Thank God I’m an Atheist

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3. “denying our human impulses” ok humans have alot of impulses.

Interesting that you believe all impulses are bad. And you jump right to murder and rape.

Impulse control disorders are very bad.

When people constantly act on impulse, they appear out of control, their behavior is erratic and their lives may feel unstable.

Like I said, it is interesting that you see “human impulse” so negatively. “Disorder”, “erratic”, etc.

I absolutely think decisions made with forethought and logic are superior to impulsive decisions.

Allowing your urges and desires to steer your decisions is usually not a good idea.

I assume that PP was using “human impulses” to mean “sex”.

Nothing wrong with sex between two consenting adults.

what if you're married though? Isn't that immoral? I mean thou shalt not covent thy neighbors wife, right?

Sex isn’t moral or amoral. It’s just a normal, healthy act when it’s between two consenting adults.

If you break a promise to someone that’s not good. But that’s different than sex itself.

What about giving your girlfriend an STD?

What about having a baby with your boyfriend while married to your husband?

What about being arrested for sex in public with your wife?

Not good things but the fundamental issues aren’t sex.

Hurt someone (health)
Break promise
Bad location

Other decisions around sex could be bad, but sex itself isn’t bad.

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Anonymous wrote:I think trying to walk the straight and narrow path without being a hypocrite would be so difficult. I wonder how the religious folks reconcile this?
I also think it would be so boring. Like denying much of our human impulses which, you know, God gave us in the first place.

What kind of human impulses are you talking about? Like having sex with someone you think is attractive even if they don’t consent?

Or seeing a material object you like that belongs to someone else, that you can’t afford to buy yourself, that you really want- so you take it for yourself?

Or you don’t want to pay taxes on your income so you just don’t file?


Or you get bored with your spouse and fall out of love so you decide to find someone you are more attracted to and leave in the middle of the night and start over afresh?

Or your neighbor is so darn annoying. Always complaining about your dog barking and arguing about noise laws. So one day you decide instead of dealing with your big mouth neighbor constantly complaining, you are going to punch him in his fat face.

These kinds of human impulses?

when I read a disgusting post like this I'm even more glad I'm an atheist. And I did give it a try going the other way, but never could buy into it. Maybe there's a gene that makes one susceptible to belief and some of us just don't have it?

a pp at 8:39 posted this:

“I think trying to walk the straight and narrow path without being a hypocrite would be so difficult. I wonder how the religious folks reconcile this?
I also think it would be so boring. Like denying much of our human impulses which, you know, God gave us in the first place.“

I’ve asked pp to clarify and they have thus far stayed silent.

To me, they seem to be saying:

1. “trying to walk the straight and narrow path without being a religious hypocrite is hard.” I agree. If you are religious and make no attempt to abide by the moral rules of your religion, acknowledge when you fail, ask for forgiveness, and put all your effort into abstaining from sin, you are possibly a hypocrite, depending on your attitude towards other people. But pp won’t clarify.

2. “It would be so boring.” Maybe to pp. That’s their opinion. I don’t think it’s boring. To them it is though and that’s valid for their life outlook.

3. “denying our human impulses” ok humans have alot of impulses. Murder, rape, violence, gun crime, etc. Impulse control is a big deal. We have to teach our kids to control their impulses to be successful adults. Adults with poor impulse control have higher rates of all the bad things in life. If you see a delicious chocolate cake and your impulse is to eat it all- that’s bad, too. If your toddler sees a bowl of candy at grandma’s house and runs to it and grabs two handfuls and starts eating candy with abandon that’s bad news.

4. “God gave us in the first place” so pp is a Christian? They believe God gave us these “impulsive” behaviors? A Christian would know God is holy. God is perfect. We are made in His image. He didn’t give us sin. But pp is a Christian who believes God made us sin.

So at the very least they could clarify their post.

God didn't give us sin? So where did it come from then?

1. If you are a Christian, ask your pastor

2. If you are an atheist, you don’t believe in God or sin, so it has no bearing on your life and we are both wasting our time discussing this subject.

