HS teacher not grading papers for two straight semesters. Does FCPS have a policy on this?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. Your kid’s teacher is lazy and that’s unfortunate. Grading truly sucks and grading writing is time consuming and to provide feedback even more so. That being said, it’s part of the job so unacceptable not to do it. Unfortunately, many of the district policies have created a sense of “why try” among kids and staff. Staff know the kids have to pass no matter what, so do the kids. The result is this sense of “I can give hours and hours to grading and doing work or just pass them all anyway.” And on the kids end it looks like “they’re going to have to pass me anyway so why do the work.” We have a LOT of bad policies that have completely demotivated all stakeholders because the districts just want to cook their data. It sucks.

That is absolute BS. I don’t teach HS anymore but when I did, I worked 60/70 hour weeks. I was NOT lazy. But sometimes I didn’t have an extra 10 hours in the week to grade a set of written responses. The teacher is not (necessarily) lazy. It’s an impossible workload. And frankly, VERY few students pay any attention to feedback in their writing. If I have to prioritize, I focus on planning engaging lessons and activities, but marking up writing that most students don’t care about.

It’s not BS. I do teach HS, and I teach writing. Having NO grades is unacceptable, as much as I hate grading too: you have to have grades. There are ways to reduce the time it takes to give feedback: chunk the writing, only give feedback for one specific element of the writing, do group revisions, etc, but you have to find a way to do it somehow and provide grades. I am not saying grade on the weekends (I don’t.) I’m saying no teacher should accept that having no grades in the gradebook is ok. If a teacher is teaching AP, they agreed to teach a higher level course that is writing heavy and dependent on preparing kids for a writing test. You need to be willing to do that if you CHOOSE to take on an AP course.

I try to manage my time by grading the kids’ writing and then offering the ones who want feedback to schedule a writing conference with me. This way I can truly focus on providing individual feedback to the kids who really want it and will use it instead of spending 10 hours giving it to everyone when all but maybe 5 will never even look at it or use it. So everyone gets a grade, the ones who truly want detailed feedback get it, and my time is spent in more effective ways.

Thank you for a reasonable explanation of how to handle a classroom and grade and being a reasonable teacher. No one wants teachers overloaded but at the same time don’t want to hear about them justifying not doing their job and being told to suck it up. Your ideas sound great and are what I’ve seen reasonable teachers implement. Keep up the great work and thank you for teaching students without taking out frustrations on children or parents. Will continue to advocate for reasonable work and class sizes for teachers that include grading.

Round of applause for this teacher (above)!

I'm not a teacer and the same poster who another teacher said she was sick to listen to. I'm sorry that teacher is irate at her situation, but she's just taking it out on the wrong people. As shown above reasonable teachers do exist and they get praise. It might be more at the poolside where parents are talking about great teachers or one on one to their face and not here where you can't name names, but it does exist.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. Your kid’s teacher is lazy and that’s unfortunate. Grading truly sucks and grading writing is time consuming and to provide feedback even more so. That being said, it’s part of the job so unacceptable not to do it. Unfortunately, many of the district policies have created a sense of “why try” among kids and staff. Staff know the kids have to pass no matter what, so do the kids. The result is this sense of “I can give hours and hours to grading and doing work or just pass them all anyway.” And on the kids end it looks like “they’re going to have to pass me anyway so why do the work.” We have a LOT of bad policies that have completely demotivated all stakeholders because the districts just want to cook their data. It sucks.

That is absolute BS. I don’t teach HS anymore but when I did, I worked 60/70 hour weeks. I was NOT lazy. But sometimes I didn’t have an extra 10 hours in the week to grade a set of written responses. The teacher is not (necessarily) lazy. It’s an impossible workload. And frankly, VERY few students pay any attention to feedback in their writing. If I have to prioritize, I focus on planning engaging lessons and activities, but marking up writing that most students don’t care about.

It’s not BS. I do teach HS, and I teach writing. Having NO grades is unacceptable, as much as I hate grading too: you have to have grades. There are ways to reduce the time it takes to give feedback: chunk the writing, only give feedback for one specific element of the writing, do group revisions, etc, but you have to find a way to do it somehow and provide grades. I am not saying grade on the weekends (I don’t.) I’m saying no teacher should accept that having no grades in the gradebook is ok. If a teacher is teaching AP, they agreed to teach a higher level course that is writing heavy and dependent on preparing kids for a writing test. You need to be willing to do that if you CHOOSE to take on an AP course.

