Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Sucks to all be lumped together doesn’t it?


+1,000,000


“When you're accustomed to privilege equality feels like oppression”


It’s inapplicable. Equality in that construction means equal opportunity and fairness. What you’re arguing for is petty-B sharing of stereotyping and counter oppression. It’s not a good look.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow. This woman is crazy wtf was her problem? She is crying wolf and fake tears. I’m glad this is on video. Otherwise people would just be saying “believe her”.


I thought we are just supposed to let mentally ill people do whatever they want, regardless of what harm it causes other people?


It's just a nuisance.


But it's not just a nuisance. If that woman had succeeded in riding off on the bike, the man would have suffered an actual loss. At minimum just a minor financial loss (a short time amount of rental fees) but potentially a large financial loss (if she had damaged or stolen the bike.)


Sorry, we can't speculate on events that didn't happen.


Absolutely we can. Haven't you ever read a contract? every contract is just speculation on things that didn't happen. The mad who paid to use the bike accurately speculated the worst case and didn't let the woman injure him financially. Good for him.


Right???
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Anonymous wrote:The mental gymnastics folks are doing in this thread to excuse the white lady are crazy!

If a Black person had done that to a white person, people would be all "she should go to jail" or call for all kinds of crazy punishment. If she was Black, people would be arguing that she should have been wrestled to the ground - I mean who knows if she had a weapon or something?!

The fact that this white woman got to walk away from trying to steal a bike right in front of people is crazy! Not to mention that some people there actually encouraged the guy to give her the bike - what the H@ll?


I'm a white woman and I agree with you absolutely.
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Anonymous wrote:Count me among the people who think she's very much in the wrong and that her fake crying is awful but also think the way this has gone viral and how she's being held up as emblematic of all white women is troubling.

One of the first things I thought of when I saw this video was a time when I was walking down a city street texting, minding my own business, when a group of 4 teen girls walked up and demanded I give them my phone. My first instinct at the time, since it was about 6pm on a weekday and there were lots of people around, was to loudly start saying "These girls are trying to take my phone!" Not screaming, but just announcing to passers by what was happing in case they tried to physically take it from me. They laughed at me and walked away. I think my instincts were good.

But watching this video and the response, I now wonder how that response would look if it was recorded by someone else. Would it be clear to others what was going on? What if the video didn't catch the part where the girls demanded my phone? What did I look like calling out like that? Like some entitled white lady trying to get a group of young black people in trouble? In 2023, if a bystander heard me saying that, would they understand what was happening or assume I was just a white lade crying wolf?

So while I now understand enough context to get this woman was definitely in the wrong and find her behavior abhorrent, I worry about just assuming that anytime you see a white woman calling for help that she is faking it. Sometimes people do need help. Not all white women are bad actors. Not all black people are in the right. It feels like we are swinging from one set of assumptions to another and I don't think the outcomes are going to be great.

A woman being labelled a Karen is not the same as a black man having police sicced on him.


Yelling “help” when you think you are being threatened or stolen from is not “siccing police” on anyone. It’s calling for help. Until anyone can prove to me that the woman knew the bike wan’t hers, I’m neutral.

It is a rental bike which was rented by another person, who was right there with the reservation on his phone. 10/10 not her bike and she knew it.


THE VIDEO DOES NOT SHOW THAT.

SHE NEVER, NOT ONCE, SAYS IT’S HER BIKE.
The guy who reserved the bike has the reservation on his phone.
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Anonymous wrote:Count me among the people who think she's very much in the wrong and that her fake crying is awful but also think the way this has gone viral and how she's being held up as emblematic of all white women is troubling.

One of the first things I thought of when I saw this video was a time when I was walking down a city street texting, minding my own business, when a group of 4 teen girls walked up and demanded I give them my phone. My first instinct at the time, since it was about 6pm on a weekday and there were lots of people around, was to loudly start saying "These girls are trying to take my phone!" Not screaming, but just announcing to passers by what was happing in case they tried to physically take it from me. They laughed at me and walked away. I think my instincts were good.

But watching this video and the response, I now wonder how that response would look if it was recorded by someone else. Would it be clear to others what was going on? What if the video didn't catch the part where the girls demanded my phone? What did I look like calling out like that? Like some entitled white lady trying to get a group of young black people in trouble? In 2023, if a bystander heard me saying that, would they understand what was happening or assume I was just a white lade crying wolf?

So while I now understand enough context to get this woman was definitely in the wrong and find her behavior abhorrent, I worry about just assuming that anytime you see a white woman calling for help that she is faking it. Sometimes people do need help. Not all white women are bad actors. Not all black people are in the right. It feels like we are swinging from one set of assumptions to another and I don't think the outcomes are going to be great.

