A general note to clubs about tryouts

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Since you seem to know what the heck is going on, what's the point of the third, much-later tryout? I thought it was for, trying to fill in the last few spots on the bottom team. Have they made third team offers and gotten answers back already? Or is just a coincidence that the third tryout is so much later, and not really purposeful?

I'm not sure. You may be right. Was one of the earlier tryouts cancelled due to weather? If so it's probably a makeup. Or it could be that some current players missed a tryout or two and they want to do one more to confirm placements of current kids and new kids.

I don't know who has accepted third team offers in the age group I am familiar with. Some are not happy with their offer because they got moved down, or didn't move up when they thought they should have been. But I imagine that happens at any large club. Those kids are probably looking into other options if there are any tryouts still going on.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Is it true that the first team kids all got offers to stay on their teams before the tryouts started and that the tryouts actually aren't for any open spots on the first team?
I---naively--thought it was a real competition for all the teams (oldest kid what can i say).

That's what I heard from a friend who has a child on the first team. He got his return-to-the-team offer before the first tryout and so did other kids.

Well that's because their season IS the tryout. We had some flip flopping in our club- kids swapped from top to next team and vice versa. This was before any other offers went out.

Yes, this is what we were told. I feel bad for anyone whose coaches lead them to believe that tryouts are a chance to make a big move. If you kid is on the cusp of being moved up, you probably have some indication of that by being invited to guest play or practice sometimes with the higher team. If your kid never starts a game, isn't getting great feedback from the coach, and gets less playing time than others, then you're probably on the cusp of being moved down. Tryouts just help solidify what the coaches are thinking. They are constantly talking all season about who should be where.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Is it true that the first team kids all got offers to stay on their teams before the tryouts started and that the tryouts actually aren't for any open spots on the first team?
I---naively--thought it was a real competition for all the teams (oldest kid what can i say).

That's what I heard from a friend who has a child on the first team. He got his return-to-the-team offer before the first tryout and so did other kids.

Well that's because their season IS the tryout. We had some flip flopping in our club- kids swapped from top to next team and vice versa. This was before any other offers went out.

Yes, this is what we were told. I feel bad for anyone whose coaches lead them to believe that tryouts are a chance to make a big move. If you kid is on the cusp of being moved up, you probably have some indication of that by being invited to guest play or practice sometimes with the higher team. If your kid never starts a game, isn't getting great feedback from the coach, and gets less playing time than others, then you're probably on the cusp of being moved down. Tryouts just help solidify what the coaches are thinking. They are constantly talking all season about who should be where.

It's pretty obvious. Why would a one or two time scrimmage tryout be the time to show your stuff instead of a real game when it counts? Anyone can have a good tryout.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Is it true that the first team kids all got offers to stay on their teams before the tryouts started and that the tryouts actually aren't for any open spots on the first team?
I---naively--thought it was a real competition for all the teams (oldest kid what can i say).

That's what I heard from a friend who has a child on the first team. He got his return-to-the-team offer before the first tryout and so did other kids.

Well that's because their season IS the tryout. We had some flip flopping in our club- kids swapped from top to next team and vice versa. This was before any other offers went out.

Yes, this is what we were told. I feel bad for anyone whose coaches lead them to believe that tryouts are a chance to make a big move. If you kid is on the cusp of being moved up, you probably have some indication of that by being invited to guest play or practice sometimes with the higher team. If your kid never starts a game, isn't getting great feedback from the coach, and gets less playing time than others, then you're probably on the cusp of being moved down. Tryouts just help solidify what the coaches are thinking. They are constantly talking all season about who should be where.

It's pretty obvious. Why would a one or two time scrimmage tryout be the time to show your stuff instead of a real game when it counts? Anyone can have a good tryout.

I think people whose kids are trying out coming from a rec league don't know that the clubs are basically only running tryouts to fill a few spots on the lowest team. So they are surprised to hear from parents at the tryout that the two first teams were "full" before the tryouts even began. It would be more honest to just call the tryouts "Third/Fourth/Fifth team tryouts".

