Can Smell the Smoke

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Anonymous wrote:meh - whatevs. I don't get worked up about stuff I can't control.

But this could literally kill you!

Not today. Probably not tomorrow.

So are you a smoker? You don't mind breathing in asbestos? You don't mind if your children die of cancer down the line? How odd. I care. I don't want my kids to get those small particulates in their lungs simply for being outside. I'd rather they have a long, healthy life than a short one with a painful death. That's just me.

You know people usually have to smoke for 40+ years before they get the cancer. A few days of smoky air isn't going to give your kids cancer.

Tomorrow is supposed to be Code Red. That means normal, healthy people should not spend time outside if they can help or exercise outside if they can help it. Why would they recommend that if it were fine?

For om Fairfax county

Take steps to limit your exposure. For example:

Spend more time indoors, where particle pollution levels are usually lower.
Consider moving outdoor and physical activities indoors or rescheduling them.
Choose easier outdoor activities (like walking instead of running) so you don’t breathe as hard and keep those outdoor activities short.

Nothing about staying indoors.

NP.

Save your energy. For some people, anxiety and worry is like an oddly comforting blanket - especially when they condemn others. They're the same people who were complaining about the huffers and puffers, advocating for masks outside, and complaining about groups exercising outdoors during covid.

It's not panicking. Is avoiding too much bacon also panicking? Is it panicking not to want to breathe in second hand smoke? To not drink too much alcohol? Is that panicking? The answer is no. Being sensible is not the same as panicking.

You're annoying AF, PP.

Your analogy doesn't hold. You're not living a lifetime in Code Red air quality, but merely a couple of days here and there. It appears you've lost your ability to discern sense and apply concerns about excess rationally.

Sorry not sorry if I'm annoying, but if you're annoyed, maybe reflect on what's causing you to feel that way, if you're so certain that you're right in your panic problems.

[Anonymous]

New poster. Not an alarmist. Not panicking.

The air quality IS annoying. I DO smell it. It IS affecting me. It DOES suck.

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Anonymous wrote:meh - whatevs. I don't get worked up about stuff I can't control.

But this could literally kill you!

Not today. Probably not tomorrow.

So are you a smoker? You don't mind breathing in asbestos? You don't mind if your children die of cancer down the line? How odd. I care. I don't want my kids to get those small particulates in their lungs simply for being outside. I'd rather they have a long, healthy life than a short one with a painful death. That's just me.

You know people usually have to smoke for 40+ years before they get the cancer. A few days of smoky air isn't going to give your kids cancer.

Tomorrow is supposed to be Code Red. That means normal, healthy people should not spend time outside if they can help or exercise outside if they can help it. Why would they recommend that if it were fine?

For om Fairfax county

Take steps to limit your exposure. For example:

Spend more time indoors, where particle pollution levels are usually lower.
Consider moving outdoor and physical activities indoors or rescheduling them.
Choose easier outdoor activities (like walking instead of running) so you don’t breathe as hard and keep those outdoor activities short.

Nothing about staying indoors.

NP.

Save your energy. For some people, anxiety and worry is like an oddly comforting blanket - especially when they condemn others. They're the same people who were complaining about the huffers and puffers, advocating for masks outside, and complaining about groups exercising outdoors during covid.

It's not panicking. Is avoiding too much bacon also panicking? Is it panicking not to want to breathe in second hand smoke? To not drink too much alcohol? Is that panicking? The answer is no. Being sensible is not the same as panicking.

You're annoying AF, PP.

Posting on DCUM that the store put bacon on sale and everyone should be very afraid of buying it is panicking. Quietly avoiding it yourself is fine, but that’s not what PP’s did.

[Anonymous]

In comparison to code purple or whatever it was that my family had to live in for months, I guess code orange does not seem that bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New poster. Not an alarmist. Not panicking.

The air quality IS annoying. I DO smell it. It IS affecting me. It DOES suck.

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When can we begin to do something about global warming? Canada is tinder dry and part of that is that Canada is warmer than it used to be. I live in Minnesota and some of our north woods conifers are starting to die out because it’s too warm for them, too.

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They say this summer is going to be one of the worst on record for the northern hemisphere. More fires. More extreme heat waves. More climate refugees and increased costs. The new norm. It’s unreal. And people are still denying it.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a question - if smoke drifting over from hundreds of miles away is so bad... Isn't it bad to have bonfires and other controlled fires during the summer? Is smoke exposure worse from the wildfires that are in Cananda, or is it worse from the bonfire your kids are toasting smores over?

You don't seem very bright.