A woman being labelled a Karen is not the same as a black man having police sicced on him.


Yelling “help” when you think you are being threatened or stolen from is not “siccing police” on anyone. It’s calling for help. Until anyone can prove to me that the woman knew the bike wan’t hers, I’m neutral.

It is a rental bike which was rented by another person, who was right there with the reservation on his phone. 10/10 not her bike and she knew it.


THE VIDEO DOES NOT SHOW THAT.

SHE NEVER, NOT ONCE, SAYS IT’S HER BIKE.
The guy who reserved the bike has the reservation on his phone.


The video doesn’t show who had the reservation. It’s also edited.
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Anonymous wrote:Count me among the people who think she's very much in the wrong and that her fake crying is awful but also think the way this has gone viral and how she's being held up as emblematic of all white women is troubling.

One of the first things I thought of when I saw this video was a time when I was walking down a city street texting, minding my own business, when a group of 4 teen girls walked up and demanded I give them my phone. My first instinct at the time, since it was about 6pm on a weekday and there were lots of people around, was to loudly start saying "These girls are trying to take my phone!" Not screaming, but just announcing to passers by what was happing in case they tried to physically take it from me. They laughed at me and walked away. I think my instincts were good.

But watching this video and the response, I now wonder how that response would look if it was recorded by someone else. Would it be clear to others what was going on? What if the video didn't catch the part where the girls demanded my phone? What did I look like calling out like that? Like some entitled white lady trying to get a group of young black people in trouble? In 2023, if a bystander heard me saying that, would they understand what was happening or assume I was just a white lade crying wolf?

So while I now understand enough context to get this woman was definitely in the wrong and find her behavior abhorrent, I worry about just assuming that anytime you see a white woman calling for help that she is faking it. Sometimes people do need help. Not all white women are bad actors. Not all black people are in the right. It feels like we are swinging from one set of assumptions to another and I don't think the outcomes are going to be great.

A woman being labelled a Karen is not the same as a black man having police sicced on him.


I didn't say it was the same. But it's still dangerous to start assuming that any white woman asking for help is lying. The idea that white women are de facto liars is troubling to me, a white woman who does not steal bikes from people or call the cops on black men for kicks. I don't want the behavior of these white women being used to justify not believing me when I'm telling the truth, and I do worry that we are defining these incidents very broadly and the fixation on how she sounded when she asked for help or the look on her face as being indicative of what was happening concerns me. As a white woman, I worry that I could look and sound like that even if I was genuinely in need of help.


+1.


Sucks to all be lumped together doesn’t it?


F’ing wow. You don’t know PP, or me, and of course it does. I’m mixed and look more or less totally white, and I’m not going to take stupid crap from you or anyone else about how I’m a bad actor by dint of my skin tone when I haven’t engaged in a bad act. You think that everyone who you think is a WASP because you just don’t know, is necessarily lumping in all Black men or women together? That’s your f’ing problem.

I think this woman was faking tears and even faking her confusion, and is going to lose her job, and I posted accordingly. You’re just of a vengeful mindset, so good luck with that, it seems really productive.


Seems like a nerve was struck. You identify as white, per your words. You relate to this woman. You’re mad bc you’re worried about being lumped in with the numerous white women who have cried wolf. You don’t have to worry though, even if you’re lying you’ll still receive help, sympathy and the benefit of doubt. People will rush to help you.

Unfortunately, those of us who cannot identify as white don’t get that benefit. But that’s our f’ing problem.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Sucks to all be lumped together doesn’t it?


+1,000,000


“When you're accustomed to privilege equality feels like oppression”


It’s inapplicable. Equality in that construction means equal opportunity and fairness. What you’re arguing for is petty-B sharing of stereotyping and counter oppression. It’s not a good look.


Not a good look for who?

The people who spent centuries oppressing others and now faced with the question, doesn’t it suck to feel what oppressed people are going through. Or the people asking, doesn’t oppression suck.
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Anonymous wrote:Count me among the people who think she's very much in the wrong and that her fake crying is awful but also think the way this has gone viral and how she's being held up as emblematic of all white women is troubling.

One of the first things I thought of when I saw this video was a time when I was walking down a city street texting, minding my own business, when a group of 4 teen girls walked up and demanded I give them my phone. My first instinct at the time, since it was about 6pm on a weekday and there were lots of people around, was to loudly start saying "These girls are trying to take my phone!" Not screaming, but just announcing to passers by what was happing in case they tried to physically take it from me. They laughed at me and walked away. I think my instincts were good.

But watching this video and the response, I now wonder how that response would look if it was recorded by someone else. Would it be clear to others what was going on? What if the video didn't catch the part where the girls demanded my phone? What did I look like calling out like that? Like some entitled white lady trying to get a group of young black people in trouble? In 2023, if a bystander heard me saying that, would they understand what was happening or assume I was just a white lade crying wolf?

