TJ College Admissions Results

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ has the best college acceptances in the country in pure numbers. About 30% to top 25, about 80% to top 35 and they receive one of the most merit based scholarships about $180,000 per student on average including some universities that do not give out much merit scholarships to OOS students.

Seems inflated. Can you share the source for these numbers please?

There is a link earlier in this thread to 2022 dollege destinations:
https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/senior_issue_2022_combined

80% to T35 is a little inflated, depending on your personal T35 ranking - maybe you should use STEM-heavy rankings for TJ grads. But it's at least 50% to T50 by any T50 ranking.

But in a 180,000 student county, you should expect the to 1800ish (1%) students to be getting into T50 schools, right? and TJ has the 500 of those top 1% students, so TJ acceptances should be expected to be T50 heavy. Note that I didn't say TJ students were the top 500 students in the county - I recognize noise in the selection process and the presence of top 1% students at all FCPS high schools.

[Anonymous]

Aren't we just looking at were people decided to go or did they somehow get everyone to report their results for every college they applied to? How is that verified? I could see some people claiming they turned down schools that didn't even admit them to save face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aren't we just looking at were people decided to go or did they somehow get everyone to report their results for every college they applied to? How is that verified? I could see some people claiming they turned down schools that didn't even admit them to save face.

Every TJ graduating class have their own college destination site where they self report which colleges each of them applied to and the decisions. While it is possible for someone to misreport but very unlikely as they do it to help the next class.

[Anonymous]

I like your point and the way you thinking.
Just like to point out one data point, yes, 180,000 students in FCPS, but that's K-12, so each grade is about 15,000 students.
Has to be more than 1% (150 students) going to T50.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ has the best college acceptances in the country in pure numbers. About 30% to top 25, about 80% to top 35 and they receive one of the most merit based scholarships about $180,000 per student on average including some universities that do not give out much merit scholarships to OOS students.

But in a 180,000 student county, you should expect the to 1800ish (1%) students to be getting into T50 schools, right?

[Anonymous]

Every year, TJ narrows more into "pre-pre-med" and "computer science." Students with math focus can stay at base and attend George Mason from ninth grade or indulge themselves and work on competition math at highest international level at Nysmith. And get into Stanford unhooked. It's a myth that all of the smartest students go to TJ. Yes there's quite a few who are off the charts gifted geniuses but many of the smartest FCPS/ACPS/LCPS kids stay home bc not interested in pre-med and CS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like your point and the way you thinking.
Just like to point out one data point, yes, 180,000 students in FCPS, but that's K-12, so each grade is about 15,000 students.
Has to be more than 1% (150 students) going to T50.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ has the best college acceptances in the country in pure numbers. About 30% to top 25, about 80% to top 35 and they receive one of the most merit based scholarships about $180,000 per student on average including some universities that do not give out much merit scholarships to OOS students.

But in a 180,000 student county, you should expect the to 1800ish (1%) students to be getting into T50 schools, right?

There are approximately 3k undergrads at UVA from the FFX county alone. That is about 750+ undergrads enrolling each year. That is more than 1% just at T25s. % from ffx to T50 should be even higher.

[Anonymous]

Is TJ's college acceptances better than Sidwell's?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is TJ's college acceptances better than Sidwell's?

Sidwell parent here whose kid considered TJ. Sidwell has better results but several, including my kids, were legacies at top schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TJ's college acceptances better than Sidwell's?

Sidwell parent here whose kid considered TJ. Sidwell has better results but several, including my kids, were legacies at top schools

Can you explain further?;

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TJ's college acceptances better than Sidwell's?

Sidwell parent here whose kid considered TJ. Sidwell has better results but several, including my kids, were legacies at top schools

Can you explain further?;

Sidwell, across the board, does NOT get “better results” at all! TJ is no 1 in the US for Technology for a reason!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But these data points reflect a time when admission to TJ was precisely based on doing well on standardized tests, correct?

Look those of who are still hung up on the admission process change to TJ must understand that it has not fundamentally changed things at TJ. Look at the admission data - The number of Asian kids were admitted after the admission process change is about same as the number of admitted Asian kids before the change. What actually happened after the admission process change were- 1) The class size increased and that allowed more URM kids to be recruited ( this is better for diversity) 2) Eliminated the test prep industry which frankly not all but a significant number of Asian/Indian communities were patronizing to game the system 3) Allowed more schools to send their best students to TJ.

The problem is the admission process change was politicized by the right wing disinformation machine and what the county and the admin failed to do was communicate clearly and got wind up in their own politics. And off course most in the Asian/Indian communities had a knee jerk reaction and fell pray to the disinformation machine to vote in a right wing Governor.

Again, data never lies.

A lot of the Asian community wasn't that aware of TJ which is only relevant to a few grades, but were a little more aware that the advanced math was going away with Democrats, as this affected many more grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But these data points reflect a time when admission to TJ was precisely based on doing well on standardized tests, correct?

Look those of who are still hung up on the admission process change to TJ must understand that it has not fundamentally changed things at TJ. Look at the admission data - The number of Asian kids were admitted after the admission process change is about same as the number of admitted Asian kids before the change. What actually happened after the admission process change were- 1) The class size increased and that allowed more URM kids to be recruited ( this is better for diversity) 2) Eliminated the test prep industry which frankly not all but a significant number of Asian/Indian communities were patronizing to game the system 3) Allowed more schools to send their best students to TJ.

The problem is the admission process change was politicized by the right wing disinformation machine and what the county and the admin failed to do was communicate clearly and got wind up in their own politics. And off course most in the Asian/Indian communities had a knee jerk reaction and fell pray to the disinformation machine to vote in a right wing Governor.

Again, data never lies.

India is in Asia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TJ's college acceptances better than Sidwell's?

Sidwell parent here whose kid considered TJ. Sidwell has better results but several, including my kids, were legacies at top schools

Can you explain further?;

Sidwell, across the board, does NOT get “better results” at all! TJ is no 1 in the US for Technology for a reason!

The typical TJ student would have better college admission results if they stayed at their base school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TJ's college acceptances better than Sidwell's?

Sidwell parent here whose kid considered TJ. Sidwell has better results but several, including my kids, were legacies at top schools

Can you explain further?;

Sidwell, across the board, does NOT get “better results” at all! TJ is no 1 in the US for Technology for a reason!

The typical TJ student would have better college admission results if they stayed at their base school.

How could you ever possibly prove this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TJ's college acceptances better than Sidwell's?

Sidwell parent here whose kid considered TJ. Sidwell has better results but several, including my kids, were legacies at top schools

Can you explain further?;

Sidwell, across the board, does NOT get “better results” at all! TJ is no 1 in the US for Technology for a reason!

The typical TJ student would have better college admission results if they stayed at their base school.

How could you ever possibly prove this?

Ask any TJ parent who thought their kid would go Ivy, ended up at VT, and watched their kids get lapped by the kids at Chantilly that stayed behind.