HS teacher not grading papers for two straight semesters. Does FCPS have a policy on this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

Stop acting like you care about teachers you don't...you care about your kids and thats fine.... but please stop acting like you care about teachers and what they go through-these are not solutions this is entitled parents trying to get what they want.

If I need to choose between supporting my kid and teachers, guess who I'm picking? Because in this case, it seems to be an either/or scenario.

And why is that? Can’t we give teachers a more reasonable workload, which would mean they don’t have to give up their own health and time with their own families? Then they would have the time to focus on your child. Why do you feel you need to pick? Can’t everyone win?

-up at 4:30 to grade

I can’t give teachers a more reasonable workload. I am a parent. And if I have to choose between supporting my kid and a teacher, I’m choosing my
Kid.

Also, you’re on dcurbanmom at 4:30, not grading.

You could be supportive instead of combative. That’s another choice you could make.

- it is perfectly acceptable for me to take a break from grading on my own time.

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Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

Stop acting like you care about teachers you don't...you care about your kids and thats fine.... but please stop acting like you care about teachers and what they go through-these are not solutions this is entitled parents trying to get what they want.

If I need to choose between supporting my kid and teachers, guess who I'm picking? Because in this case, it seems to be an either/or scenario.

And why is that? Can’t we give teachers a more reasonable workload, which would mean they don’t have to give up their own health and time with their own families? Then they would have the time to focus on your child. Why do you feel you need to pick? Can’t everyone win?

-up at 4:30 to grade

I can’t give teachers a more reasonable workload. I am a parent. And if I have to choose between supporting my kid and a teacher, I’m choosing my
Kid.

Also, you’re on dcurbanmom at 4:30, not grading.

Well, keep being selfish. Cool. Enjoy your kids’ cadre of rotating, unqualified subs who won’t be giving you the “feedback” you crave, I damn well assure you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

You have no idea what it’s like to work in a public school. I had to attend an IEP for a student after school last week that lasted 2 hours. I talked for less than one minute but was required to stay for the whole meeting.

You can’t as a teacher decide not to go to mandatory trainings. You can’t decide not to go to IEP meetings for students in special ed. There are “academy coaches” who give you more ridiculous work that is mandated. You have to document, document, document if you want to give a student an F that they are legitimately earning for not doing work, not coming to class, and/or failing tests then not taking advantage of help (you have to document when you plan to offer this help) and retakes. There is NOT a lot of autonomy when you are a teacher.

I work in another district and this would never be required since it is after contracted hours. What does your contract say about this?

Nothing. It all falls under “other assigned duties”. The principal can hold after school meetings, the county can require you to do curriculum night or back to school in the evenings, and special Ed can certainly require you to do meetings after hours. No pay for any of it. Hopefully this is something collective bargaining takes a stab at.

I wouldn’t go and point out my contracted hours. I have a second job after school to make ends meet so I couldn’t go anyway. I’d look for another district with a stronger union and better contract.

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Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

Stop acting like you care about teachers you don't...you care about your kids and thats fine.... but please stop acting like you care about teachers and what they go through-these are not solutions this is entitled parents trying to get what they want.

If I need to choose between supporting my kid and teachers, guess who I'm picking? Because in this case, it seems to be an either/or scenario.

And why is that? Can’t we give teachers a more reasonable workload, which would mean they don’t have to give up their own health and time with their own families? Then they would have the time to focus on your child. Why do you feel you need to pick? Can’t everyone win?

-up at 4:30 to grade

I can’t give teachers a more reasonable workload. I am a parent. And if I have to choose between supporting my kid and a teacher, I’m choosing my
Kid.

Also, you’re on dcurbanmom at 4:30, not grading.

You could be supportive instead of combative. That’s another choice you could make.

- it is perfectly acceptable for me to take a break from grading on my own time.

Combative (NP here)? Please read your own posts and those of some of the other teachers before you start hurling that label at parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

Stop acting like you care about teachers you don't...you care about your kids and thats fine.... but please stop acting like you care about teachers and what they go through-these are not solutions this is entitled parents trying to get what they want.

If I need to choose between supporting my kid and teachers, guess who I'm picking? Because in this case, it seems to be an either/or scenario.

And why is that? Can’t we give teachers a more reasonable workload, which would mean they don’t have to give up their own health and time with their own families? Then they would have the time to focus on your child. Why do you feel you need to pick? Can’t everyone win?

-up at 4:30 to grade

I can’t give teachers a more reasonable workload. I am a parent. And if I have to choose between supporting my kid and a teacher, I’m choosing my
Kid.

Also, you’re on dcurbanmom at 4:30, not grading.

Well, keep being selfish. Cool. Enjoy your kids’ cadre of rotating, unqualified subs who won’t be giving you the “feedback” you crave, I damn well assure you.

Look, we can get tutoring to fill the gaps you're leaving. Not everyone can. So your actions (failing to do your full job), in the end, won't hurt my kid. But, they are for those who aren't as lucky.

[Anonymous]

Not grading for 2 quarters would get a visit with the principal. End of story. And the principal at our school would listen.
Sorry/not sorry.

[Anonymous]

OP, it's time to land the chopper. Don't you have something better to do?

[Anonymous]

Is the teacher a sub? Maybe that’s why.

[Anonymous]

My DC told us some assignments are not graded… i

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

Stop acting like you care about teachers you don't...you care about your kids and thats fine.... but please stop acting like you care about teachers and what they go through-these are not solutions this is entitled parents trying to get what they want.

