AAP Results 2023

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just don't get all this fuss over this. If you didn't get the result you want just get a private diagnosis and appeal, it works like a charm.

Private diagnose of what? You think any MD would risk their professional career by just write the diagnosis you asked??

Ignore this poster. He/she tries to derail every AAP conversation with their lies. They've really changed the tenor of the usefulness of this board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much are iReady scores used to determine AAP acceptance?

NNAT: 135
COGAT: 120
No idea about the GRBS
Not in for Stratford Landing. Sort of surprised but daughters iReady scores aren’t very good. Tests and work samples are all great. She was in pool. Not parent referral.

Those scores are on the low side. Sorry to say.

Lots of kids used to get in without being in pool. I don’t know how it is now.

Pp here - yes definitely but this thread highlights scores that are equal or lower and they are in. See previous poster.

Those who get in with lower scores are generally applying from Title One schools. If you aren't coming from a high-poverty school, a CogAT of 120 is likely too low for admittance--even with the much higher NNAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much are iReady scores used to determine AAP acceptance?

NNAT: 135
COGAT: 120
No idea about the GRBS
Not in for Stratford Landing. Sort of surprised but daughters iReady scores aren’t very good. Tests and work samples are all great. She was in pool. Not parent referral.

Those scores are on the low side. Sorry to say.

Lots of kids used to get in without being in pool. I don’t know how it is now.

Pp here - yes definitely but this thread highlights scores that are equal or lower and they are in. See previous poster.

Those who get in with lower scores are generally applying from Title One schools. If you aren't coming from a high-poverty school, a CogAT of 120 is likely too low for admittance--even with the much higher NNAT.

A CogAT of 120 or even 115 is not "too low for admittance," providing that it's accompanied by a stellar GBRS and great work samples. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS was by far the most significant metric for getting admitted to AAP. If your child's teacher and school strongly support AAP admissions, your child will get in even with poor test scores. If they don't support admission, your child likely won't get in even with extremely high test scores. GBRS is king.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much are iReady scores used to determine AAP acceptance?

NNAT: 135
COGAT: 120
No idea about the GRBS
Not in for Stratford Landing. Sort of surprised but daughters iReady scores aren’t very good. Tests and work samples are all great. She was in pool. Not parent referral.

Those scores are on the low side. Sorry to say.

Lots of kids used to get in without being in pool. I don’t know how it is now.

Pp here - yes definitely but this thread highlights scores that are equal or lower and they are in. See previous poster.

Those who get in with lower scores are generally applying from Title One schools. If you aren't coming from a high-poverty school, a CogAT of 120 is likely too low for admittance--even with the much higher NNAT.

A CogAT of 120 or even 115 is not "too low for admittance," providing that it's accompanied by a stellar GBRS and great work samples. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS was by far the most significant metric for getting admitted to AAP. If your child's teacher and school strongly support AAP admissions, your child will get in even with poor test scores. If they don't support admission, your child likely won't get in even with extremely high test scores. GBRS is king.

It should be disqualifying for third grade entry. A 115 paired with a great GBRS just means room mom and brown noser. If you kid really needs it, have them apply next year with great SOLs to counterbalance the COGATs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is GBRS?

NP. It's the Gifted Behavior Rating Scale. Teachers complete it for students who are either in pool or referred. It's a huge crock, completely subjective and in no way predictive of whether a kid will do well in AAP. I don't have a dog in this fight anymore because my oldest is about to be done with the program and entering high school in the fall but I can't believe FCPS gets away with using this as a screening tool.

How do you find out your child's GBRS score? My daughter got in and I'd like to contribute to this thread to help provide our context.

Thanks

Ask your AART for your child's packet.

If your child got in, please don't bother your AART for their packet, just so you can post on DCUM. The AART is going to be flooded with messages from disappointed parents asking for information about appeals. They don't need to extra work right now.

Ask for the packet. Our DS was accepted but we got the packet any way. It was an interesting read and gave us a far better understanding of what the school was seeing in him and what his strengths and weaknesses are. it is the only individualized report for him that we have really seen. Report cards are generic and tell you nothing. Parent teacher conference might be 15 minutes if you are lucky.

