward erection and empower boys to compassionately offer a sweatshirt to tie over a period stain."

And I can write an article with an expert opinion that says the exact opposite lol. There’s no actual research to back the above claims up. Also the Netherlands is very different than the US when it comes to the make up and size of their population.

Go ahead and write that article, or a book to base it on, and we can all read it and form opinions.

Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I don’t care to. My point was that the article that PP posted says nothing. All it is is some so called expert theorizing based on no evidence whatsoever. It’s funny how things change. Before, the liberal and progressive position was to create safe spaces for women. Now it seems to have shifted. Liberals & progressives want everything to be coed and conservatives want everything segregated.

I disagree that sex segregated classes are a “safe space”‘for women. They certainly haven’t been advancing the cause of safer interactions with men in real life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These aren't "secret" topics that shouldn't be discussed openly.

A lot of good points here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/10/19/why-we-shouldnt-be-separating-boys-girls-sex-ed/

"“When we divide young people by gender, the implication there is that we’re somehow giving them different messages,” says Nicole Cushman, the executive director of Answer, a sex education program at Rutgers University. “We kind of reinforce this cultural taboo about the subject, and we reinforce the idea that sex is not something to be discussed in ‘mixed company.’

“There’s definitely consensus in the field that it is a best practice, or that it is preferable, to speak to all genders at the same time.”"

"In the world-famous Dutch model of K-12 comprehensive sexuality education, which teaches egalitarian social norms at every age in one of the most gender-equal societies on the globe, in rare cases of religious objections, girls and boys may be separated for portions of their lessons."

"By teaching students of all genders alongside one another about healthy sexuality and relationships, including consent, we hand them a set of social expectations to hold in common. The more students are aware of what their peers have been taught about how to treat others, the more they can hold one another accountable."

"Clarifying and normalizing the changes of puberty can give girls empathy for a wayward erection and empower boys to compassionately offer a sweatshirt to tie over a period stain."

And I can write an article with an expert opinion that says the exact opposite lol. There’s no actual research to back the above claims up. Also the Netherlands is very different than the US when it comes to the make up and size of their population.

Go ahead and write that article, or a book to base it on, and we can all read it and form opinions.

Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I don’t care to. My point was that the article that PP posted says nothing. All it is is some so called expert theorizing based on no evidence whatsoever. It’s funny how things change. Before, the liberal and progressive position was to create safe spaces for women. Now it seems to have shifted. Liberals & progressives want everything to be coed and conservatives want everything segregated.

Huh? I am an old Democrat and I've never heard anyone pushing for gender segregation. Gender equality was DEsegregating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These aren't "secret" topics that shouldn't be discussed openly.

A lot of good points here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/10/19/why-we-shouldnt-be-separating-boys-girls-sex-ed/

"“When we divide young people by gender, the implication there is that we’re somehow giving them different messages,” says Nicole Cushman, the executive director of Answer, a sex education program at Rutgers University. “We kind of reinforce this cultural taboo about the subject, and we reinforce the idea that sex is not something to be discussed in ‘mixed company.’

“There’s definitely consensus in the field that it is a best practice, or that it is preferable, to speak to all genders at the same time.”"

"In the world-famous Dutch model of K-12 comprehensive sexuality education, which teaches egalitarian social norms at every age in one of the most gender-equal societies on the globe, in rare cases of religious objections, girls and boys may be separated for portions of their lessons."

"By teaching students of all genders alongside one another about healthy sexuality and relationships, including consent, we hand them a set of social expectations to hold in common. The more students are aware of what their peers have been taught about how to treat others, the more they can hold one another accountable."

"Clarifying and normalizing the changes of puberty can give girls empathy for a wayward erection and empower boys to compassionately offer a sweatshirt to tie over a period stain."

And I can write an article with an expert opinion that says the exact opposite lol. There’s no actual research to back the above claims up. Also the Netherlands is very different than the US when it comes to the make up and size of their population.

Go ahead and write that article, or a book to base it on, and we can all read it and form opinions.

Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I don’t care to. My point was that the article that PP posted says nothing. All it is is some so called expert theorizing based on no evidence whatsoever. It’s funny how things change. Before, the liberal and progressive position was to create safe spaces for women. Now it seems to have shifted. Liberals & progressives want everything to be coed and conservatives want everything segregated.

Huh? I am an old Democrat and I've never heard anyone pushing for gender segregation. Gender equality was DEsegregating.

That’s how we got women sports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These aren't "secret" topics that shouldn't be discussed openly.

A lot of good points here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/10/19/why-we-shouldnt-be-separating-boys-girls-sex-ed/

"“When we divide young people by gender, the implication there is that we’re somehow giving them different messages,” says Nicole Cushman, the executive director of Answer, a sex education program at Rutgers University. “We kind of reinforce this cultural taboo about the subject, and we reinforce the idea that sex is not something to be discussed in ‘mixed company.’

“There’s definitely consensus in the field that it is a best practice, or that it is preferable, to speak to all genders at the same time.”"

"In the world-famous Dutch model of K-12 comprehensive sexuality education, which teaches egalitarian social norms at every age in one of the most gender-equal societies on the globe, in rare cases of religious objections, girls and boys may be separated for portions of their lessons."

"By teaching students of all genders alongside one another about healthy sexuality and relationships, including consent, we hand them a set of social expectations to hold in common. The more students are aware of what their peers have been taught about how to treat others, the more they can hold one another accountable."

"Clarifying and normalizing the changes of puberty can give girls empathy for a wayward erection and empower boys to compassionately offer a sweatshirt to tie over a period stain."

And I can write an article with an expert opinion that says the exact opposite lol. There’s no actual research to back the above claims up. Also the Netherlands is very different than the US when it comes to the make up and size of their population.

Go ahead and write that article, or a book to base it on, and we can all read it and form opinions.

Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I don’t care to. My point was that the article that PP posted says nothing. All it is is some so called expert theorizing based on no evidence whatsoever. It’s funny how things change. Before, the liberal and progressive position was to create safe spaces for women. Now it seems to have shifted. Liberals & progressives want everything to be coed and conservatives want everything segregated.

How is it dangerous for girls and boys to learn about science side by side?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These aren't "secret" topics that shouldn't be discussed openly.

A lot of good points here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/10/19/why-we-shouldnt-be-separating-boys-girls-sex-ed/

"“When we divide young people by gender, the implication there is that we’re somehow giving them different messages,” says Nicole Cushman, the executive director of Answer, a sex education program at Rutgers University. “We kind of reinforce this cultural taboo about the subject, and we reinforce the idea that sex is not something to be discussed in ‘mixed company.’

“There’s definitely consensus in the field that it is a best practice, or that it is preferable, to speak to all genders at the same time.”"

"In the world-famous Dutch model of K-12 comprehensive sexuality education, which teaches egalitarian social norms at every age in one of the most gender-equal societies on the globe, in rare cases of religious objections, girls and boys may be separated for portions of their lessons."

"By teaching students of all genders alongside one another about healthy sexuality and relationships, including consent, we hand them a set of social expectations to hold in common. The more students are aware of what their peers have been taught about how to treat others, the more they can hold one another accountable."

"Clarifying and normalizing the changes of puberty can give girls empathy for a wayward erection and empower boys to compassionately offer a sweatshirt to tie over a period stain."

And I can write an article with an expert opinion that says the exact opposite lol. There’s no actual research to back the above claims up. Also the Netherlands is very different than the US when it comes to the make up and size of their population.

Go ahead and write that article, or a book to base it on, and we can all read it and form opinions.

Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I don’t care to. My point was that the article that PP posted says nothing. All it is is some so called expert theorizing based on no evidence whatsoever. It’s funny how things change. Before, the liberal and progressive position was to create safe spaces for women. Now it seems to have shifted. Liberals & progressives want everything to be coed and conservatives want everything segregated.

How is it dangerous for girls and boys to learn about science side by side?