And if you're Jewish or Muslim or some other religion?

I am not the spokesperson for religions of the world. You will have to ask each of those religions how they do their thing. I assume you have access to the internet as you post online, and you have access to google?

How would those religions know what PP meant by “god didn’t make sin”?

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Anonymous wrote:Where did sin come from?

https://www.gotquestions.org/where-did-sin-come-from.html

Cool. So man created the concept of "sin." So we can define it how we want, or eliminate the idea altogether.
I note from that link, God created Satan too. I wonder why he keeps him around?
So many questions? Like who created good and evil? Presumably God. Why create evil?
I dunno, I guess ask your pastor?

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Anonymous wrote:I think trying to walk the straight and narrow path without being a hypocrite would be so difficult. I wonder how the religious folks reconcile this?
I also think it would be so boring. Like denying much of our human impulses which, you know, God gave us in the first place.

What kind of human impulses are you talking about? Like having sex with someone you think is attractive even if they don’t consent?

Or seeing a material object you like that belongs to someone else, that you can’t afford to buy yourself, that you really want- so you take it for yourself?

Or you don’t want to pay taxes on your income so you just don’t file?


Or you get bored with your spouse and fall out of love so you decide to find someone you are more attracted to and leave in the middle of the night and start over afresh?

Or your neighbor is so darn annoying. Always complaining about your dog barking and arguing about noise laws. So one day you decide instead of dealing with your big mouth neighbor constantly complaining, you are going to punch him in his fat face.

These kinds of human impulses?

when I read a disgusting post like this I'm even more glad I'm an atheist. And I did give it a try going the other way, but never could buy into it. Maybe there's a gene that makes one susceptible to belief and some of us just don't have it?

a pp at 8:39 posted this:

“I think trying to walk the straight and narrow path without being a hypocrite would be so difficult. I wonder how the religious folks reconcile this?
I also think it would be so boring. Like denying much of our human impulses which, you know, God gave us in the first place.“

I’ve asked pp to clarify and they have thus far stayed silent.

To me, they seem to be saying:

1. “trying to walk the straight and narrow path without being a religious hypocrite is hard.” I agree. If you are religious and make no attempt to abide by the moral rules of your religion, acknowledge when you fail, ask for forgiveness, and put all your effort into abstaining from sin, you are possibly a hypocrite, depending on your attitude towards other people. But pp won’t clarify.

2. “It would be so boring.” Maybe to pp. That’s their opinion. I don’t think it’s boring. To them it is though and that’s valid for their life outlook.

3. “denying our human impulses” ok humans have alot of impulses. Murder, rape, violence, gun crime, etc. Impulse control is a big deal. We have to teach our kids to control their impulses to be successful adults. Adults with poor impulse control have higher rates of all the bad things in life. If you see a delicious chocolate cake and your impulse is to eat it all- that’s bad, too. If your toddler sees a bowl of candy at grandma’s house and runs to it and grabs two handfuls and starts eating candy with abandon that’s bad news.

4. “God gave us in the first place” so pp is a Christian? They believe God gave us these “impulsive” behaviors? A Christian would know God is holy. God is perfect. We are made in His image. He didn’t give us sin. But pp is a Christian who believes God made us sin.

So at the very least they could clarify their post.

God didn't give us sin? So where did it come from then?

1. If you are a Christian, ask your pastor

2. If you are an atheist, you don’t believe in God or sin, so it has no bearing on your life and we are both wasting our time discussing this subject.

And if you're Jewish or Muslim or some other religion?

I am not the spokesperson for religions of the world. You will have to ask each of those religions how they do their thing. I assume you have access to the internet as you post online, and you have access to google?

How would those religions know what PP meant by “god didn’t make sin”?

How am I supposed to answer for two entire religions- neither of which am I a member of?

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3. “denying our human impulses” ok humans have alot of impulses.

Interesting that you believe all impulses are bad. And you jump right to murder and rape.

Impulse control disorders are very bad.

When people constantly act on impulse, they appear out of control, their behavior is erratic and their lives may feel unstable.