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Anonymous wrote:We were told by a friend with a kid on the Pallor third team that before tryouts started, the kids on that team were told they were all guaranteed their third team spots back but they would be considered for second team if they did great at tryouts. Not really sure where that leaves offers for kids trying out who aren't already on one of the many teams.

I think it's really hard to break in, especially if it's not a year where the rosters get larger. You have to really impress the coaches. It's the reason people reach out before tryouts and ask to attend practices. That gives the coaches more to work with than just the tryouts.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Is it true that the first team kids all got offers to stay on their teams before the tryouts started and that the tryouts actually aren't for any open spots on the first team?
I---naively--thought it was a real competition for all the teams (oldest kid what can i say).

That's what I heard from a friend who has a child on the first team. He got his return-to-the-team offer before the first tryout and so did other kids.

Well that's because their season IS the tryout. We had some flip flopping in our club- kids swapped from top to next team and vice versa. This was before any other offers went out.

Yes, this is what we were told. I feel bad for anyone whose coaches lead them to believe that tryouts are a chance to make a big move. If you kid is on the cusp of being moved up, you probably have some indication of that by being invited to guest play or practice sometimes with the higher team. If your kid never starts a game, isn't getting great feedback from the coach, and gets less playing time than others, then you're probably on the cusp of being moved down. Tryouts just help solidify what the coaches are thinking. They are constantly talking all season about who should be where.

It's pretty obvious. Why would a one or two time scrimmage tryout be the time to show your stuff instead of a real game when it counts? Anyone can have a good tryout.

I think people whose kids are trying out coming from a rec league don't know that the clubs are basically only running tryouts to fill a few spots on the lowest team. So they are surprised to hear from parents at the tryout that the two first teams were "full" before the tryouts even began. It would be more honest to just call the tryouts "Third/Fourth/Fifth team tryouts".

NP. I have a kid who tried out from a rec league and this is absolutely not a surprise. I would expect kids already on the team to be moving up as they improve and they would be the ones filling in open spots on the team above them, and the mass public tryout is needed to fill in the lower spots they vacated as they moved up. I would be surprised and concerned if it didn't work that way honestly.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Is it true that the first team kids all got offers to stay on their teams before the tryouts started and that the tryouts actually aren't for any open spots on the first team?
I---naively--thought it was a real competition for all the teams (oldest kid what can i say).

That's what I heard from a friend who has a child on the first team. He got his return-to-the-team offer before the first tryout and so did other kids.

Well that's because their season IS the tryout. We had some flip flopping in our club- kids swapped from top to next team and vice versa. This was before any other offers went out.

Yes, this is what we were told. I feel bad for anyone whose coaches lead them to believe that tryouts are a chance to make a big move. If you kid is on the cusp of being moved up, you probably have some indication of that by being invited to guest play or practice sometimes with the higher team. If your kid never starts a game, isn't getting great feedback from the coach, and gets less playing time than others, then you're probably on the cusp of being moved down. Tryouts just help solidify what the coaches are thinking. They are constantly talking all season about who should be where.

It's pretty obvious. Why would a one or two time scrimmage tryout be the time to show your stuff instead of a real game when it counts? Anyone can have a good tryout.

I think people whose kids are trying out coming from a rec league don't know that the clubs are basically only running tryouts to fill a few spots on the lowest team. So they are surprised to hear from parents at the tryout that the two first teams were "full" before the tryouts even began. It would be more honest to just call the tryouts "Third/Fourth/Fifth team tryouts".

The tryouts do feel like a bait and switch if you don't understand that the number one priority is profit and that they aren't true "tryouts" the way parents think of tryouts. People are better off going to smaller organizations than being a paying cog on the fifth team.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Is it true that the first team kids all got offers to stay on their teams before the tryouts started and that the tryouts actually aren't for any open spots on the first team?
I---naively--thought it was a real competition for all the teams (oldest kid what can i say).

That's what I heard from a friend who has a child on the first team. He got his return-to-the-team offer before the first tryout and so did other kids.

Well that's because their season IS the tryout. We had some flip flopping in our club- kids swapped from top to next team and vice versa. This was before any other offers went out.