If sex ed is separated by gender, where does a kid go who is non binary?

[Anonymous]

I don’t get the fuss. Sex Ed was co Ed when I was in 6th grade 25 years ago. Questions were asked anonymously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These aren't "secret" topics that shouldn't be discussed openly.

A lot of good points here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/10/19/why-we-shouldnt-be-separating-boys-girls-sex-ed/

"“When we divide young people by gender, the implication there is that we’re somehow giving them different messages,” says Nicole Cushman, the executive director of Answer, a sex education program at Rutgers University. “We kind of reinforce this cultural taboo about the subject, and we reinforce the idea that sex is not something to be discussed in ‘mixed company.’

“There’s definitely consensus in the field that it is a best practice, or that it is preferable, to speak to all genders at the same time.”"

"In the world-famous Dutch model of K-12 comprehensive sexuality education, which teaches egalitarian social norms at every age in one of the most gender-equal societies on the globe, in rare cases of religious objections, girls and boys may be separated for portions of their lessons."

"By teaching students of all genders alongside one another about healthy sexuality and relationships, including consent, we hand them a set of social expectations to hold in common. The more students are aware of what their peers have been taught about how to treat others, the more they can hold one another accountable."

"Clarifying and normalizing the changes of puberty can give girls empathy for a wayward erection and empower boys to compassionately offer a sweatshirt to tie over a period stain."

And I can write an article with an expert opinion that says the exact opposite lol. There’s no actual research to back the above claims up. Also the Netherlands is very different than the US when it comes to the make up and size of their population.

Go ahead and write that article, or a book to base it on, and we can all read it and form opinions.

Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I don’t care to. My point was that the article that PP posted says nothing. All it is is some so called expert theorizing based on no evidence whatsoever. It’s funny how things change. Before, the liberal and progressive position was to create safe spaces for women. Now it seems to have shifted. Liberals & progressives want everything to be coed and conservatives want everything segregated.

Huh? I am an old Democrat and I've never heard anyone pushing for gender segregation. Gender equality was DEsegregating.

That’s how we got women sports.

Not that was gender equality. That was adding women to sports, not separating them.

The women's movement was DEsegregating colleges, military, professions, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These aren't "secret" topics that shouldn't be discussed openly.

A lot of good points here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/10/19/why-we-shouldnt-be-separating-boys-girls-sex-ed/

"“When we divide young people by gender, the implication there is that we’re somehow giving them different messages,” says Nicole Cushman, the executive director of Answer, a sex education program at Rutgers University. “We kind of reinforce this cultural taboo about the subject, and we reinforce the idea that sex is not something to be discussed in ‘mixed company.’

“There’s definitely consensus in the field that it is a best practice, or that it is preferable, to speak to all genders at the same time.”"

"In the world-famous Dutch model of K-12 comprehensive sexuality education, which teaches egalitarian social norms at every age in one of the most gender-equal societies on the globe, in rare cases of religious objections, girls and boys may be separated for portions of their lessons."

"By teaching students of all genders alongside one another about healthy sexuality and relationships, including consent, we hand them a set of social expectations to hold in common. The more students are aware of what their peers have been taught about how to treat others, the more they can hold one another accountable."

"Clarifying and normalizing the changes of puberty can give girls empathy for a wayward erection and empower boys to compassionately offer a sweatshirt to tie over a period stain."

And I can write an article with an expert opinion that says the exact opposite lol. There’s no actual research to back the above claims up. Also the Netherlands is very different than the US when it comes to the make up and size of their population.

Go ahead and write that article, or a book to base it on, and we can all read it and form opinions.

Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I don’t care to. My point was that the article that PP posted says nothing. All it is is some so called expert theorizing based on no evidence whatsoever. It’s funny how things change. Before, the liberal and progressive position was to create safe spaces for women. Now it seems to have shifted. Liberals & progressives want everything to be coed and conservatives want everything segregated.

How is it dangerous for girls and boys to learn about science side by side?

"girls are fragile flowers"