I try to manage my time by grading the kids’ writing and then offering the ones who want feedback to schedule a writing conference with me. This way I can truly focus on providing individual feedback to the kids who really want it and will use it instead of spending 10 hours giving it to everyone when all but maybe 5 will never even look at it or use it. So everyone gets a grade, the ones who truly want detailed feedback get it, and my time is spent in more effective ways.

Thank you for this response. Reasonable teachers do exist.

Keep up that attitude and, well, not for long.

Thanking teachers for rational responses to difficult situations is a destructive attitude? ooooookay.....

[Anonymous]

We're outside NOVA (downstate) and our high schooler's grades are always up to date. The teachers all have 140+ students per day coming through their classes, so it's not that they have only a few students. Tests given on paper are posted next day, sometimes same day.

But I did notice in FCPS HS with our older child that the grading was quite often way behind. Our kid would warn us sometimes. IT did seem like FCPS was always behind on grading. Even in grade school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You sound like you hate it and I can’t imagine what you are like at work with kids and parents. Full of drama I guess. It’s weird that you harp on all this extra work you slave away at but then rationalize that somehow you will still be an excellent teacher if you drop grading and become teacher G or OPs child’s teacher. You may have the capacity but you won’t be an excellent teacher by doing that. It really isn’t an option at the high school level to not grade so you are just making unnecessary drama. You know OPs teacher is going against FCPS policy and not doing her job well but are throwing a tantrum about unrelated work to this discussion anyway to stir things up. You know you don’t have to do extra grading work because you have OPs teacher as an example of one that doesn’t grade and no repercussions. High schoolers need grades. Thank god for AP classes that have actual tests so teachers and school systems can’t just do whatever they want without getting national recognition through lowered scores.

If you are an English teacher, the state of Virginia actually limits those classes on average for the school to 1:20 because the grading is more intensive. If FCPS is not following that is on them.

Lol

I find this humorous, too.

Acknowledging there is a problem isn’t a “tantrum.” I have had classes over 30, so I’d love to know where this 1:20 is actually occurring.

You are justifying bad teaching and somehow equating working 20 hours to grade after school as being equal to a teacher who doesn’t grade at all. It’s an irrelevant rant to compare yourself to this teacher who doesn’t grade.

This post is filled with trolls. Or, as I suspect, just one replying to 90% of the posts.

I wish you Troll sniffers, and other internet sleuthes (eg., bringing up other posts and asking "is this you", etc.) would GTFOH and stop taking up space. A) it doesn't matter and B) you're not the admin. You're not adding anything and aren't half as clever as you think you are.

And what value did your post add?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of this really is the result of efforts to achieve equity, even before it was called equity, as represented by scores.

The retakes, the leveled instruction, the IEP meetings, disparate levels and unprepared kids who were pushed through, inability to provide meaningful discipline, IDEA, bahavioral issues related to electronic device culture.

All of this has basically taken the responsibility of the parents and foisted it onto the teachers.

Now not every parent can be as responsible to their kids as some others and therefore there will always be different outcomes, but if the expectation is that someone needs to account for those gaps and it’s not parents, then it’s teachers and here we are.

OMG, the OP asked about a teacher grading nothing for half a year. It's absurd to wait this long for corrections. They mean nothing by this time. Teachers have graded things and provided feedback. This has been figured out by other teachers before you. The fact that you keep giving excuses for this teacher is alarming.

An appeal from a burnt-out, ready-to-quit AP teacher here:

Nobody is making excuses for a teacher who hasn’t graded for 1/2 a year. Several posters have tried to explain what grading looks like for us. I am doing 20 hours of grading a week on top of a 40 hour work week. Every week. I’m home sick today, and I’m grading. I’m always grading. I went to my own kids’ concert last week and graded during the break between sets.

Perhaps if the angry parent on this thread could see that those of us grading are sacrificing hours of our own time DAILY to get comments back, we could get somewhere. Yes, I understand it’s my job… and I am doing it! Stop being nasty and just acknowledge that papers don’t grade themselves. And please don’t send me an email when I don’t get 150 in-class writing responses back within 48 hours. I can’t pause time to get it done.

