Chinese balloon flying

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm an avid China watcher, and I find this interesting, but not a crisis. The Chinese are doing much more provocative things-- buying farmland near sensitive sites, as a pp pointed out, for one-- than flying an old school surveillance balloon.

I do think it is possible China is attempting to bait us into conflict, because they have a lot of interest in conflict RIGHT NOW while the iron is hot. Any conflict with China would likely be in the South China Sea and involve control of Taiwan. But, the deck is stacked in their favor right now bc we have been irresponsible in maintaining our Naval fleet, we are engrossed in domestic and international conflict, NATO is busy, etc. And for China, if they wait, we will have refit our Navy, they will in the midst of a prolonged chip shortage (which ends if they take Taiwan), and a population crisis since there will not be the right male/female ratio.

So I think they are trying to bait us. We should either ignore the balloon or jam its signal and feed it with disgusting images. They didnt retaliate when we bombed their embassy so we can call it even.


+1

I do feel like they are slipping in through the back door with the massive farmland buy up near sensitive sites, the TikTok and computer hacking/monitoring. Sneaky f@@@rs. While the US is embroiled in distraction and in-fighting about meaningless crap.
Anonymous
We don’t see much of anything this White House has done to upset Xi Jinping.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I would expect the US public to get very little details. Of course.

Of course the Pentagon and White House are not going to report what they know or plan to do.

Duh!!


The fact that they have done nothing at this point is concerning.
They have known about this balloon for days, if not weeks. It is a fricking spy balloon.
Even the pentagon spokesperson said it was a violation of our airspace and a violation of international law.

And, this administration's response is "Meh. Let 'er fly."

What a ridiculously weak response.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm an avid China watcher, and I find this interesting, but not a crisis. The Chinese are doing much more provocative things-- buying farmland near sensitive sites, as a pp pointed out, for one-- than flying an old school surveillance balloon.

I do think it is possible China is attempting to bait us into conflict, because they have a lot of interest in conflict RIGHT NOW while the iron is hot. Any conflict with China would likely be in the South China Sea and involve control of Taiwan. But, the deck is stacked in their favor right now bc we have been irresponsible in maintaining our Naval fleet, we are engrossed in domestic and international conflict, NATO is busy, etc. And for China, if they wait, we will have refit our Navy, they will in the midst of a prolonged chip shortage (which ends if they take Taiwan), and a population crisis since there will not be the right male/female ratio.

So I think they are trying to bait us. We should either ignore the balloon or jam its signal and feed it with disgusting images. They didnt retaliate when we bombed their embassy so we can call it even.


+1

I do feel like they are slipping in through the back door with the massive farmland buy up near sensitive sites, the TikTok and computer hacking/monitoring. Sneaky f@@@rs. While the US is embroiled in distraction and in-fighting about meaningless crap.

They’ve been slipping in through every door for decades. Most American politicians are easy to buy off. They like the extra cash. Few of them are even half as wealthy as 45.

Why are they *still* today allowed to buy our farmland?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would expect the US public to get very little details. Of course.

Of course the Pentagon and White House are not going to report what they know or plan to do.

Duh!!


The fact that they have done nothing at this point is concerning.
They have known about this balloon for days, if not weeks. It is a fricking spy balloon.
Even the pentagon spokesperson said it was a violation of our airspace and a violation of international law.

And, this administration's response is "Meh. Let 'er fly."

What a ridiculously weak response.


I read from a former DOD they want to collect data and see exactly what it is and info it has which might mean a plan to figure out how to get it down to do just that. They also don’t want China to see what they will do when they launch the real one so they can plan around it.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm an avid China watcher, and I find this interesting, but not a crisis. The Chinese are doing much more provocative things-- buying farmland near sensitive sites, as a pp pointed out, for one-- than flying an old school surveillance balloon.

I do think it is possible China is attempting to bait us into conflict, because they have a lot of interest in conflict RIGHT NOW while the iron is hot. Any conflict with China would likely be in the South China Sea and involve control of Taiwan. But, the deck is stacked in their favor right now bc we have been irresponsible in maintaining our Naval fleet, we are engrossed in domestic and international conflict, NATO is busy, etc. And for China, if they wait, we will have refit our Navy, they will in the midst of a prolonged chip shortage (which ends if they take Taiwan), and a population crisis since there will not be the right male/female ratio.