Like I said, it is interesting that you see “human impulse” so negatively. “Disorder”, “erratic”, etc.

I absolutely think decisions made with forethought and logic are superior to impulsive decisions.

Allowing your urges and desires to steer your decisions is usually not a good idea.

I assume that PP was using “human impulses” to mean “sex”.

Nothing wrong with sex between two consenting adults.

what if you're married though? Isn't that immoral? I mean thou shalt not covent thy neighbors wife, right?

Sex isn’t moral or amoral. It’s just a normal, healthy act when it’s between two consenting adults.

If you break a promise to someone that’s not good. But that’s different than sex itself.

I'm with you, but most of the religions of the world see that as immoral if not sinful. Not sure why.

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Anonymous wrote:Where did sin come from?

https://www.gotquestions.org/where-did-sin-come-from.html

Cool. So man created the concept of "sin." So we can define it how we want, or eliminate the idea altogether.
I note from that link, God created Satan too. I wonder why he keeps him around?
So many questions? Like who created good and evil? Presumably God. Why create evil?
I dunno, I guess ask your pastor?

Are an atheist?

If you are, are worried about sin? If so, why?

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Anonymous wrote:Where did sin come from?

https://www.gotquestions.org/where-did-sin-come-from.html

Cool. So man created the concept of "sin." So we can define it how we want, or eliminate the idea altogether.
I note from that link, God created Satan too. I wonder why he keeps him around?
So many questions? Like who created good and evil? Presumably God. Why create evil?
I dunno, I guess ask your pastor?

Are an atheist?

If you are, are worried about sin? If so, why?

*you

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Anonymous wrote:I think trying to walk the straight and narrow path without being a hypocrite would be so difficult. I wonder how the religious folks reconcile this?
I also think it would be so boring. Like denying much of our human impulses which, you know, God gave us in the first place.

What kind of human impulses are you talking about? Like having sex with someone you think is attractive even if they don’t consent?

Or seeing a material object you like that belongs to someone else, that you can’t afford to buy yourself, that you really want- so you take it for yourself?

Or you don’t want to pay taxes on your income so you just don’t file?


Or you get bored with your spouse and fall out of love so you decide to find someone you are more attracted to and leave in the middle of the night and start over afresh?

Or your neighbor is so darn annoying. Always complaining about your dog barking and arguing about noise laws. So one day you decide instead of dealing with your big mouth neighbor constantly complaining, you are going to punch him in his fat face.

These kinds of human impulses?

when I read a disgusting post like this I'm even more glad I'm an atheist. And I did give it a try going the other way, but never could buy into it. Maybe there's a gene that makes one susceptible to belief and some of us just don't have it?

a pp at 8:39 posted this:

“I think trying to walk the straight and narrow path without being a hypocrite would be so difficult. I wonder how the religious folks reconcile this?
I also think it would be so boring. Like denying much of our human impulses which, you know, God gave us in the first place.“

I’ve asked pp to clarify and they have thus far stayed silent.

To me, they seem to be saying:

1. “trying to walk the straight and narrow path without being a religious hypocrite is hard.” I agree. If you are religious and make no attempt to abide by the moral rules of your religion, acknowledge when you fail, ask for forgiveness, and put all your effort into abstaining from sin, you are possibly a hypocrite, depending on your attitude towards other people. But pp won’t clarify.

2. “It would be so boring.” Maybe to pp. That’s their opinion. I don’t think it’s boring. To them it is though and that’s valid for their life outlook.

3. “denying our human impulses” ok humans have alot of impulses. Murder, rape, violence, gun crime, etc. Impulse control is a big deal. We have to teach our kids to control their impulses to be successful adults. Adults with poor impulse control have higher rates of all the bad things in life. If you see a delicious chocolate cake and your impulse is to eat it all- that’s bad, too. If your toddler sees a bowl of candy at grandma’s house and runs to it and grabs two handfuls and starts eating candy with abandon that’s bad news.