So while I now understand enough context to get this woman was definitely in the wrong and find her behavior abhorrent, I worry about just assuming that anytime you see a white woman calling for help that she is faking it. Sometimes people do need help. Not all white women are bad actors. Not all black people are in the right. It feels like we are swinging from one set of assumptions to another and I don't think the outcomes are going to be great.

A woman being labelled a Karen is not the same as a black man having police sicced on him.


I didn't say it was the same. But it's still dangerous to start assuming that any white woman asking for help is lying. The idea that white women are de facto liars is troubling to me, a white woman who does not steal bikes from people or call the cops on black men for kicks. I don't want the behavior of these white women being used to justify not believing me when I'm telling the truth, and I do worry that we are defining these incidents very broadly and the fixation on how she sounded when she asked for help or the look on her face as being indicative of what was happening concerns me. As a white woman, I worry that I could look and sound like that even if I was genuinely in need of help.


+1.


Sucks to all be lumped together doesn’t it?


F’ing wow. You don’t know PP, or me, and of course it does. I’m mixed and look more or less totally white, and I’m not going to take stupid crap from you or anyone else about how I’m a bad actor by dint of my skin tone when I haven’t engaged in a bad act. You think that everyone who you think is a WASP because you just don’t know, is necessarily lumping in all Black men or women together? That’s your f’ing problem.

I think this woman was faking tears and even faking her confusion, and is going to lose her job, and I posted accordingly. You’re just of a vengeful mindset, so good luck with that, it seems really productive.


Seems like a nerve was struck. You identify as white, per your words. You relate to this woman. You’re mad bc you’re worried about being lumped in with the numerous white women who have cried wolf. You don’t have to worry though, even if you’re lying you’ll still receive help, sympathy and the benefit of doubt. People will rush to help you.

Unfortunately, those of us who cannot identify as white don’t get that benefit. But that’s our f’ing problem.


It harms your argument when you act as if white women aren’t subject to appalling rates of sexual assault, violence and harassment (which while not as high as the even more appalling rates for biopic woman is still sucks.) this white woman sucks but did something absurd and racist but you take away from that with your glib take on how great white women have it.
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I wouldn't be surprised if this entire thing was fake and they were all in on it. She was clearly not afraid. It's possible she reserved a bike before the camera starts--like before she came out of the hospital and legit thought it was hers because they both reserved at the same time. It's also possible she's a POS and is crying wolf. It's also possible, and IMO most likely, they were all in on it and made the whole scenario up as some sort of public commentary experiment.
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I watched the video and I have no idea what I just saw. I’m so confused by everyone else’s confidence.
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Anonymous wrote:Count me among the people who think she's very much in the wrong and that her fake crying is awful but also think the way this has gone viral and how she's being held up as emblematic of all white women is troubling.

One of the first things I thought of when I saw this video was a time when I was walking down a city street texting, minding my own business, when a group of 4 teen girls walked up and demanded I give them my phone. My first instinct at the time, since it was about 6pm on a weekday and there were lots of people around, was to loudly start saying "These girls are trying to take my phone!" Not screaming, but just announcing to passers by what was happing in case they tried to physically take it from me. They laughed at me and walked away. I think my instincts were good.

But watching this video and the response, I now wonder how that response would look if it was recorded by someone else. Would it be clear to others what was going on? What if the video didn't catch the part where the girls demanded my phone? What did I look like calling out like that? Like some entitled white lady trying to get a group of young black people in trouble? In 2023, if a bystander heard me saying that, would they understand what was happening or assume I was just a white lade crying wolf?

So while I now understand enough context to get this woman was definitely in the wrong and find her behavior abhorrent, I worry about just assuming that anytime you see a white woman calling for help that she is faking it. Sometimes people do need help. Not all white women are bad actors. Not all black people are in the right. It feels like we are swinging from one set of assumptions to another and I don't think the outcomes are going to be great.

A woman being labelled a Karen is not the same as a black man having police sicced on him.


I didn't say it was the same. But it's still dangerous to start assuming that any white woman asking for help is lying. The idea that white women are de facto liars is troubling to me, a white woman who does not steal bikes from people or call the cops on black men for kicks. I don't want the behavior of these white women being used to justify not believing me when I'm telling the truth, and I do worry that we are defining these incidents very broadly and the fixation on how she sounded when she asked for help or the look on her face as being indicative of what was happening concerns me. As a white woman, I worry that I could look and sound like that even if I was genuinely in need of help.


+1.


Sucks to all be lumped together doesn’t it?