You are not the first teacher to teach. Do you have any idea what it’s like going through a system for 13 years and hearing the same story excusing bad teaching? Why are you defending this teacher if you are spending so much time grading?

I’m the PP. I wrote “nobody is making excuses” and you interpreted that is “why are you defending this teacher.” It’s clear that you simply want to pick a fight. It looks like you got it. Satisfied? You have good teachers who are sacrificing tons of time with their own families to give you exactly what you want. We DO give back work. Regularly. We simply want you to see that all this work gets done on our own time; we are granted no time during our contract hours to get the bulk of the job done.

I’m within an inch of quitting. Nasty posters like you are not helping. I guarantee you that I AM the teacher you want your kid to have. Why chase me away with your nastiness?

No, I don't. You've posted on here all day. I don't even think you are a teacher in FCPS.

I’ve posted twice. It seems there are other teachers on here who would like to be treated with a small amount of respect.
And yes, I am a teacher, and I attended FCPS as a student. Can you try to be kind? What’s the point of picking on people who are on your side and trying to do the job you want us to do?

What is the point of supporting a teacher who doesn't grade? Why do you support this teacher if they are making teachers look bad?

NP: Because they are doing what I don't have the guts to do--make the job 40 hours so they have a life outside school. It isn't a case of "they could do it during the school day but are choosing other things". Arguably the three most critical parts of our job are teaching, lesson planning, and grading. Only 2 of those can be done in 40 hours. Which do you prefer I give up? Or are you saying the only good teachers are those that are willing to work 60 hours?

If more teachers don't learn how to draw a line, there will be an even greater educator shortage soon.

So now you are advocating for teachers to not grade? This is why people are fed up with FCPS. I think it comes with the territory that lesson planning, grading and teaching are part of the job. A job which also has a shortened day and many days off. You really think parents think sending their kids to a school system that teachers are protesting grading is worthwhile to their child’s development? No grades is not a solution to improving FCPS schools. People will just move if they can’t afford other options.

You've posted before and the reply was and still is BYE!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So this teacher is not following policy got it. Please keep the trauma grading stories to yourself. This teacher is doing none of it. Stop projecting your life onto hers as if you are one and the same and you will find more peace.

STOP judging something you have no idea about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We're outside NOVA (downstate) and our high schooler's grades are always up to date. The teachers all have 140+ students per day coming through their classes, so it's not that they have only a few students. Tests given on paper are posted next day, sometimes same day.

But I did notice in FCPS HS with our older child that the grading was quite often way behind. Our kid would warn us sometimes. IT did seem like FCPS was always behind on grading. Even in grade school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. Your kid’s teacher is lazy and that’s unfortunate. Grading truly sucks and grading writing is time consuming and to provide feedback even more so. That being said, it’s part of the job so unacceptable not to do it. Unfortunately, many of the district policies have created a sense of “why try” among kids and staff. Staff know the kids have to pass no matter what, so do the kids. The result is this sense of “I can give hours and hours to grading and doing work or just pass them all anyway.” And on the kids end it looks like “they’re going to have to pass me anyway so why do the work.” We have a LOT of bad policies that have completely demotivated all stakeholders because the districts just want to cook their data. It sucks.

That is absolute BS. I don’t teach HS anymore but when I did, I worked 60/70 hour weeks. I was NOT lazy. But sometimes I didn’t have an extra 10 hours in the week to grade a set of written responses. The teacher is not (necessarily) lazy. It’s an impossible workload. And frankly, VERY few students pay any attention to feedback in their writing. If I have to prioritize, I focus on planning engaging lessons and activities, but marking up writing that most students don’t care about.

It’s not BS. I do teach HS, and I teach writing. Having NO grades is unacceptable, as much as I hate grading too: you have to have grades. There are ways to reduce the time it takes to give feedback: chunk the writing, only give feedback for one specific element of the writing, do group revisions, etc, but you have to find a way to do it somehow and provide grades. I am not saying grade on the weekends (I don’t.) I’m saying no teacher should accept that having no grades in the gradebook is ok. If a teacher is teaching AP, they agreed to teach a higher level course that is writing heavy and dependent on preparing kids for a writing test. You need to be willing to do that if you CHOOSE to take on an AP course.

