Thank God I’m an Atheist

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to believe there’s a god who’s all powerful and yet allows so much horror and violence in the world.

That's what finished me.

Horrific child abuse.

A child born with a disability, and then dealing with cancer 4 times before he was even a teenager. Cruelty.

But... free will???? I don't get it, and never will. It's just some pitiful attempt to explain why there is such immense suffering and a god that doesn't do anything to alleviate it. And there isn't an excuse. No afterlife can compensate for some of the suffering I know people have experienced, and most of them don't deserve it. Yet the same people that use the "free will" card will also thank their god for being "blessed" by god in finding their soulmate, or having their layover shortened by 4 hours after praying about it. It's mind boggling, arrogant, self centered, and immoral to me. (these are real life examples of what a christian acquaintance counts as her blessings).

Parents of said child posted about how wonderful God is when the boy went into remission. I can't wrap my head around that. "Child just suffered through ANOTHER round of treatments, but YAY God is wonderful."

Maybe it's their way of trying to feel special during what is an extremely difficult time.

Extremely difficult doesn't even cover it.

Feeling special?

+1 millioin. It's my opinion that religion (specifically Christianity for me) warps people's minds and is a poison in so many subtle ways. Like this example. Not a second should be spent praying to anyone that will not do a damn thing for your sick child, and especially no time should be spent "thanking" a god for the fact that your child just suffered for months but survived due to the hard work and dedication to medical workers, doctors, scientists, etc. Over time, those thoughts and wishes lead us away from evolving, doing more research, etc. Even if it brings false "comfort", it is destructive in so many ways.

The child's sister went through a lot of anxiety because she thought maybe his illness was her fault. Maybe she wasn't doing something well enough/right. Would he die, despite everyone's efforts?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to believe there’s a god who’s all powerful and yet allows so much horror and violence in the world.

That's what finished me.

Horrific child abuse.

A child born with a disability, and then dealing with cancer 4 times before he was even a teenager. Cruelty.

But... free will???? I don't get it, and never will. It's just some pitiful attempt to explain why there is such immense suffering and a god that doesn't do anything to alleviate it. And there isn't an excuse. No afterlife can compensate for some of the suffering I know people have experienced, and most of them don't deserve it. Yet the same people that use the "free will" card will also thank their god for being "blessed" by god in finding their soulmate, or having their layover shortened by 4 hours after praying about it. It's mind boggling, arrogant, self centered, and immoral to me. (these are real life examples of what a christian acquaintance counts as her blessings).

Parents of said child posted about how wonderful God is when the boy went into remission. I can't wrap my head around that. "Child just suffered through ANOTHER round of treatments, but YAY God is wonderful."

Maybe it's their way of trying to feel special during what is an extremely difficult time.

Extremely difficult doesn't even cover it.

Feeling special?

+1 millioin. It's my opinion that religion (specifically Christianity for me) warps people's minds and is a poison in so many subtle ways. Like this example. Not a second should be spent praying to anyone that will not do a damn thing for your sick child, and especially no time should be spent "thanking" a god for the fact that your child just suffered for months but survived due to the hard work and dedication to medical workers, doctors, scientists, etc. Over time, those thoughts and wishes lead us away from evolving, doing more research, etc. Even if it brings false "comfort", it is destructive in so many ways.

The child's sister went through a lot of anxiety because she thought maybe his illness was her fault. Maybe she wasn't doing something well enough/right. Would he die, despite everyone's efforts?

What could a young sister do, besides pray? Was that what she thought she wasn't "doing right"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unitarian- Universalists do not require a belief in a deity, nor do many forms of Buddhism.

I doubt that's true about UU - religion by definition requires belief in some supernatural power.
Buddhism is more a philosophical system than a religion. It has some attributes of a religion to be sure, but Buddha was essentially an atheist.

Totally true about UU. Here is a link to the seven Principles
https://www.uua.org/beliefs/what-we-believe/principles

I have been a UU for over 40 years.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to believe there’s a god who’s all powerful and yet allows so much horror and violence in the world.

That's what finished me.

Horrific child abuse.

A child born with a disability, and then dealing with cancer 4 times before he was even a teenager. Cruelty.

