Tilden MS

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Anonymous wrote:How is stem in Tilden? We were thinking to buy in this area, but reading some comments about math acceleration not being there makes me wonder.

Not genius or anything like that, but I have a kid who loves math and scored 260s in 5th grade MAP taken recently. Not sure it means anything special, but I don't want to intentionally put him in school where math is lowest priority for admin.

Anyone who had kids taking AIM at Tilden last year? Any feedback?

Am I better off just skipping Tilden?



Many kids take Alg 1 in grade 7, H Geo in grade 8 and a few kids take H Alg 2 concurrent with H Geo (have to go to WJ for that depending on year). There is the same mcps math pathway options that generally exist everywhere. Also can take tech electives all three years and earn high school
Tech credit in grade 8 which is really nice.

There are many wonderful caring staff trying hard. And some great programs. It is just overall an underperforming school with a culture problem that needs help.


Thanks for taking time to share.

I am not familiar with middle school scene, but by talking to a family friend in JW I got impression that AIM->Alg 1 -> Geo was pathway for kids who love math there. AIM is basically pre-alg, that's what he explained to me. Is it called AIM or some other name for pre-alg course in Tilden? I see IM listed in math course. Is it the same thing?


AIM and IM are basically the same course, but AIM is for 6th graders and IM for 7th graders. They both compact 7 and 8 math into one year. AIM is supposed to have some additional enrichment projects. Next year, though, MCPS has gotten rid of IM for 7th graders. They either will go into AMP 7+ (which is the 2nd half of grade 6 and all of grade 7 standards in one year) or algebra 1. However, schools are supposed to continue to offer AIM to 6th graders who need it. (AMP 6+ is also available for that grade, which compacts all of 6 and half of grade 7 standards into one year).


Not the PP, but since you know about it.

IM for 7th grader used to be 7+8 grade math combined ---> they can take Alg1 in 8th next year.

Now

AMP 7+ and that will be (which is the 2nd half of grade 6 and all of grade 7 standards in one year) ---> Do they take 8th grade math or move to Alg without taking 8th grade math any time??


Yes, after AMP 7+ they move to Algebra 1.

The three middle school math pathways have been changed to:

Math 6 - Math 7 - Math 8 (regular track - follows common core)
Math 6+ - Math 7+ - Algebra 1 (one year of acceleration vs. common core)
AIM - Algebra 1 - Geometry (2 years of acceleration vs. common core)
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Anonymous wrote:My kid is at Tilden. It isn’t perfect but, as with a lot of things in this board, the complaints are exaggerated.

They offer AIM and, though I wouldn’t call the academics rigorous, my kid is leaning good fundamentals, including things like organizational skill, time management, etc, which will prepare for the rigor of WJ. As with other middle schools, ELA isn’t that challenging, but they definitely read books (3 so far this year in 7th grade). We’ve found most of the teachers to be strong and responsive.

The weakness in my view are the limited extra curricular activities, which made it hard to make new friends after the pandemic. We’ve looked outside of school for that stuff.


Current 9th graders read zero books in 7th grade and maybe two in all of 8th English. So three books in one semester is a huge improvement. Good news.

Note maybe that was a Covid effect but other mcps middle schools managed to read books during Covid as part of class.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is at Tilden. It isn’t perfect but, as with a lot of things in this board, the complaints are exaggerated.

They offer AIM and, though I wouldn’t call the academics rigorous, my kid is leaning good fundamentals, including things like organizational skill, time management, etc, which will prepare for the rigor of WJ. As with other middle schools, ELA isn’t that challenging, but they definitely read books (3 so far this year in 7th grade). We’ve found most of the teachers to be strong and responsive.

The weakness in my view are the limited extra curricular activities, which made it hard to make new friends after the pandemic. We’ve looked outside of school for that stuff.


Current 9th graders read zero books in 7th grade and maybe two in all of 8th English. So three books in one semester is a huge improvement. Good news.

Note maybe that was a Covid effect but other mcps middle schools managed to read books during Covid as part of class.



Such a missed opportunity to encourage reading during Covid.
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Anonymous wrote:The 8th grade girls at Tilden are as just as mean and backstabbing as Regina George in Mean Girls. They are so toxic and nothing ever happens to them


It starts in 7th grade there and a lot of it is mom-directed. The over the top b’nai mitzvah celebrations help foster a culture of exclusion since some students are not only not invited, but then are the few who don’t have the custom hoodie favor to wear to school.