I try to manage my time by grading the kids’ writing and then offering the ones who want feedback to schedule a writing conference with me. This way I can truly focus on providing individual feedback to the kids who really want it and will use it instead of spending 10 hours giving it to everyone when all but maybe 5 will never even look at it or use it. So everyone gets a grade, the ones who truly want detailed feedback get it, and my time is spent in more effective ways.

Thank you for a reasonable explanation of how to handle a classroom and grade and being a reasonable teacher. No one wants teachers overloaded but at the same time don’t want to hear about them justifying not doing their job and being told to suck it up. Your ideas sound great and are what I’ve seen reasonable teachers implement. Keep up the great work and thank you for teaching students without taking out frustrations on children or parents. Will continue to advocate for reasonable work and class sizes for teachers that include grading.

Round of applause for this teacher (above)!

I'm not a teacer and the same poster who another teacher said she was sick to listen to. I'm sorry that teacher is irate at her situation, but she's just taking it out on the wrong people. As shown above reasonable teachers do exist and they get praise. It might be more at the poolside where parents are talking about great teachers or one on one to their face and not here where you can't name names, but it does exist.

No one wants your crappy praise they want to see it in their paycheck and they don't so save it.

[Anonymous]

We're outside NOVA (downstate) and our high schooler's grades are always up to date. The teachers all have 140+ students per day coming through their classes, so it's not that they have only a few students. Tests given on paper are posted next day, sometimes same day.

But I did notice in FCPS HS with our older child that the grading was quite often way behind. Our kid would warn us sometimes. IT did seem like FCPS was always behind on grading. Even in grade school.

Thank you pp. Your post has merit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You sound like you hate it and I can’t imagine what you are like at work with kids and parents. Full of drama I guess. It’s weird that you harp on all this extra work you slave away at but then rationalize that somehow you will still be an excellent teacher if you drop grading and become teacher G or OPs child’s teacher. You may have the capacity but you won’t be an excellent teacher by doing that. It really isn’t an option at the high school level to not grade so you are just making unnecessary drama. You know OPs teacher is going against FCPS policy and not doing her job well but are throwing a tantrum about unrelated work to this discussion anyway to stir things up. You know you don’t have to do extra grading work because you have OPs teacher as an example of one that doesn’t grade and no repercussions. High schoolers need grades. Thank god for AP classes that have actual tests so teachers and school systems can’t just do whatever they want without getting national recognition through lowered scores.

If you are an English teacher, the state of Virginia actually limits those classes on average for the school to 1:20 because the grading is more intensive. If FCPS is not following that is on them.

Lol

I find this humorous, too.

Acknowledging there is a problem isn’t a “tantrum.” I have had classes over 30, so I’d love to know where this 1:20 is actually occurring.

You are justifying bad teaching and somehow equating working 20 hours to grade after school as being equal to a teacher who doesn’t grade at all. It’s an irrelevant rant to compare yourself to this teacher who doesn’t grade.

This post is filled with trolls. Or, as I suspect, just one replying to 90% of the posts.

I wish you Troll sniffers, and other internet sleuthes (eg., bringing up other posts and asking "is this you", etc.) would GTFOH and stop taking up space. A) it doesn't matter and B) you're not the admin. You're not adding anything and aren't half as clever as you think you are.

And what value did your post add?

If it causes one of those jerks to go away, that will be a value.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of this really is the result of efforts to achieve equity, even before it was called equity, as represented by scores.

The retakes, the leveled instruction, the IEP meetings, disparate levels and unprepared kids who were pushed through, inability to provide meaningful discipline, IDEA, bahavioral issues related to electronic device culture.

All of this has basically taken the responsibility of the parents and foisted it onto the teachers.

Now not every parent can be as responsible to their kids as some others and therefore there will always be different outcomes, but if the expectation is that someone needs to account for those gaps and it’s not parents, then it’s teachers and here we are.

OMG, the OP asked about a teacher grading nothing for half a year. It's absurd to wait this long for corrections. They mean nothing by this time. Teachers have graded things and provided feedback. This has been figured out by other teachers before you. The fact that you keep giving excuses for this teacher is alarming.