It doesn’t take that long for them to photocopy or print out the report.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much are iReady scores used to determine AAP acceptance?

NNAT: 135
COGAT: 120
No idea about the GRBS
Not in for Stratford Landing. Sort of surprised but daughters iReady scores aren’t very good. Tests and work samples are all great. She was in pool. Not parent referral.

Those scores are on the low side. Sorry to say.

Lots of kids used to get in without being in pool. I don’t know how it is now.

Pp here - yes definitely but this thread highlights scores that are equal or lower and they are in. See previous poster.

Those who get in with lower scores are generally applying from Title One schools. If you aren't coming from a high-poverty school, a CogAT of 120 is likely too low for admittance--even with the much higher NNAT.

A CogAT of 120 or even 115 is not "too low for admittance," providing that it's accompanied by a stellar GBRS and great work samples. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS was by far the most significant metric for getting admitted to AAP. If your child's teacher and school strongly support AAP admissions, your child will get in even with poor test scores. If they don't support admission, your child likely won't get in even with extremely high test scores. GBRS is king.

It should be disqualifying for third grade entry. A 115 paired with a great GBRS just means room mom and brown noser. If you kid really needs it, have them apply next year with great SOLs to counterbalance the COGATs

"Should be" and "Is" are two different things. A kid with a CogAT > 140 should be in regardless of the GBRS. The reality is that they will likely get rejected with a low GBRS. Likewise, a kid with a 115 CogAT shouldn't get in without some extraordinary circumstances. But kids like that often get in when the GBRS is stellar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much are iReady scores used to determine AAP acceptance?

NNAT: 135
COGAT: 120
No idea about the GRBS
Not in for Stratford Landing. Sort of surprised but daughters iReady scores aren’t very good. Tests and work samples are all great. She was in pool. Not parent referral.

Those scores are on the low side. Sorry to say.

Lots of kids used to get in without being in pool. I don’t know how it is now.

Pp here - yes definitely but this thread highlights scores that are equal or lower and they are in. See previous poster.

Those who get in with lower scores are generally applying from Title One schools. If you aren't coming from a high-poverty school, a CogAT of 120 is likely too low for admittance--even with the much higher NNAT.

A CogAT of 120 or even 115 is not "too low for admittance," providing that it's accompanied by a stellar GBRS and great work samples. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS was by far the most significant metric for getting admitted to AAP. If your child's teacher and school strongly support AAP admissions, your child will get in even with poor test scores. If they don't support admission, your child likely won't get in even with extremely high test scores. GBRS is king.

It should be disqualifying for third grade entry. A 115 paired with a great GBRS just means room mom and brown noser. If you kid really needs it, have them apply next year with great SOLs to counterbalance the COGATs

"Should be" and "Is" are two different things. A kid with a CogAT > 140 should be in regardless of the GBRS. The reality is that they will likely get rejected with a low GBRS. Likewise, a kid with a 115 CogAT shouldn't get in without some extraordinary circumstances. But kids like that often get in when the GBRS is stellar.

My kid had a cogat somewhere in the low 130s and perfect GBRS and didn't get in. She did the next year with similar GBRS and perfect SOLs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much are iReady scores used to determine AAP acceptance?

NNAT: 135
COGAT: 120
No idea about the GRBS
Not in for Stratford Landing. Sort of surprised but daughters iReady scores aren’t very good. Tests and work samples are all great. She was in pool. Not parent referral.

Those scores are on the low side. Sorry to say.

Lots of kids used to get in without being in pool. I don’t know how it is now.

Pp here - yes definitely but this thread highlights scores that are equal or lower and they are in. See previous poster.

Those who get in with lower scores are generally applying from Title One schools. If you aren't coming from a high-poverty school, a CogAT of 120 is likely too low for admittance--even with the much higher NNAT.

A CogAT of 120 or even 115 is not "too low for admittance," providing that it's accompanied by a stellar GBRS and great work samples. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS was by far the most significant metric for getting admitted to AAP. If your child's teacher and school strongly support AAP admissions, your child will get in even with poor test scores. If they don't support admission, your child likely won't get in even with extremely high test scores. GBRS is king.

