Tilden MS

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Anonymous wrote:The new boundaries haven't been set yet

It's over. Woodward and Tilden are not going to be as good as WJ and North Bethesda. They will be high FARMS. Don't try to tell me that's a good thing. It isn't

Nothing is over. If FARMS is the only measure you care about, under two current options Tilden numbers will even slightly improve (Woodward is different story). Only option 3 is catastrophic. And options will be modified. So this whole "earthquake is coming to Tilden zone" is very premature.

Today Tilden is not as good as North Bethesda but that disparity may not deepen at all.

not the PP you are replying, but that's the mian story to be honest.

Right now Tilden area kids attend 18% FARMS HS. They will be attending 35-45% FARMS. Earthquake is already there.

Look around what happens with high FARMS schools.

35-45% FARMS isn't high FARMS. It's at or slightly below average for MCPS.

It is high FARMS. We’ve normalized high FARMS here.

MCPS has several middle schools with >70% FARMS.

35-40% is high FARMS for educational impact. FARMS kids do well when school is at 20$ or below FARMS.

Entire county used to be lower FARMS and it's gooing higher and higher. Just because county FARMS has been going up unchecked, we can's say that 35-40% is not high. 70% is very high FARMS. Yes, you can find something 90% and say that 70% is not very high.

When all said and done right now Tilden area attends a HS having FARMS of 18%. Going to 35-40% is more than doubling it and crossing the threashold where it will start having impact.

Maybe so, but Tilden doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's one small part of MCPS, and these decisions are going to be made looking at the bigger picture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The new boundaries haven't been set yet

It's over. Woodward and Tilden are not going to be as good as WJ and North Bethesda. They will be high FARMS. Don't try to tell me that's a good thing. It isn't

Nothing is over. If FARMS is the only measure you care about, under two current options Tilden numbers will even slightly improve (Woodward is different story). Only option 3 is catastrophic. And options will be modified. So this whole "earthquake is coming to Tilden zone" is very premature.

Today Tilden is not as good as North Bethesda but that disparity may not deepen at all.

not the PP you are replying, but that's the mian story to be honest.

Right now Tilden area kids attend 18% FARMS HS. They will be attending 35-45% FARMS. Earthquake is already there.

Look around what happens with high FARMS schools.

35-45% FARMS isn't high FARMS. It's at or slightly below average for MCPS.

It is high FARMS. We’ve normalized high FARMS here.

MCPS has several middle schools with >70% FARMS.

35-40% is high FARMS for educational impact. FARMS kids do well when school is at 20$ or below FARMS.

Entire county used to be lower FARMS and it's gooing higher and higher. Just because county FARMS has been going up unchecked, we can's say that 35-40% is not high. 70% is very high FARMS. Yes, you can find something 90% and say that 70% is not very high.

When all said and done right now Tilden area attends a HS having FARMS of 18%. Going to 35-40% is more than doubling it and crossing the threashold where it will start having impact.

Maybe so, but Tilden doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's one small part of MCPS, and these decisions are going to be made looking at the bigger picture.

That's different angle than saying 35-40% is not a high FARMS.

Pretty soon we will be saying 60-70% is not high FARMS because county becomes 90% FARMS.

[Anonymous]

Why there are so many issues at Tilden?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The new boundaries haven't been set yet

It's over. Woodward and Tilden are not going to be as good as WJ and North Bethesda. They will be high FARMS. Don't try to tell me that's a good thing. It isn't

It would be a much less toxic environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why there are so many issues at Tilden?

Tilden parent are people who didn’t quite have the life they were led to believe they deserved. They had to settle for North Bethesda rather than Bethesda, WJ rather than Churchill. They think they can socially engineer better for their kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The new boundaries haven't been set yet

It's over. Woodward and Tilden are not going to be as good as WJ and North Bethesda. They will be high FARMS. Don't try to tell me that's a good thing. It isn't

Nothing is over. If FARMS is the only measure you care about, under two current options Tilden numbers will even slightly improve (Woodward is different story). Only option 3 is catastrophic. And options will be modified. So this whole "earthquake is coming to Tilden zone" is very premature.