Yes, this is what we were told. I feel bad for anyone whose coaches lead them to believe that tryouts are a chance to make a big move. If you kid is on the cusp of being moved up, you probably have some indication of that by being invited to guest play or practice sometimes with the higher team. If your kid never starts a game, isn't getting great feedback from the coach, and gets less playing time than others, then you're probably on the cusp of being moved down. Tryouts just help solidify what the coaches are thinking. They are constantly talking all season about who should be where.

It's pretty obvious. Why would a one or two time scrimmage tryout be the time to show your stuff instead of a real game when it counts? Anyone can have a good tryout.

I think people whose kids are trying out coming from a rec league don't know that the clubs are basically only running tryouts to fill a few spots on the lowest team. So they are surprised to hear from parents at the tryout that the two first teams were "full" before the tryouts even began. It would be more honest to just call the tryouts "Third/Fourth/Fifth team tryouts".

It would be unusual for a kid from rec to fill a top team.
If you are good, you are contacting the team months before tryouts and invited to the team practices to see if you're a good fit.
Travel teams do need to fill spots on higher teams as we all know people switch clubs, but its not a random rec kid at a tryout.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Is it true that the first team kids all got offers to stay on their teams before the tryouts started and that the tryouts actually aren't for any open spots on the first team?
I---naively--thought it was a real competition for all the teams (oldest kid what can i say).

That's what I heard from a friend who has a child on the first team. He got his return-to-the-team offer before the first tryout and so did other kids.

Well that's because their season IS the tryout. We had some flip flopping in our club- kids swapped from top to next team and vice versa. This was before any other offers went out.

Yes, this is what we were told. I feel bad for anyone whose coaches lead them to believe that tryouts are a chance to make a big move. If you kid is on the cusp of being moved up, you probably have some indication of that by being invited to guest play or practice sometimes with the higher team. If your kid never starts a game, isn't getting great feedback from the coach, and gets less playing time than others, then you're probably on the cusp of being moved down. Tryouts just help solidify what the coaches are thinking. They are constantly talking all season about who should be where.

It's pretty obvious. Why would a one or two time scrimmage tryout be the time to show your stuff instead of a real game when it counts? Anyone can have a good tryout.

I think people whose kids are trying out coming from a rec league don't know that the clubs are basically only running tryouts to fill a few spots on the lowest team. So they are surprised to hear from parents at the tryout that the two first teams were "full" before the tryouts even began. It would be more honest to just call the tryouts "Third/Fourth/Fifth team tryouts".

NP. I have a kid who tried out from a rec league and this is absolutely not a surprise. I would expect kids already on the team to be moving up as they improve and they would be the ones filling in open spots on the team above them, and the mass public tryout is needed to fill in the lower spots they vacated as they moved up. I would be surprised and concerned if it didn't work that way honestly.

We have kids every season leave house soccer and some go to join the best teams at travel clubs, some the lowest teams. Why would you think a kid would have to work their way up? There are many talented players in house league and many weak players on the lower travel teams. A kid who is a weak player in tryouts last year isn't magically going to be amazing the next year. Kids' progress is slow, especially less athletic kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Is it true that the first team kids all got offers to stay on their teams before the tryouts started and that the tryouts actually aren't for any open spots on the first team?
I---naively--thought it was a real competition for all the teams (oldest kid what can i say).

That's what I heard from a friend who has a child on the first team. He got his return-to-the-team offer before the first tryout and so did other kids.

Well that's because their season IS the tryout. We had some flip flopping in our club- kids swapped from top to next team and vice versa. This was before any other offers went out.

Yes, this is what we were told. I feel bad for anyone whose coaches lead them to believe that tryouts are a chance to make a big move. If you kid is on the cusp of being moved up, you probably have some indication of that by being invited to guest play or practice sometimes with the higher team. If your kid never starts a game, isn't getting great feedback from the coach, and gets less playing time than others, then you're probably on the cusp of being moved down. Tryouts just help solidify what the coaches are thinking. They are constantly talking all season about who should be where.

It's pretty obvious. Why would a one or two time scrimmage tryout be the time to show your stuff instead of a real game when it counts? Anyone can have a good tryout.