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My kids are in an outdoor camp that’s about to be canceled tomorrow, and for who knows how long over the next weeks. And I’m sure we won’t get a refund…

It does suck. It’s not long term dangerous to breathe smoke for a few weeks, but it is disruptive and costly.

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Anonymous wrote:They say this summer is going to be one of the worst on record for the northern hemisphere. More fires. More extreme heat waves. More climate refugees and increased costs. The new norm. It’s unreal. And people are still denying it.

This is what I find absolutely amazing. After a few years of this, I'm sure they will still be denying and denying.

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Anonymous wrote:Discussion isn’t panic.

Poster 7 on page 1:

“So are you a smoker? You don't mind breathing in asbestos? You don't mind if your children die of cancer down the line? How odd. I care. I don't want my kids to get those small particulates in their lungs simply for being outside. I'd rather they have a long, healthy life than a short one with a painful death. That's just me.”

Just curious if this is discussion or panic? Or hysteria.

That's what you consider hysteria?

When someone starts saying "Think of the children," we have passed fhe point of rational discussion.

Huh? Climate change used to be about the future. We used to be prodded to think of future generations of children who would be stuck living in a spoiled world that we left for them. Now we're all seeing climate change happening right now. Oh sorry, is that panicking and hand wringing? Too much for you?

By all means keep your children inside tomorrow if you think that will impact climate change.

You have it backwards. It’s not that keeping kids inside impacts climate change. It’s that the effects of climate change impact the kids’ ability to be outside.

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They say this summer is going to be one of the worst on record for the northern hemisphere. More fires. More extreme heat waves. More climate refugees and increased costs. The new norm. It’s unreal. And people are still denying it.


This is what I find absolutely amazing. After a few years of this, I'm sure they will still be denying and denying.

This is amazing. People on here are saying things like it's just a few days and no big deal. Let's see if they are saying that in August when we are still having these smoky days and when people's vacations are limited or ruined by this. Canada's economy is being ruined for sure. How many tourists are canceling? Sooner or later we will have climate refugees here. This is the canary in the coal mine and people refuse to see it.

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They say this summer is going to be one of the worst on record for the northern hemisphere. More fires. More extreme heat waves. More climate refugees and increased costs. The new norm. It’s unreal. And people are still denying it.


This is what I find absolutely amazing. After a few years of this, I'm sure they will still be denying and denying.

This is amazing. People on here are saying things like it's just a few days and no big deal. Let's see if they are saying that in August when we are still having these smoky days and when people's vacations are limited or ruined by this. Canada's economy is being ruined for sure. How many tourists are canceling? Sooner or later we will have climate refugees here. This is the canary in the coal mine and people refuse to see it.

It's both a big deal and not a big deal. In the short term, it's not worth panicking over and hermetically sealing your house to avoid your kids getting cancer in 40 years. Long term, it is absolutely a canary in the coal mine and you will see increased cancer rates at a population level from repeated, ongoing exposures. Plus climate refugees, economic damage, etc. etc. You can both not panic now and still be aware of what the big picture is.

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This is amazing. People on here are saying things like it's just a few days and no big deal. Let's see if they are saying that in August when we are still having these smoky days and when people's vacations are limited or ruined by this. Canada's economy is being ruined for sure. How many tourists are canceling? Sooner or later we will have climate refugees here. This is the canary in the coal mine and people refuse to see it.


It's both a big deal and not a big deal. In the short term, it's not worth panicking over and hermetically sealing your house to avoid your kids getting cancer in 40 years. Long term, it is absolutely a canary in the coal mine and you will see increased cancer rates at a population level from repeated, ongoing exposures. Plus climate refugees, economic damage, etc. etc. You can both not panic now and still be aware of what the big picture is.

I don't know who brought the words "panic" and "hysteria" into this thread, but those words are truly a disservice to everyone. Should people have some level of concern? Yes. Should people discuss this issue? Yes. Should we take prudent steps to keep ourselves healthy in both the short and long term? Yes. Should we take steps as a society to help mitigate global climate change? Yes. This is all no brainer stuff. If we just discuss the facts of the situation and not judge people's comments, we can discuss this civilly. It's the first step.

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Remember the summer days when it was SO hot and hazy that they declared the air quality to be code red. Isn't that the same as the code red for the AQI now?? We didn't wear masks before. Is it the same code red now??

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Anonymous wrote:Remember the summer days when it was SO hot and hazy that they declared the air quality to be code red. Isn't that the same as the code red for the AQI now?? We didn't wear masks before. Is it the same code red now??

If we have a code red day due to ozone, masks will not help. An N95 will not filter ozone.