But... free will???? I don't get it, and never will. It's just some pitiful attempt to explain why there is such immense suffering and a god that doesn't do anything to alleviate it. And there isn't an excuse. No afterlife can compensate for some of the suffering I know people have experienced, and most of them don't deserve it. Yet the same people that use the "free will" card will also thank their god for being "blessed" by god in finding their soulmate, or having their layover shortened by 4 hours after praying about it. It's mind boggling, arrogant, self centered, and immoral to me. (these are real life examples of what a christian acquaintance counts as her blessings).

Parents of said child posted about how wonderful God is when the boy went into remission. I can't wrap my head around that. "Child just suffered through ANOTHER round of treatments, but YAY God is wonderful."

Maybe it's their way of trying to feel special during what is an extremely difficult time.

Extremely difficult doesn't even cover it.

Feeling special?

+1 millioin. It's my opinion that religion (specifically Christianity for me) warps people's minds and is a poison in so many subtle ways. Like this example. Not a second should be spent praying to anyone that will not do a damn thing for your sick child, and especially no time should be spent "thanking" a god for the fact that your child just suffered for months but survived due to the hard work and dedication to medical workers, doctors, scientists, etc. Over time, those thoughts and wishes lead us away from evolving, doing more research, etc. Even if it brings false "comfort", it is destructive in so many ways.

The child's sister went through a lot of anxiety because she thought maybe his illness was her fault. Maybe she wasn't doing something well enough/right. Would he die, despite everyone's efforts?

What could a young sister do, besides pray? Was that what she thought she wasn't "doing right"?

If she prayed enough, he wouldn't die.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To be clear is this atheists only thread?

😂 Well, they used the word God (cap) in title. I think it’s an invitation pp.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to believe there’s a god who’s all powerful and yet allows so much horror and violence in the world.

That's what finished me.

Horrific child abuse.

A child born with a disability, and then dealing with cancer 4 times before he was even a teenager. Cruelty.

But... free will???? I don't get it, and never will. It's just some pitiful attempt to explain why there is such immense suffering and a god that doesn't do anything to alleviate it. And there isn't an excuse. No afterlife can compensate for some of the suffering I know people have experienced, and most of them don't deserve it. Yet the same people that use the "free will" card will also thank their god for being "blessed" by god in finding their soulmate, or having their layover shortened by 4 hours after praying about it. It's mind boggling, arrogant, self centered, and immoral to me. (these are real life examples of what a christian acquaintance counts as her blessings).

Parents of said child posted about how wonderful God is when the boy went into remission. I can't wrap my head around that. "Child just suffered through ANOTHER round of treatments, but YAY God is wonderful."

Maybe it's their way of trying to feel special during what is an extremely difficult time.

Extremely difficult doesn't even cover it.

Feeling special?

+1 millioin. It's my opinion that religion (specifically Christianity for me) warps people's minds and is a poison in so many subtle ways. Like this example. Not a second should be spent praying to anyone that will not do a damn thing for your sick child, and especially no time should be spent "thanking" a god for the fact that your child just suffered for months but survived due to the hard work and dedication to medical workers, doctors, scientists, etc. Over time, those thoughts and wishes lead us away from evolving, doing more research, etc. Even if it brings false "comfort", it is destructive in so many ways.

The child's sister went through a lot of anxiety because she thought maybe his illness was her fault. Maybe she wasn't doing something well enough/right. Would he die, despite everyone's efforts?

What could a young sister do, besides pray? Was that what she thought she wasn't "doing right"?

If she prayed enough, he wouldn't die.

Poor Thing. Hopefully her clergy person helped her out - and her family too.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to believe there’s a god who’s all powerful and yet allows so much horror and violence in the world.

That's what finished me.

Horrific child abuse.

A child born with a disability, and then dealing with cancer 4 times before he was even a teenager. Cruelty.

But... free will???? I don't get it, and never will. It's just some pitiful attempt to explain why there is such immense suffering and a god that doesn't do anything to alleviate it. And there isn't an excuse. No afterlife can compensate for some of the suffering I know people have experienced, and most of them don't deserve it. Yet the same people that use the "free will" card will also thank their god for being "blessed" by god in finding their soulmate, or having their layover shortened by 4 hours after praying about it. It's mind boggling, arrogant, self centered, and immoral to me. (these are real life examples of what a christian acquaintance counts as her blessings).

