A general note to clubs about tryouts

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Since you seem to know what the heck is going on, what's the point of the third, much-later tryout? I thought it was for, trying to fill in the last few spots on the bottom team. Have they made third team offers and gotten answers back already? Or is just a coincidence that the third tryout is so much later, and not really purposeful?

Not PP, but our club does it as a last ditch attempt to fill out teams. It's heavily marketed towards rec players

My friends daughters play rec for a club that is associated with Pallor. They send rec girls emails in the summer begging them to come try out for their lowest teams. They take as many paying people as they have and end up with weird numbers like 3.5 rosters and then try to fill out the last team roster with any warm body with a Visa. Then the team loses every game.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

This is fascinating to me. So a parent whose kid, let's call him Bencher, is on the white team last year...the other parents are saying, my Larlo got an offer to be on the white team again! But Bencher's parents could still have not heard anything? So Bencher's parents know he is on the bubble and maybe won't get an offer to stay on his same team?

It could also mean that little bencher may have a chance at the team above the white team, but that team has people sitting on offers and larlo was clearly white team not team above white team

And our experience they handle the team above first before they get offers to the team below.

So every spot on the first team will be filled before they start making any offers to the second team? This makes sense if you are actually trying to fairly allocate the players between teams. But the bigger clubs are Money Making Machines first, and they don't want to lose their second team customers to another club while they wait around for offers.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Is it true that the first team kids all got offers to stay on their teams before the tryouts started and that the tryouts actually aren't for any open spots on the first team?
I---naively--thought it was a real competition for all the teams (oldest kid what can i say).

That's what I heard from a friend who has a child on the first team. He got his return-to-the-team offer before the first tryout and so did other kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Is it true that the first team kids all got offers to stay on their teams before the tryouts started and that the tryouts actually aren't for any open spots on the first team?
I---naively--thought it was a real competition for all the teams (oldest kid what can i say).

In my experience, yes, existing team often gets offers first.

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We were told by a friend with a kid on the Pallor third team that before tryouts started, the kids on that team were told they were all guaranteed their third team spots back but they would be considered for second team if they did great at tryouts. Not really sure where that leaves offers for kids trying out who aren't already on one of the many teams.

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Is it standard to let you know if your kid doesn't make a team, or do you just never hear anything?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it standard to let you know if your kid doesn't make a team, or do you just never hear anything?

It depends on the club. Some are really good about it. One team sent us an autogenerated e-mail a few months later.

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Anonymous wrote:We were told by a friend with a kid on the Pallor third team that before tryouts started, the kids on that team were told they were all guaranteed their third team spots back but they would be considered for second team if they did great at tryouts. Not really sure where that leaves offers for kids trying out who aren't already on one of the many teams.

When you have a whole team of suckers on a hook paying that much for a glorified rec team, you don't risk losing them to the competition's glorified rec team.

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In the club we are trying out for (soccer, girls), it does seem like the vast majority of the first team girls will be returning and already know it BUT the roster expands next year for this age group so the coaches are looking closely at new girls and existing second team players for the very few open spots.

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Anonymous wrote:We were told by a friend with a kid on the Pallor third team that before tryouts started, the kids on that team were told they were all guaranteed their third team spots back but they would be considered for second team if they did great at tryouts. Not really sure where that leaves offers for kids trying out who aren't already on one of the many teams.

When you have a whole team of suckers on a hook paying that much for a glorified rec team, you don't risk losing them to the competition's glorified rec team.

This previous post was just mean and unnecessary. There are a lot of parents who just aren’t educated about this stuff and just follow what everyone does because it’s their first time.

But also, a lot of families pay to be on 3rd, 4th teams, etc. for logistical reasons such as having multiple kids in the club and that just makes schedules easier.

Some of these clubs are run well and there is predictability with regards to tournaments, payments, game schedules, etc. Smaller clubs can be all over the place with stuff like that.