Today Tilden is not as good as North Bethesda but that disparity may not deepen at all.

not the PP you are replying, but that's the mian story to be honest.

Right now Tilden area kids attend 18% FARMS HS. They will be attending 35-45% FARMS. Earthquake is already there.

Look around what happens with high FARMS schools.

35-45% FARMS isn't high FARMS. It's at or slightly below average for MCPS.

Sure it is. Stop normalizing what is and is not a high rate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The new boundaries haven't been set yet

It's over. Woodward and Tilden are not going to be as good as WJ and North Bethesda. They will be high FARMS. Don't try to tell me that's a good thing. It isn't

Nothing is over. If FARMS is the only measure you care about, under two current options Tilden numbers will even slightly improve (Woodward is different story). Only option 3 is catastrophic. And options will be modified. So this whole "earthquake is coming to Tilden zone" is very premature.

Today Tilden is not as good as North Bethesda but that disparity may not deepen at all.

not the PP you are replying, but that's the mian story to be honest.

Right now Tilden area kids attend 18% FARMS HS. They will be attending 35-45% FARMS. Earthquake is already there.

Look around what happens with high FARMS schools.

35-45% FARMS isn't high FARMS. It's at or slightly below average for MCPS.

County average has been going higher with time. Some time later even 60% won't be high because county will be at 80%.

20% is tipping point on FARMS for decline in education outcomes. They need to modify to get Woodward at 20% range. Modify option 4 to send Viers Mill to WJ instead. Send GP to Woodward. It balances out enrollment. And alleviates Wheaton overcrowding. That's the solution.

The solution is not to have large, countywide school systems.

[Anonymous]

There isn't much discipline at Tilden so the kids can get away with a lot and the teachers can't do much about it. I don't have experience with any other middle schools so I'm not sure if this is a Tilden issue or MCPS issue. I think setting boundaries and enforcing rules would go a long way in terms of fixing the issues there. That said, my child likes Tilden very much - it's me that wishes there was more structure and support for the teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:How is Tilden MS lately ? How is the new principal Ms Sapna Hopkins? Is it a good school ?

It offers the same educational opportunities that are present at all MCPS MS.

Theoretically, yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The new boundaries haven't been set yet

It's over. Woodward and Tilden are not going to be as good as WJ and North Bethesda. They will be high FARMS. Don't try to tell me that's a good thing. It isn't

Nothing is over. If FARMS is the only measure you care about, under two current options Tilden numbers will even slightly improve (Woodward is different story). Only option 3 is catastrophic. And options will be modified. So this whole "earthquake is coming to Tilden zone" is very premature.

Today Tilden is not as good as North Bethesda but that disparity may not deepen at all.

not the PP you are replying, but that's the mian story to be honest.

Right now Tilden area kids attend 18% FARMS HS. They will be attending 35-45% FARMS. Earthquake is already there.

Look around what happens with high FARMS schools.

35-45% FARMS isn't high FARMS. It's at or slightly below average for MCPS.

County average has been going higher with time. Some time later even 60% won't be high because county will be at 80%.

20% is tipping point on FARMS for decline in education outcomes. They need to modify to get Woodward at 20% range. Modify option 4 to send Viers Mill to WJ instead. Send GP to Woodward. It balances out enrollment. And alleviates Wheaton overcrowding. That's the solution.

The solution is not to have large, countywide school systems.

Have & have-not. Great way to stultify social mobility and perpetuate the socioeconomic status quo.

Or there could be immense funding differences from a common pot such that there is no effective difference in academic opportunity for a kid walking into one school versus a nearly identical kid walking into another.

Or go private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There isn't much discipline at Tilden so the kids can get away with a lot and the teachers can't do much about it. I don't have experience with any other middle schools so I'm not sure if this is a Tilden issue or MCPS issue. I think setting boundaries and enforcing rules would go a long way in terms of fixing the issues there. That said, my child likes Tilden very much - it's me that wishes there was more structure and support for the teachers.

I think there is more fear of parents there than any other school except NBMS.

[Anonymous]

But NB does not have as many I
ssues as Tilden