Parents of said child posted about how wonderful God is when the boy went into remission. I can't wrap my head around that. "Child just suffered through ANOTHER round of treatments, but YAY God is wonderful."

Maybe it's their way of trying to feel special during what is an extremely difficult time.

Extremely difficult doesn't even cover it.

Feeling special?

Feeling that God is giving them special favors by sending their kid into remission.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unitarian- Universalists do not require a belief in a deity, nor do many forms of Buddhism.

I doubt that's true about UU - religion by definition requires belief in some supernatural power.
Buddhism is more a philosophical system than a religion. It has some attributes of a religion to be sure, but Buddha was essentially an atheist.

Totally true about UU. Here is a link to the seven Principles
https://www.uua.org/beliefs/what-we-believe/principles

I have been a UU for over 40 years.

Not a UU, but know a lot of them and have been to their churches. God belief is optional. some believe and some don't. It's not a big deal and not a big topic of conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG you religion lovers are too much.

You mentioned God twice, in the subject of your thread and saying OMG. Which exactly is the God of atheists?

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Especially as a woman. How can you participate in an organization that oppresses you??

Not all religions oppress women.

Which ones don't?
Christianity - yes
Jewdiasm - yes
Islam - yes
Hinduism - maybe not, but I may as well believe in Fairy tales.

How exactly Christianity opress women?

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Anonymous wrote:Someones "triggered."

Why not have some love and tolerance for those who have different believes than you do?

Do you have love and tolerance for flat earthers? Anti-vaxxers? White nationalists?

Yes, I love all people equally. And tolerate their stupidity equally. Why don't you?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to believe there’s a god who’s all powerful and yet allows so much horror and violence in the world.

That's what finished me.

Horrific child abuse.

A child born with a disability, and then dealing with cancer 4 times before he was even a teenager. Cruelty.

But... free will???? I don't get it, and never will. It's just some pitiful attempt to explain why there is such immense suffering and a god that doesn't do anything to alleviate it. And there isn't an excuse. No afterlife can compensate for some of the suffering I know people have experienced, and most of them don't deserve it. Yet the same people that use the "free will" card will also thank their god for being "blessed" by god in finding their soulmate, or having their layover shortened by 4 hours after praying about it. It's mind boggling, arrogant, self centered, and immoral to me. (these are real life examples of what a christian acquaintance counts as her blessings).

Parents of said child posted about how wonderful God is when the boy went into remission. I can't wrap my head around that. "Child just suffered through ANOTHER round of treatments, but YAY God is wonderful."

Maybe it's their way of trying to feel special during what is an extremely difficult time.

Extremely difficult doesn't even cover it.

Feeling special?

Feeling that God is giving them special favors by sending their kid into remission.

Oh.... wow.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG you religion lovers are too much.

You mentioned God twice, in the subject of your thread and saying OMG. Which exactly is the God of atheists?

If the poster had said "Heavens to Murgatroyd!" would you be asking if they believed in Murgatroyd?

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Anonymous wrote:OMG you religion lovers are too much.

You mentioned God twice, in the subject of your thread and saying OMG. Which exactly is the God of atheists?

If the poster had said "Heavens to Murgatroyd!" would you be asking if they believed in Murgatroyd?

I didn't ask if he believed in God. I asked which exactly God did he referred to in his post. I though atheists don't believe in God.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to believe there’s a god who’s all powerful and yet allows so much horror and violence in the world.

That's what finished me.

Horrific child abuse.

A child born with a disability, and then dealing with cancer 4 times before he was even a teenager. Cruelty.

But... free will???? I don't get it, and never will. It's just some pitiful attempt to explain why there is such immense suffering and a god that doesn't do anything to alleviate it. And there isn't an excuse. No afterlife can compensate for some of the suffering I know people have experienced, and most of them don't deserve it. Yet the same people that use the "free will" card will also thank their god for being "blessed" by god in finding their soulmate, or having their layover shortened by 4 hours after praying about it. It's mind boggling, arrogant, self centered, and immoral to me. (these are real life examples of what a christian acquaintance counts as her blessings).

Parents of said child posted about how wonderful God is when the boy went into remission. I can't wrap my head around that. "Child just suffered through ANOTHER round of treatments, but YAY God is wonderful."

There are many children who didn't make it through that round of treatment. I think what they are saying that God is wonderful to them for saving their child's life.