Also, kids have friends in these teams and if that helps a kid continue to leisurely play a sport and get regular movement, that’s a great reason too.

Many of us are dual working families and it’s good to have choices that fit in well with the family, whether coordinating other activities, locations, commutes, etc.

I doubt if parents with kids on the lower teams have any grandiose ideas of their kids competitiveness. I recall my kid played a team that was terrible and clearly in the wrong division. They had been annihilated at every game and we were playing them towards the end of the season. Yet those kids still showed up and played as best they could and their parents also showed up and were all very supportive the entire game!

So good luck to parents out there! I know you’re doing the best you can for your kids and families.

And for those who truly have talented, motivated and competitive kids, now you know to get those practices in with the kids target teams well before tryouts.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

This is fascinating to me. So a parent whose kid, let's call him Bencher, is on the white team last year...the other parents are saying, my Larlo got an offer to be on the white team again! But Bencher's parents could still have not heard anything? So Bencher's parents know he is on the bubble and maybe won't get an offer to stay on his same team?

It could also mean that little bencher may have a chance at the team above the white team, but that team has people sitting on offers and larlo was clearly white team not team above white team

And our experience they handle the team above first before they get offers to the team below.

So every spot on the first team will be filled before they start making any offers to the second team? This makes sense if you are actually trying to fairly allocate the players between teams. But the bigger clubs are Money Making Machines first, and they don't want to lose their second team customers to another club while they wait around for offers.

Yes- that way they know if they have slots to move current kids up or need to keep talking with good outside kids. I am talking about one of the bigger clubs. It doesn't make sense to send offers at all levels at the same time - clubs can get screwed if there's a mass exodus.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

Is it true that the first team kids all got offers to stay on their teams before the tryouts started and that the tryouts actually aren't for any open spots on the first team?
I---naively--thought it was a real competition for all the teams (oldest kid what can i say).

That's what I heard from a friend who has a child on the first team. He got his return-to-the-team offer before the first tryout and so did other kids.

Well that's because their season IS the tryout. We had some flip flopping in our club- kids swapped from top to next team and vice versa. This was before any other offers went out.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it standard to let you know if your kid doesn't make a team, or do you just never hear anything?

From experience, Arlington and McLean send out emails to everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it standard to let you know if your kid doesn't make a team, or do you just never hear anything?

It depends on the club. Some are really good about it. One team sent us an autogenerated e-mail a few months later.

That’s pretty egregious

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Anonymous wrote:Question: my child tried out for a sports club that rhymes with "Pallor" that had three teams already. They had two tryouts last week and a third one much later (this Saturday). We were told that the first team received their offers before tryouts began and the tryouts were actually just for the lower teams and that was standard for "Pallor".

At what point should we assume our child has not made the second team? We wouldn't pay $4k for the third or possible fourth team. Or if the offer for the second team hasn't come yet, is it safe to assume our child was a last pick and won't play much?

And another question, do they wait to make offers until after the third tryout? Why is the third tryout so much later in time than the first two?

This little subthread is making me LOL. I can only speak to what's going on in one of the age groups. There have been multiple rounds of offers. Some kids got offers early to stay on their same teams, at least for the first and second teams. But not all kids on those teams got offers at the same time because some were apparently on the bubble to move up or down. Then another round of offers went out to kids on the bubble confirming their placements, as well as kids placed on the third team.

I don't know how many new kids have gotten offers. But I would not expect a second team offer to be coming if you haven't yet heard anything.

This is fascinating to me. So a parent whose kid, let's call him Bencher, is on the white team last year...the other parents are saying, my Larlo got an offer to be on the white team again! But Bencher's parents could still have not heard anything? So Bencher's parents know he is on the bubble and maybe won't get an offer to stay on his same team?

Yes this is what happened and it went different ways for different kids. I try to stay out of those conversations because it's super awkward if you don't know who got an offer and who didn't.