I have noticed this issue and tried to keep it low profile with our kids. Mostly failed in that effort. Some self reflection is needed by all of us.

It's very hard for 7th graders to understand how some other kids may be feeling due to being excluded.


It is grotesque to send kids to school with clothing that marks who is in and who is out as a way of honoring a religious event. Kids do plenty of dividing as it is. The parents don’t need to facilitate it.


I have seen the bullying and exclusion of these so called girl cliques but this years 8th grade group is really bad. I wonder if excluding kids and doing these clothes and parties has been part of the anti semitism. Maybe it is just jealous kids feeling left out?
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Anonymous wrote:The 8th grade girls at Tilden are as just as mean and backstabbing as Regina George in Mean Girls. They are so toxic and nothing ever happens to them


It starts in 7th grade there and a lot of it is mom-directed. The over the top b’nai mitzvah celebrations help foster a culture of exclusion since some students are not only not invited, but then are the few who don’t have the custom hoodie favor to wear to school.


I have noticed this issue and tried to keep it low profile with our kids. Mostly failed in that effort. Some self reflection is needed by all of us.

It's very hard for 7th graders to understand how some other kids may be feeling due to being excluded.


It is grotesque to send kids to school with clothing that marks who is in and who is out as a way of honoring a religious event. Kids do plenty of dividing as it is. The parents don’t need to facilitate it.


I have seen the bullying and exclusion of these so called girl cliques but this years 8th grade group is really bad. I wonder if excluding kids and doing these clothes and parties has been part of the anti semitism. Maybe it is just jealous kids feeling left out?


A principal told me that all of the recent anti Semitic incidents were connected to an adult hate group grooming kids.
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Anonymous wrote:The 8th grade girls at Tilden are as just as mean and backstabbing as Regina George in Mean Girls. They are so toxic and nothing ever happens to them


It starts in 7th grade there and a lot of it is mom-directed. The over the top b’nai mitzvah celebrations help foster a culture of exclusion since some students are not only not invited, but then are the few who don’t have the custom hoodie favor to wear to school.


I have noticed this issue and tried to keep it low profile with our kids. Mostly failed in that effort. Some self reflection is needed by all of us.

It's very hard for 7th graders to understand how some other kids may be feeling due to being excluded.


It is grotesque to send kids to school with clothing that marks who is in and who is out as a way of honoring a religious event. Kids do plenty of dividing as it is. The parents don’t need to facilitate it.


I have seen the bullying and exclusion of these so called girl cliques but this years 8th grade group is really bad. I wonder if excluding kids and doing these clothes and parties has been part of the anti semitism. Maybe it is just jealous kids feeling left out?


A principal told me that all of the recent anti Semitic incidents were connected to an adult hate group grooming kids.


That wasn’t announced at Tilden
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The 8th grade girls at Tilden are as just as mean and backstabbing as Regina George in Mean Girls. They are so toxic and nothing ever happens to them


It starts in 7th grade there and a lot of it is mom-directed. The over the top b’nai mitzvah celebrations help foster a culture of exclusion since some students are not only not invited, but then are the few who don’t have the custom hoodie favor to wear to school.


I have noticed this issue and tried to keep it low profile with our kids. Mostly failed in that effort. Some self reflection is needed by all of us.

It's very hard for 7th graders to understand how some other kids may be feeling due to being excluded.


It is grotesque to send kids to school with clothing that marks who is in and who is out as a way of honoring a religious event. Kids do plenty of dividing as it is. The parents don’t need to facilitate it.


I have seen the bullying and exclusion of these so called girl cliques but this years 8th grade group is really bad. I wonder if excluding kids and doing these clothes and parties has been part of the anti semitism. Maybe it is just jealous kids feeling left out?


A principal told me that all of the recent anti Semitic incidents were connected to an adult hate group grooming kids.



Can you say more about this? My kid is at Tilden and after the latest incident, I wrote to ask for clarity. One of my questions was whether or not the suspect is some dumb teen thinking he’s being edgy or if it was a kid with ties to a larger group. I realize she probably can’t tell me much, but the answer affects how I feel about it and also the plan of action moving forward (IMO). I have not yet heard back from her.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The 8th grade girls at Tilden are as just as mean and backstabbing as Regina George in Mean Girls. They are so toxic and nothing ever happens to them


It starts in 7th grade there and a lot of it is mom-directed. The over the top b’nai mitzvah celebrations help foster a culture of exclusion since some students are not only not invited, but then are the few who don’t have the custom hoodie favor to wear to school.


