HS teacher not grading papers for two straight semesters. Does FCPS have a policy on this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So for open enrollment, students can sign up for whatever class they want in every subject? If they do poorly, can they be sent back to a lower level class?

Yes, they can sign up for any class. Get a D in math 7? Skip math 8 and take algebra in 8th grade! Get a D in algebra? Go to honors geometry!

No, I cannot force any child to drop the class, ever.

That’s completely ridiculous. Why is this allowed? My kid at a private school has to prove he can handle a higher level class by getting an A in the previous class. Either that or have high entrance test scores and even that may not guarantee he stays in the higher level class. He would still need an A to stay in that level the following year.

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Students can get B's....it's not failing nor does it mean they shouldn't be in honors

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish people would stop posting about late grading. It is clear in every single thread that teachers will not be changing anything, no matter what the effect on students. It's sad, but it's just how it is in FCPS.

FCPS parents live for opportunities to complain and whine Carry on

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

You have no idea what it’s like to work in a public school. I had to attend an IEP for a student after school last week that lasted 2 hours. I talked for less than one minute but was required to stay for the whole meeting.

You can’t as a teacher decide not to go to mandatory trainings. You can’t decide not to go to IEP meetings for students in special ed. There are “academy coaches” who give you more ridiculous work that is mandated. You have to document, document, document if you want to give a student an F that they are legitimately earning for not doing work, not coming to class, and/or failing tests then not taking advantage of help (you have to document when you plan to offer this help) and retakes. There is NOT a lot of autonomy when you are a teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

You have no idea what it’s like to work in a public school. I had to attend an IEP for a student after school last week that lasted 2 hours. I talked for less than one minute but was required to stay for the whole meeting.

You can’t as a teacher decide not to go to mandatory trainings. You can’t decide not to go to IEP meetings for students in special ed. There are “academy coaches” who give you more ridiculous work that is mandated. You have to document, document, document if you want to give a student an F that they are legitimately earning for not doing work, not coming to class, and/or failing tests then not taking advantage of help (you have to document when you plan to offer this help) and retakes. There is NOT a lot of autonomy when you are a teacher.

I work in another district and this would never be required since it is after contracted hours. What does your contract say about this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

You have no idea what it’s like to work in a public school. I had to attend an IEP for a student after school last week that lasted 2 hours. I talked for less than one minute but was required to stay for the whole meeting.

You can’t as a teacher decide not to go to mandatory trainings. You can’t decide not to go to IEP meetings for students in special ed. There are “academy coaches” who give you more ridiculous work that is mandated. You have to document, document, document if you want to give a student an F that they are legitimately earning for not doing work, not coming to class, and/or failing tests then not taking advantage of help (you have to document when you plan to offer this help) and retakes. There is NOT a lot of autonomy when you are a teacher.

A teacher upthread said she has stopped attending meetings specfically to regain her planning/grading time. Take a similar stand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

You have no idea what it’s like to work in a public school. I had to attend an IEP for a student after school last week that lasted 2 hours. I talked for less than one minute but was required to stay for the whole meeting.

You can’t as a teacher decide not to go to mandatory trainings. You can’t decide not to go to IEP meetings for students in special ed. There are “academy coaches” who give you more ridiculous work that is mandated. You have to document, document, document if you want to give a student an F that they are legitimately earning for not doing work, not coming to class, and/or failing tests then not taking advantage of help (you have to document when you plan to offer this help) and retakes. There is NOT a lot of autonomy when you are a teacher.

A teacher upthread said she has stopped attending meetings specfically to regain her planning/grading time. Take a similar stand.

You can keep posting this non-solution all you like. Just know that that’s what it is — a non-solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

You have no idea what it’s like to work in a public school. I had to attend an IEP for a student after school last week that lasted 2 hours. I talked for less than one minute but was required to stay for the whole meeting.

You can’t as a teacher decide not to go to mandatory trainings. You can’t decide not to go to IEP meetings for students in special ed. There are “academy coaches” who give you more ridiculous work that is mandated. You have to document, document, document if you want to give a student an F that they are legitimately earning for not doing work, not coming to class, and/or failing tests then not taking advantage of help (you have to document when you plan to offer this help) and retakes. There is NOT a lot of autonomy when you are a teacher.

A teacher upthread said she has stopped attending meetings specfically to regain her planning/grading time. Take a similar stand.