4. “God gave us in the first place” so pp is a Christian? They believe God gave us these “impulsive” behaviors? A Christian would know God is holy. God is perfect. We are made in His image. He didn’t give us sin. But pp is a Christian who believes God made us sin.

So at the very least they could clarify their post.

God didn't give us sin? So where did it come from then?

1. If you are a Christian, ask your pastor

2. If you are an atheist, you don’t believe in God or sin, so it has no bearing on your life and we are both wasting our time discussing this subject.

And if you're Jewish or Muslim or some other religion?

I am not the spokesperson for religions of the world. You will have to ask each of those religions how they do their thing. I assume you have access to the internet as you post online, and you have access to google?

How would those religions know what PP meant by “god didn’t make sin”?

How am I supposed to answer for two entire religions- neither of which am I a member of?

I don’t think the other religions know what PP meant. PP for answer for himself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where did sin come from?

https://www.gotquestions.org/where-did-sin-come-from.html

Cool. So man created the concept of "sin." So we can define it how we want, or eliminate the idea altogether.
I note from that link, God created Satan too. I wonder why he keeps him around?
So many questions? Like who created good and evil? Presumably God. Why create evil?
I dunno, I guess ask your pastor?

Are an atheist?

If you are, are worried about sin? If so, why?

DP. I’m not worried about “sin” but the other PP equated “impulses” to “sin”. Seems like a stretch.

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Anonymous wrote:I think trying to walk the straight and narrow path without being a hypocrite would be so difficult. I wonder how the religious folks reconcile this?
I also think it would be so boring. Like denying much of our human impulses which, you know, God gave us in the first place.

What kind of human impulses are you talking about? Like having sex with someone you think is attractive even if they don’t consent?

Or seeing a material object you like that belongs to someone else, that you can’t afford to buy yourself, that you really want- so you take it for yourself?

Or you don’t want to pay taxes on your income so you just don’t file?


Or you get bored with your spouse and fall out of love so you decide to find someone you are more attracted to and leave in the middle of the night and start over afresh?

Or your neighbor is so darn annoying. Always complaining about your dog barking and arguing about noise laws. So one day you decide instead of dealing with your big mouth neighbor constantly complaining, you are going to punch him in his fat face.

These kinds of human impulses?

when I read a disgusting post like this I'm even more glad I'm an atheist. And I did give it a try going the other way, but never could buy into it. Maybe there's a gene that makes one susceptible to belief and some of us just don't have it?

Inability to cope with uncertainty?
Fearful personality?

I’m going to add masochism to the list.

will add:
raised that way and can't think for themselves
have hit rock bottom already

Needs to ask pastors for answers because can’t think for themselves

adding: more likely to believe in UFOs, ghosts, etc.

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3. “denying our human impulses” ok humans have alot of impulses.

Interesting that you believe all impulses are bad. And you jump right to murder and rape.

Impulse control disorders are very bad.

When people constantly act on impulse, they appear out of control, their behavior is erratic and their lives may feel unstable.

Like I said, it is interesting that you see “human impulse” so negatively. “Disorder”, “erratic”, etc.

I absolutely think decisions made with forethought and logic are superior to impulsive decisions.

Allowing your urges and desires to steer your decisions is usually not a good idea.

I assume that PP was using “human impulses” to mean “sex”.

Nothing wrong with sex between two consenting adults.

what if you're married though? Isn't that immoral? I mean thou shalt not covent thy neighbors wife, right?

Sex isn’t moral or amoral. It’s just a normal, healthy act when it’s between two consenting adults.

If you break a promise to someone that’s not good. But that’s different than sex itself.

I'm with you, but most of the religions of the world see that as immoral if not sinful. Not sure why.

Maybe because men want reassurance that they are bringing up their own kids.

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3. “denying our human impulses” ok humans have alot of impulses.

Interesting that you believe all impulses are bad. And you jump right to murder and rape.

Impulse control disorders are very bad.

When people constantly act on impulse, they appear out of control, their behavior is erratic and their lives may feel unstable.

Like I said, it is interesting that you see “human impulse” so negatively. “Disorder”, “erratic”, etc.