An appeal from a burnt-out, ready-to-quit AP teacher here:

Nobody is making excuses for a teacher who hasn’t graded for 1/2 a year. Several posters have tried to explain what grading looks like for us. I am doing 20 hours of grading a week on top of a 40 hour work week. Every week. I’m home sick today, and I’m grading. I’m always grading. I went to my own kids’ concert last week and graded during the break between sets.

Perhaps if the angry parent on this thread could see that those of us grading are sacrificing hours of our own time DAILY to get comments back, we could get somewhere. Yes, I understand it’s my job… and I am doing it! Stop being nasty and just acknowledge that papers don’t grade themselves. And please don’t send me an email when I don’t get 150 in-class writing responses back within 48 hours. I can’t pause time to get it done.

You are not the first teacher to teach. Do you have any idea what it’s like going through a system for 13 years and hearing the same story excusing bad teaching? Why are you defending this teacher if you are spending so much time grading?

I’m the PP. I wrote “nobody is making excuses” and you interpreted that is “why are you defending this teacher.” It’s clear that you simply want to pick a fight. It looks like you got it. Satisfied? You have good teachers who are sacrificing tons of time with their own families to give you exactly what you want. We DO give back work. Regularly. We simply want you to see that all this work gets done on our own time; we are granted no time during our contract hours to get the bulk of the job done.

I’m within an inch of quitting. Nasty posters like you are not helping. I guarantee you that I AM the teacher you want your kid to have. Why chase me away with your nastiness?

No, I don't. You've posted on here all day. I don't even think you are a teacher in FCPS.

I’ve posted twice. It seems there are other teachers on here who would like to be treated with a small amount of respect.
And yes, I am a teacher, and I attended FCPS as a student. Can you try to be kind? What’s the point of picking on people who are on your side and trying to do the job you want us to do?

What is the point of supporting a teacher who doesn't grade? Why do you support this teacher if they are making teachers look bad?

NP: Because they are doing what I don't have the guts to do--make the job 40 hours so they have a life outside school. It isn't a case of "they could do it during the school day but are choosing other things". Arguably the three most critical parts of our job are teaching, lesson planning, and grading. Only 2 of those can be done in 40 hours. Which do you prefer I give up? Or are you saying the only good teachers are those that are willing to work 60 hours?

If more teachers don't learn how to draw a line, there will be an even greater educator shortage soon.

So now you are advocating for teachers to not grade? This is why people are fed up with FCPS. I think it comes with the territory that lesson planning, grading and teaching are part of the job. A job which also has a shortened day and many days off. You really think parents think sending their kids to a school system that teachers are protesting grading is worthwhile to their child’s development? No grades is not a solution to improving FCPS schools. People will just move if they can’t afford other options.

You've posted before and the reply was and still is BYE!!!!

Actually it is spot on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like you hate it and I can’t imagine what you are like at work with kids and parents. Full of drama I guess. It’s weird that you harp on all this extra work you slave away at but then rationalize that somehow you will still be an excellent teacher if you drop grading and become teacher G or OPs child’s teacher. You may have the capacity but you won’t be an excellent teacher by doing that. It really isn’t an option at the high school level to not grade so you are just making unnecessary drama. You know OPs teacher is going against FCPS policy and not doing her job well but are throwing a tantrum about unrelated work to this discussion anyway to stir things up. You know you don’t have to do extra grading work because you have OPs teacher as an example of one that doesn’t grade and no repercussions. High schoolers need grades. Thank god for AP classes that have actual tests so teachers and school systems can’t just do whatever they want without getting national recognition through lowered scores.

If you are an English teacher, the state of Virginia actually limits those classes on average for the school to 1:20 because the grading is more intensive. If FCPS is not following that is on them.

Lol

I find this humorous, too.

Acknowledging there is a problem isn’t a “tantrum.” I have had classes over 30, so I’d love to know where this 1:20 is actually occurring.

You are justifying bad teaching and somehow equating working 20 hours to grade after school as being equal to a teacher who doesn’t grade at all. It’s an irrelevant rant to compare yourself to this teacher who doesn’t grade.

This post is filled with trolls. Or, as I suspect, just one replying to 90% of the posts.

I wish you Troll sniffers, and other internet sleuthes (eg., bringing up other posts and asking "is this you", etc.) would GTFOH and stop taking up space. A) it doesn't matter and B) you're not the admin. You're not adding anything and aren't half as clever as you think you are.