It should be disqualifying for third grade entry. A 115 paired with a great GBRS just means room mom and brown noser. If you kid really needs it, have them apply next year with great SOLs to counterbalance the COGATs

"Should be" and "Is" are two different things. A kid with a CogAT > 140 should be in regardless of the GBRS. The reality is that they will likely get rejected with a low GBRS. Likewise, a kid with a 115 CogAT shouldn't get in without some extraordinary circumstances. But kids like that often get in when the GBRS is stellar.

My kid had a cogat somewhere in the low 130s and perfect GBRS and didn't get in. She did the next year with similar GBRS and perfect SOLs.

Every year, there are some rejections that make no sense. Yours is one of those. Generally, though, mediocre test scores + very high GBRS = IN. I know tons of people who parent referred their kids with scores < 130, and their kids got in. My school's AART encourages everyone to parent refer kids who score 120+ on the CogAT and who are considered advanced in math and language arts. If the school puts together a strong packet, the test scores don't matter that much.

[Anonymous]

Current grade: 2nd
NNAT/CoGAT: 160/138
GBRS (if known): idk
School or center: McLean
In/not in: not in

[Anonymous]

NP. What are "perfect" SOLs? All pass advanced?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. What are "perfect" SOLs? All pass advanced?

DP. I'd assume 600s for all SOLs. It's not that high of a bar. My now high schooler who was rejected from AAP had 600s on half of her SOLs and 550-599 on the other half.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Current grade: 2nd
NNAT/CoGAT: 160/138
GBRS (if known): idk
School or center: McLean
In/not in: not in

I have noticed that McLean pyramid is much harder to get into due to the high SES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Current grade: 2nd
NNAT/CoGAT: 160/138
GBRS (if known): idk
School or center: McLean
In/not in: not in

I have noticed that McLean pyramid is much harder to get into due to the high SES.

What are the most competitive pyramids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much are iReady scores used to determine AAP acceptance?

NNAT: 135
COGAT: 120
No idea about the GRBS
Not in for Stratford Landing. Sort of surprised but daughters iReady scores aren’t very good. Tests and work samples are all great. She was in pool. Not parent referral.

Those scores are on the low side. Sorry to say.

Lots of kids used to get in without being in pool. I don’t know how it is now.

Pp here - yes definitely but this thread highlights scores that are equal or lower and they are in. See previous poster.

Those who get in with lower scores are generally applying from Title One schools. If you aren't coming from a high-poverty school, a CogAT of 120 is likely too low for admittance--even with the much higher NNAT.

A CogAT of 120 or even 115 is not "too low for admittance," providing that it's accompanied by a stellar GBRS and great work samples. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS was by far the most significant metric for getting admitted to AAP. If your child's teacher and school strongly support AAP admissions, your child will get in even with poor test scores. If they don't support admission, your child likely won't get in even with extremely high test scores. GBRS is king.

It should be disqualifying for third grade entry. A 115 paired with a great GBRS just means room mom and brown noser. If you kid really needs it, have them apply next year with great SOLs to counterbalance the COGATs

"Should be" and "Is" are two different things. A kid with a CogAT > 140 should be in regardless of the GBRS. The reality is that they will likely get rejected with a low GBRS. Likewise, a kid with a 115 CogAT shouldn't get in without some extraordinary circumstances. But kids like that often get in when the GBRS is stellar.

My kid had a cogat somewhere in the low 130s and perfect GBRS and didn't get in. She did the next year with similar GBRS and perfect SOLs.

Every year, there are some rejections that make no sense. Yours is one of those. Generally, though, mediocre test scores + very high GBRS = IN. I know tons of people who parent referred their kids with scores < 130, and their kids got in. My school's AART encourages everyone to parent refer kids who score 120+ on the CogAT and who are considered advanced in math and language arts. If the school puts together a strong packet, the test scores don't matter that much.

The last sentence is true.

One of my kids scored 116, I think, and the other 125, IIRC. Not T1, we’re not PTA or room parents. The AART encouraged us to refer one, the teacher referred the other.

I’d never call either one gifted, just bright, but both have done fine in L4. The school must have put together strong packets.

[Anonymous]

Current grade: 2
NNAT/CoGAT: 160/139
GBRS (if known): N/A
School or center: West Springfield pyramid
In/not in: not in