F’ing wow. You don’t know PP, or me, and of course it does. I’m mixed and look more or less totally white, and I’m not going to take stupid crap from you or anyone else about how I’m a bad actor by dint of my skin tone when I haven’t engaged in a bad act. You think that everyone who you think is a WASP because you just don’t know, is necessarily lumping in all Black men or women together? That’s your f’ing problem.

I think this woman was faking tears and even faking her confusion, and is going to lose her job, and I posted accordingly. You’re just of a vengeful mindset, so good luck with that, it seems really productive.


Seems like a nerve was struck. You identify as white, per your words. You relate to this woman. You’re mad bc you’re worried about being lumped in with the numerous white women who have cried wolf. You don’t have to worry though, even if you’re lying you’ll still receive help, sympathy and the benefit of doubt. People will rush to help you.

Unfortunately, those of us who cannot identify as white don’t get that benefit. But that’s our f’ing problem.


It harms your argument when you act as if white women aren’t subject to appalling rates of sexual assault, violence and harassment (which while not as high as the even more appalling rates for biopic woman is still sucks.) this white woman sucks but did something absurd and racist but you take away from that with your glib take on how great white women have it.


You are having a different argument and trying to deflect. The argument is white women are being lumped together as “Karen’s” the way other POC have been lumped together forever whenever someone does something negative. So I’ll ask again, it sucks to be lumped all together right?
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Anonymous wrote:She is mentally fit to 1) remove her badge as soon as she realized that she was filmed; 2) start fake crying when she sees her colleague approaching and immediately stop crying when she knew it was not working.

She might be overworked and tired but so many of us are but we don't try to pull sh%t like that.


Exactly. I hope she loses her job and possibly her license. She doesn't deserve the privilege of working in healthcare.
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Anonymous wrote:I watched the video and I have no idea what I just saw. I’m so confused by everyone else’s confidence.


Have you ever used citibike before?

A lot of posters seem confused about the situation, and I wonder if that’s because they’re not familiar with the app and haven’t done the bike share before. It seems like people defending her, saying maybe she was confused and thought it was her bike are definitely not familiar with it, or they’d realize that argument doesn’t hold water. She didn’t reserve it, she didn’t unlock it, she couldn’t possibly think it was hers.

For the poster who said it’s sort of like she tried to jump into a taxi someone else was waiting for, I’d say since he already activated it, it’s more like she tried to take someone else’s Uber and stick them with the bill.

I wonder how many people she lied about in the past and tormented. She tried to bully these guys but they stayed calm and cool and called out her nonsense, and most importantly got video of the situation. Even with a video there are still people trying to say she didn’t do anything wrong. She’s lucky there weren’t any marines around feeling threatened by her yelling, touching people, and swiping their phones.
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Anonymous wrote:I watched the video and I have no idea what I just saw. I’m so confused by everyone else’s confidence.


Have you ever used citibike before?

A lot of posters seem confused about the situation, and I wonder if that’s because they’re not familiar with the app and haven’t done the bike share before. It seems like people defending her, saying maybe she was confused and thought it was her bike are definitely not familiar with it, or they’d realize that argument doesn’t hold water. She didn’t reserve it, she didn’t unlock it, she couldn’t possibly think it was hers.

For the poster who said it’s sort of like she tried to jump into a taxi someone else was waiting for, I’d say since he already activated it, it’s more like she tried to take someone else’s Uber and stick them with the bill.

I wonder how many people she lied about in the past and tormented. She tried to bully these guys but they stayed calm and cool and called out her nonsense, and most importantly got video of the situation. Even with a video there are still people trying to say she didn’t do anything wrong. She’s lucky there weren’t any marines around feeling threatened by her yelling, touching people, and swiping their phones.


I don’t see actual proof of any of this because of the editing, is the thing.
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Anonymous wrote:I watched the video and I have no idea what I just saw. I’m so confused by everyone else’s confidence.


Have you ever used citibike before?

A lot of posters seem confused about the situation, and I wonder if that’s because they’re not familiar with the app and haven’t done the bike share before. It seems like people defending her, saying maybe she was confused and thought it was her bike are definitely not familiar with it, or they’d realize that argument doesn’t hold water. She didn’t reserve it, she didn’t unlock it, she couldn’t possibly think it was hers.

For the poster who said it’s sort of like she tried to jump into a taxi someone else was waiting for, I’d say since he already activated it, it’s more like she tried to take someone else’s Uber and stick them with the bill.

I wonder how many people she lied about in the past and tormented. She tried to bully these guys but they stayed calm and cool and called out her nonsense, and most importantly got video of the situation. Even with a video there are still people trying to say she didn’t do anything wrong. She’s lucky there weren’t any marines around feeling threatened by her yelling, touching people, and swiping their phones.


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