And what value did your post add?

If it causes one of those jerks to go away, that will be a value.

I also hopes it makes the complaining DCUM posters (parents) leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You sound like you hate it and I can’t imagine what you are like at work with kids and parents. Full of drama I guess. It’s weird that you harp on all this extra work you slave away at but then rationalize that somehow you will still be an excellent teacher if you drop grading and become teacher G or OPs child’s teacher. You may have the capacity but you won’t be an excellent teacher by doing that. It really isn’t an option at the high school level to not grade so you are just making unnecessary drama. You know OPs teacher is going against FCPS policy and not doing her job well but are throwing a tantrum about unrelated work to this discussion anyway to stir things up. You know you don’t have to do extra grading work because you have OPs teacher as an example of one that doesn’t grade and no repercussions. High schoolers need grades. Thank god for AP classes that have actual tests so teachers and school systems can’t just do whatever they want without getting national recognition through lowered scores.

If you are an English teacher, the state of Virginia actually limits those classes on average for the school to 1:20 because the grading is more intensive. If FCPS is not following that is on them.

Okay. FCPS English classes frequently have 28-32 students. If a teacher should.have 5 classes of 20 (100 students) they probably instead have 5 classes of 28-32 (150 students). That's a massive difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You sound like you hate it and I can’t imagine what you are like at work with kids and parents. Full of drama I guess. It’s weird that you harp on all this extra work you slave away at but then rationalize that somehow you will still be an excellent teacher if you drop grading and become teacher G or OPs child’s teacher. You may have the capacity but you won’t be an excellent teacher by doing that. It really isn’t an option at the high school level to not grade so you are just making unnecessary drama. You know OPs teacher is going against FCPS policy and not doing her job well but are throwing a tantrum about unrelated work to this discussion anyway to stir things up. You know you don’t have to do extra grading work because you have OPs teacher as an example of one that doesn’t grade and no repercussions. High schoolers need grades. Thank god for AP classes that have actual tests so teachers and school systems can’t just do whatever they want without getting national recognition through lowered scores.

If you are an English teacher, the state of Virginia actually limits those classes on average for the school to 1:20 because the grading is more intensive. If FCPS is not following that is on them.

Lol

I find this humorous, too.

Acknowledging there is a problem isn’t a “tantrum.” I have had classes over 30, so I’d love to know where this 1:20 is actually occurring.

You are justifying bad teaching and somehow equating working 20 hours to grade after school as being equal to a teacher who doesn’t grade at all. It’s an irrelevant rant to compare yourself to this teacher who doesn’t grade.

This post is filled with trolls. Or, as I suspect, just one replying to 90% of the posts.

I wish you Troll sniffers, and other internet sleuthes (eg., bringing up other posts and asking "is this you", etc.) would GTFOH and stop taking up space. A) it doesn't matter and B) you're not the admin. You're not adding anything and aren't half as clever as you think you are.

And what value did your post add?

If it causes one of those jerks to go away, that will be a value.

I also hopes it makes the complaining DCUM posters (parents) leave.

You first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We're outside NOVA (downstate) and our high schooler's grades are always up to date. The teachers all have 140+ students per day coming through their classes, so it's not that they have only a few students. Tests given on paper are posted next day, sometimes same day.

But I did notice in FCPS HS with our older child that the grading was quite often way behind. Our kid would warn us sometimes. IT did seem like FCPS was always behind on grading. Even in grade school.

I think some of this is specific to the NOVA region. There's a real push for students to have good grades to get into "top colleges." I taught in two other areas, and the pressure was nowhere near the same.

I left FCPS three years ago, but in my time there, I saw a ton of policy changes that often led to grade inflation and a number of students not being prepared for courses they were opting into. As a teacher, this meant that I was often spending more time grading work from months prior, re-grading assignments from students who were desperate to bring their 90% up to 95%, and reframing lessons for students who frankly shouldn't have been in my class. It made keeping an up-to-date grade book nearly impossible.

This got worse every year I was there. Some of the policies around grading became and continue to be incredibly unreasonable and unmanageable as students face increasing pressure to get into incredibly competitive colleges.

That being said--no grades for half the year is not something I've ever heard of being acceptable.