I think people whose kids are trying out coming from a rec league don't know that the clubs are basically only running tryouts to fill a few spots on the lowest team. So they are surprised to hear from parents at the tryout that the two first teams were "full" before the tryouts even began. It would be more honest to just call the tryouts "Third/Fourth/Fifth team tryouts".

It would be unusual for a kid from rec to fill a top team.
If you are good, you are contacting the team months before tryouts and invited to the team practices to see if you're a good fit.
Travel teams do need to fill spots on higher teams as we all know people switch clubs, but its not a random rec kid at a tryout.

People whose kids play house league don't know this secret LOL. Especially a lot of families who are ESOL. They bring their awesome player to the tryout and expect them to be fairly evaluated.

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If its one of the large clubs, the third, very late tryout is to try to sweep up all the rejected players from other clubs to get people to pay for being on the 4th, 5th, 6th team.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Is it true that the first team kids all got offers to stay on their teams before the tryouts started and that the tryouts actually aren't for any open spots on the first team?
I---naively--thought it was a real competition for all the teams (oldest kid what can i say).

That's what I heard from a friend who has a child on the first team. He got his return-to-the-team offer before the first tryout and so did other kids.

Well that's because their season IS the tryout. We had some flip flopping in our club- kids swapped from top to next team and vice versa. This was before any other offers went out.

Yes, this is what we were told. I feel bad for anyone whose coaches lead them to believe that tryouts are a chance to make a big move. If you kid is on the cusp of being moved up, you probably have some indication of that by being invited to guest play or practice sometimes with the higher team. If your kid never starts a game, isn't getting great feedback from the coach, and gets less playing time than others, then you're probably on the cusp of being moved down. Tryouts just help solidify what the coaches are thinking. They are constantly talking all season about who should be where.

It's pretty obvious. Why would a one or two time scrimmage tryout be the time to show your stuff instead of a real game when it counts? Anyone can have a good tryout.

It probably varies by sport, but the A team coach may have never even seen the B team play and they may never practice together. I've had kids on teams where you never see the other teams at the same age level

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Another hijacked thread.
Soccer parents... go back to your SOCCER forum!

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Is it true that the first team kids all got offers to stay on their teams before the tryouts started and that the tryouts actually aren't for any open spots on the first team?
I---naively--thought it was a real competition for all the teams (oldest kid what can i say).

That's what I heard from a friend who has a child on the first team. He got his return-to-the-team offer before the first tryout and so did other kids.

Well that's because their season IS the tryout. We had some flip flopping in our club- kids swapped from top to next team and vice versa. This was before any other offers went out.

Yes, this is what we were told. I feel bad for anyone whose coaches lead them to believe that tryouts are a chance to make a big move. If you kid is on the cusp of being moved up, you probably have some indication of that by being invited to guest play or practice sometimes with the higher team. If your kid never starts a game, isn't getting great feedback from the coach, and gets less playing time than others, then you're probably on the cusp of being moved down. Tryouts just help solidify what the coaches are thinking. They are constantly talking all season about who should be where.

It's pretty obvious. Why would a one or two time scrimmage tryout be the time to show your stuff instead of a real game when it counts? Anyone can have a good tryout.

I think people whose kids are trying out coming from a rec league don't know that the clubs are basically only running tryouts to fill a few spots on the lowest team. So they are surprised to hear from parents at the tryout that the two first teams were "full" before the tryouts even began. It would be more honest to just call the tryouts "Third/Fourth/Fifth team tryouts".

It would be unusual for a kid from rec to fill a top team.
If you are good, you are contacting the team months before tryouts and invited to the team practices to see if you're a good fit.
Travel teams do need to fill spots on higher teams as we all know people switch clubs, but its not a random rec kid at a tryout.

People whose kids play house league don't know this secret LOL. Especially a lot of families who are ESOL. They bring their awesome player to the tryout and expect them to be fairly evaluated.

Coaches who want to win will happily take the ESOL kid and give them a scholarship if they are that much better.

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Anonymous wrote:Another hijacked thread.
Soccer parents... go back to your SOCCER forum!

This applies to all sport. Lots of sports have tryouts. And fake tryouts.