I absolutely think decisions made with forethought and logic are superior to impulsive decisions.

Allowing your urges and desires to steer your decisions is usually not a good idea.

I assume that PP was using “human impulses” to mean “sex”.

Nothing wrong with sex between two consenting adults.

what if you're married though? Isn't that immoral? I mean thou shalt not covent thy neighbors wife, right?

Sex isn’t moral or amoral. It’s just a normal, healthy act when it’s between two consenting adults.

If you break a promise to someone that’s not good. But that’s different than sex itself.

I'm with you, but most of the religions of the world see that as immoral if not sinful. Not sure why.

Maybe because men want reassurance that they are bringing up their own kids.

I assumed it was because adultery was harmful to social cohesion, especially back in the biblical days.

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3. “denying our human impulses” ok humans have alot of impulses.

Interesting that you believe all impulses are bad. And you jump right to murder and rape.

Impulse control disorders are very bad.

When people constantly act on impulse, they appear out of control, their behavior is erratic and their lives may feel unstable.

Like I said, it is interesting that you see “human impulse” so negatively. “Disorder”, “erratic”, etc.

I absolutely think decisions made with forethought and logic are superior to impulsive decisions.

Allowing your urges and desires to steer your decisions is usually not a good idea.

I assume that PP was using “human impulses” to mean “sex”.

Nothing wrong with sex between two consenting adults.

what if you're married though? Isn't that immoral? I mean thou shalt not covent thy neighbors wife, right?

Sex isn’t moral or amoral. It’s just a normal, healthy act when it’s between two consenting adults.

If you break a promise to someone that’s not good. But that’s different than sex itself.

I'm with you, but most of the religions of the world see that as immoral if not sinful. Not sure why.

Maybe because men want reassurance that they are bringing up their own kids.

But a lot of men in the OT had multiple wives and concubines. Of course pre-marital sex was taboo.

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3. “denying our human impulses” ok humans have alot of impulses.

Interesting that you believe all impulses are bad. And you jump right to murder and rape.

Impulse control disorders are very bad.

When people constantly act on impulse, they appear out of control, their behavior is erratic and their lives may feel unstable.

Like I said, it is interesting that you see “human impulse” so negatively. “Disorder”, “erratic”, etc.

I absolutely think decisions made with forethought and logic are superior to impulsive decisions.

Allowing your urges and desires to steer your decisions is usually not a good idea.

I assume that PP was using “human impulses” to mean “sex”.

Nothing wrong with sex between two consenting adults.

what if you're married though? Isn't that immoral? I mean thou shalt not covent thy neighbors wife, right?

Sex isn’t moral or amoral. It’s just a normal, healthy act when it’s between two consenting adults.

If you break a promise to someone that’s not good. But that’s different than sex itself.

I'm with you, but most of the religions of the world see that as immoral if not sinful. Not sure why.

It’s another way to control women. Just like prohibiting contraceptives.

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3. “denying our human impulses” ok humans have alot of impulses.

Interesting that you believe all impulses are bad. And you jump right to murder and rape.

Impulse control disorders are very bad.

When people constantly act on impulse, they appear out of control, their behavior is erratic and their lives may feel unstable.

Like I said, it is interesting that you see “human impulse” so negatively. “Disorder”, “erratic”, etc.

I absolutely think decisions made with forethought and logic are superior to impulsive decisions.

Allowing your urges and desires to steer your decisions is usually not a good idea.

I assume that PP was using “human impulses” to mean “sex”.

Nothing wrong with sex between two consenting adults.

what if you're married though? Isn't that immoral? I mean thou shalt not covent thy neighbors wife, right?

Sex isn’t moral or amoral. It’s just a normal, healthy act when it’s between two consenting adults.

If you break a promise to someone that’s not good. But that’s different than sex itself.

I'm with you, but most of the religions of the world see that as immoral if not sinful. Not sure why.

It’s another way to control women. Just like prohibiting contraceptives.

Men also take care of their children, so is the prohibition of contraception a way of controlling men as well? Babies and children are not just women’s responsibilities.