You can keep posting this non-solution all you like. Just know that that’s what it is — a non-solution.

Another teacher here. This absolutely is not the solution. The problem is I am in front of students 34 hours a week. I can’t grade then because I am actively teaching, so I have to do ALL my planning and grading after school hours. One essay takes over 25 hours to grade. One homework assignment may take 2 hours to grade. Revamping a lesson may take an hour, and I have to do that almost every night.

The solution, if we are looking for ways for me to find time, is to give me fewer classes. Maybe I could teach 25 and grade/plan for 15 a week? That would free up at least one day of my weekend, taking my job to a mere 6-day a week job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

Stop acting like you care about teachers you don't...you care about your kids and thats fine.... but please stop acting like you care about teachers and what they go through-these are not solutions this is entitled parents trying to get what they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. Your kid’s teacher is lazy and that’s unfortunate. Grading truly sucks and grading writing is time consuming and to provide feedback even more so. That being said, it’s part of the job so unacceptable not to do it. Unfortunately, many of the district policies have created a sense of “why try” among kids and staff. Staff know the kids have to pass no matter what, so do the kids. The result is this sense of “I can give hours and hours to grading and doing work or just pass them all anyway.” And on the kids end it looks like “they’re going to have to pass me anyway so why do the work.” We have a LOT of bad policies that have completely demotivated all stakeholders because the districts just want to cook their data. It sucks.

That is absolute BS. I don’t teach HS anymore but when I did, I worked 60/70 hour weeks. I was NOT lazy. But sometimes I didn’t have an extra 10 hours in the week to grade a set of written responses. The teacher is not (necessarily) lazy. It’s an impossible workload. And frankly, VERY few students pay any attention to feedback in their writing. If I have to prioritize, I focus on planning engaging lessons and activities, but marking up writing that most students don’t care about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

You have no idea what it’s like to work in a public school. I had to attend an IEP for a student after school last week that lasted 2 hours. I talked for less than one minute but was required to stay for the whole meeting.

You can’t as a teacher decide not to go to mandatory trainings. You can’t decide not to go to IEP meetings for students in special ed. There are “academy coaches” who give you more ridiculous work that is mandated. You have to document, document, document if you want to give a student an F that they are legitimately earning for not doing work, not coming to class, and/or failing tests then not taking advantage of help (you have to document when you plan to offer this help) and retakes. There is NOT a lot of autonomy when you are a teacher.

I work in another district and this would never be required since it is after contracted hours. What does your contract say about this?

Nothing. It all falls under “other assigned duties”. The principal can hold after school meetings, the county can require you to do curriculum night or back to school in the evenings, and special Ed can certainly require you to do meetings after hours. No pay for any of it. Hopefully this is something collective bargaining takes a stab at.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

Stop acting like you care about teachers you don't...you care about your kids and thats fine.... but please stop acting like you care about teachers and what they go through-these are not solutions this is entitled parents trying to get what they want.

If I need to choose between supporting my kid and teachers, guess who I'm picking? Because in this case, it seems to be an either/or scenario.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

Stop acting like you care about teachers you don't...you care about your kids and thats fine.... but please stop acting like you care about teachers and what they go through-these are not solutions this is entitled parents trying to get what they want.

If I need to choose between supporting my kid and teachers, guess who I'm picking? Because in this case, it seems to be an either/or scenario.

And why is that? Can’t we give teachers a more reasonable workload, which would mean they don’t have to give up their own health and time with their own families? Then they would have the time to focus on your child. Why do you feel you need to pick? Can’t everyone win?

-up at 4:30 to grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

Stop acting like you care about teachers you don't...you care about your kids and thats fine.... but please stop acting like you care about teachers and what they go through-these are not solutions this is entitled parents trying to get what they want.

If I need to choose between supporting my kid and teachers, guess who I'm picking? Because in this case, it seems to be an either/or scenario.

And why is that? Can’t we give teachers a more reasonable workload, which would mean they don’t have to give up their own health and time with their own families? Then they would have the time to focus on your child. Why do you feel you need to pick? Can’t everyone win?

-up at 4:30 to grade

I can’t give teachers a more reasonable workload. I am a parent. And if I have to choose between supporting my kid and a teacher, I’m choosing my
Kid.

Also, you’re on dcurbanmom at 4:30, not grading.