If I need to choose between supporting my kid and teachers, guess who I'm picking? Because in this case, it seems to be an either/or scenario.

And why is that? Can’t we give teachers a more reasonable workload, which would mean they don’t have to give up their own health and time with their own families? Then they would have the time to focus on your child. Why do you feel you need to pick? Can’t everyone win?

-up at 4:30 to grade

I can’t give teachers a more reasonable workload. I am a parent. And if I have to choose between supporting my kid and a teacher, I’m choosing my
Kid.

Also, you’re on dcurbanmom at 4:30, not grading.

You could be supportive instead of combative. That’s another choice you could make.

- it is perfectly acceptable for me to take a break from grading on my own time.

Combative (NP here)? Please read your own posts and those of some of the other teachers before you start hurling that label at parents.

If trying to highlight the demands of this job is considered “combative,” then there is no conversation to be had here. I did reread my posts. I haven’t complained, nor have I been combative.

It isn’t right that teachers present material for 33-35 hours a week, leaving 30 hours of background work to be done in our own time. No, it isn’t right.

We could all work together to change the profession, or we can get combative. One poster suggested I’m not doing my job since I struggle to get papers home. One stack of essays takes me over 30 hours. I try to get those back within 10 days, but I still have to teach, plan lessons, answer emails, grade other assignments, attend parent meetings, etc.

A parent can say, “we understand that it may take 10 days to do 30 hours of extra grading” or you can say “you aren’t doing your job.” It seems many posters would prefer #2.

Perhaps now I’m getting combative.

[Anonymous]

For the teachers who aren't grading essays, why are you assigning them then? You are just wasting students' time if you aren't going to provide them with feedback.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From FCPS’ own website —> https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments


Quizzes, tests, examinations, essays, homework, or papers are evaluated and/or graded, returned, and reviewed promptly with the student. Teachers are expected to grade each assignment and post grade to the electronic gradebook within seven school days after the due date with the understanding that major projects/papers may require additional time to ensure quality feedback. If more time is required to provide feedback, teachers will communicate notify students in advance of the project due date.

And this would be completely reasonable if they gave us at least some of the time needed to do this, without taking all our planning time away, not to mention requiring hours of extra work outside of work hours for b.s. duties and training that they keep adding on because people at Gatehouse need to justify their jobs by adding on initiatives and reporting requirements, and policies that let students off the hook and put the onus on teachers to somehow compensate for what students should do but are failing to do.

Don't do the other work. Do the grading. Tell them the truth: Because it directly and immediately supports kids. Dare them to fire you. They won't.

Stop acting like you care about teachers you don't...you care about your kids and thats fine.... but please stop acting like you care about teachers and what they go through-these are not solutions this is entitled parents trying to get what they want.

If I need to choose between supporting my kid and teachers, guess who I'm picking? Because in this case, it seems to be an either/or scenario.

And why is that? Can’t we give teachers a more reasonable workload, which would mean they don’t have to give up their own health and time with their own families? Then they would have the time to focus on your child. Why do you feel you need to pick? Can’t everyone win?

-up at 4:30 to grade

I can’t give teachers a more reasonable workload. I am a parent. And if I have to choose between supporting my kid and a teacher, I’m choosing my
Kid.

Also, you’re on dcurbanmom at 4:30, not grading.

You could be supportive instead of combative. That’s another choice you could make.

- it is perfectly acceptable for me to take a break from grading on my own time.

Combative (NP here)? Please read your own posts and those of some of the other teachers before you start hurling that label at parents.

If trying to highlight the demands of this job is considered “combative,” then there is no conversation to be had here. I did reread my posts. I haven’t complained, nor have I been combative.

It isn’t right that teachers present material for 33-35 hours a week, leaving 30 hours of background work to be done in our own time. No, it isn’t right.

We could all work together to change the profession, or we can get combative. One poster suggested I’m not doing my job since I struggle to get papers home. One stack of essays takes me over 30 hours. I try to get those back within 10 days, but I still have to teach, plan lessons, answer emails, grade other assignments, attend parent meetings, etc.

A parent can say, “we understand that it may take 10 days to do 30 hours of extra grading” or you can say “you aren’t doing your job.” It seems many posters would prefer #2.

Perhaps now I’m getting combative.

I cannot change the profession. I have no way to do that. And before you continue to say "we can work together", lots of us have been: getting tutoring to fill the gap, teaching things ourselves where we can, not complaining to teacher or principal immediately (or in our case at all) when not getting 100% what we want. And let's be frank, advocating for our kid to get the full education that they are supposed to get is also not combative. . .

You're saying 10 days to do grading. Some are saying they don't do it at all, or don't provide the necessary feedback at all. There's a difference in those two spectrums.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the teachers who aren't grading essays, why are you assigning them then? You are just wasting students' time if you aren't going to provide them with feedback.

We are hiring, and if you want to grade esssys you can apply to work with FCPS

[Anonymous]

I spent a few hours this past weekend grading labs for a HS science honors class. Returned them to students today. Most immediately threw them in the recycling bin. They only care about the grade and don't even read my comments. Super motivating to spend all that time for the handful that care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I spent a few hours this past weekend grading labs for a HS science honors class. Returned them to students today. Most immediately threw them in the recycling bin. They only care about the grade and don't even read my comments. Super motivating to spend all that time for the handful that care.

But you graded them. That's all OP is asking for.