I have noticed this issue and tried to keep it low profile with our kids. Mostly failed in that effort. Some self reflection is needed by all of us.

It's very hard for 7th graders to understand how some other kids may be feeling due to being excluded.


It is grotesque to send kids to school with clothing that marks who is in and who is out as a way of honoring a religious event. Kids do plenty of dividing as it is. The parents don’t need to facilitate it.


I have seen the bullying and exclusion of these so called girl cliques but this years 8th grade group is really bad. I wonder if excluding kids and doing these clothes and parties has been part of the anti semitism. Maybe it is just jealous kids feeling left out?


A principal told me that all of the recent anti Semitic incidents were connected to an adult hate group grooming kids.



Can you say more about this? My kid is at Tilden and after the latest incident, I wrote to ask for clarity. One of my questions was whether or not the suspect is some dumb teen thinking he’s being edgy or if it was a kid with ties to a larger group. I realize she probably can’t tell me much, but the answer affects how I feel about it and also the plan of action moving forward (IMO). I have not yet heard back from her.


+1

If anyone knows.
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Anonymous wrote:We can’t ignore the impact of Covid either. MCPS needs to do better for the burned out teachers too.

that would apply to all schools, not just Tilden.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The 8th grade girls at Tilden are as just as mean and backstabbing as Regina George in Mean Girls. They are so toxic and nothing ever happens to them


It starts in 7th grade there and a lot of it is mom-directed. The over the top b’nai mitzvah celebrations help foster a culture of exclusion since some students are not only not invited, but then are the few who don’t have the custom hoodie favor to wear to school.


I have noticed this issue and tried to keep it low profile with our kids. Mostly failed in that effort. Some self reflection is needed by all of us.

It's very hard for 7th graders to understand how some other kids may be feeling due to being excluded.


It is grotesque to send kids to school with clothing that marks who is in and who is out as a way of honoring a religious event. Kids do plenty of dividing as it is. The parents don’t need to facilitate it.


I have seen the bullying and exclusion of these so called girl cliques but this years 8th grade group is really bad. I wonder if excluding kids and doing these clothes and parties has been part of the anti semitism. Maybe it is just jealous kids feeling left out?


A principal told me that all of the recent anti Semitic incidents were connected to an adult hate group grooming kids.



Can you say more about this? My kid is at Tilden and after the latest incident, I wrote to ask for clarity. One of my questions was whether or not the suspect is some dumb teen thinking he’s being edgy or if it was a kid with ties to a larger group. I realize she probably can’t tell me much, but the answer affects how I feel about it and also the plan of action moving forward (IMO). I have not yet heard back from her.


Sorry, I don’t have more info, but the principal told our family that students were groomed for this via social media over the span of months and MoCo police and another law enforcement agency were aware and investigating.
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So it seems , Tilden has academic performance issue and also cultural issue.

Kids are the same everywhere. Since, Tilden is having more problems than other schools in the area, it looks like problem is related to admin.
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I have a 6th grader at Tilden, and we're all happy, so far. We learned quickly that most of the other parents aren't really our type.i think this thread is a good example. Kids has friends, tho, and does well.
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Anonymous wrote:I have a 6th grader at Tilden, and we're all happy, so far. We learned quickly that most of the other parents aren't really our type.i think this thread is a good example. Kids has friends, tho, and does well.


What are the parents like? Incoming 6th grader and nervous
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Anonymous wrote:I have a 6th grader at Tilden, and we're all happy, so far. We learned quickly that most of the other parents aren't really our type.i think this thread is a good example. Kids has friends, tho, and does well.

The other parents? Didn't your child go to ES in the area? Same parents, if anything.
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Anonymous wrote:I have a 6th grader at Tilden, and we're all happy, so far. We learned quickly that most of the other parents aren't really our type.i think this thread is a good example. Kids has friends, tho, and does well.

The other parents? Didn't your child go to ES in the area? Same parents, if anything.
not that poster, but it’s a lot of feeder ES. Plus, Tilden gets a lot of kids who attended private ES.
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