So I think they are trying to bait us. We should either ignore the balloon or jam its signal and feed it with disgusting images. They didnt retaliate when we bombed their embassy so we can call it even.


+1

I do feel like they are slipping in through the back door with the massive farmland buy up near sensitive sites, the TikTok and computer hacking/monitoring. Sneaky f@@@rs. While the US is embroiled in distraction and in-fighting about meaningless crap.

They’ve been slipping in through every door for decades. Most American politicians are easy to buy off. They like the extra cash. Few of them are even half as wealthy as 45.

Why are they *still* today allowed to buy our farmland?


Agree. Maybe because our govt is filled with cons and freaks.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/07/19/china-buying-us-farms-foreign-purchase-499893
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would expect the US public to get very little details. Of course.

Of course the Pentagon and White House are not going to report what they know or plan to do.

Duh!!


The fact that they have done nothing at this point is concerning.
They have known about this balloon for days, if not weeks. It is a fricking spy balloon.
Even the pentagon spokesperson said it was a violation of our airspace and a violation of international law.

And, this administration's response is "Meh. Let 'er fly."

What a ridiculously weak response.


I read from a former DOD they want to collect data and see exactly what it is and info it has which might mean a plan to figure out how to get it down to do just that. They also don’t want China to see what they will do when they launch the real one so they can plan around it.


Why didn’t they just take it down before reaching our border?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm an avid China watcher, and I find this interesting, but not a crisis. The Chinese are doing much more provocative things-- buying farmland near sensitive sites, as a pp pointed out, for one-- than flying an old school surveillance balloon.

I do think it is possible China is attempting to bait us into conflict, because they have a lot of interest in conflict RIGHT NOW while the iron is hot. Any conflict with China would likely be in the South China Sea and involve control of Taiwan. But, the deck is stacked in their favor right now bc we have been irresponsible in maintaining our Naval fleet, we are engrossed in domestic and international conflict, NATO is busy, etc. And for China, if they wait, we will have refit our Navy, they will in the midst of a prolonged chip shortage (which ends if they take Taiwan), and a population crisis since there will not be the right male/female ratio.

So I think they are trying to bait us. We should either ignore the balloon or jam its signal and feed it with disgusting images. They didnt retaliate when we bombed their embassy so we can call it even.


+1

I do feel like they are slipping in through the back door with the massive farmland buy up near sensitive sites, the TikTok and computer hacking/monitoring. Sneaky f@@@rs. While the US is embroiled in distraction and in-fighting about meaningless crap.

They’ve been slipping in through every door for decades. Most American politicians are easy to buy off. They like the extra cash. Few of them are even half as wealthy as 45.

Why are they *still* today allowed to buy our farmland?


Agree. Maybe because our govt is filled with cons and freaks.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/07/19/china-buying-us-farms-foreign-purchase-499893


And as you’ll note ^ that was 2 years ago we were talking about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would expect the US public to get very little details. Of course.

Of course the Pentagon and White House are not going to report what they know or plan to do.

Duh!!


The fact that they have done nothing at this point is concerning.
They have known about this balloon for days, if not weeks. It is a fricking spy balloon.
Even the pentagon spokesperson said it was a violation of our airspace and a violation of international law.

And, this administration's response is "Meh. Let 'er fly."

What a ridiculously weak response.


Well now that it’s public I’m sure some locals will “geterdun!”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would expect the US public to get very little details. Of course.

Of course the Pentagon and White House are not going to report what they know or plan to do.

Duh!!


The fact that they have done nothing at this point is concerning.
They have known about this balloon for days, if not weeks. It is a fricking spy balloon.
Even the pentagon spokesperson said it was a violation of our airspace and a violation of international law.

And, this administration's response is "Meh. Let 'er fly."

What a ridiculously weak response.


I read from a former DOD they want to collect data and see exactly what it is and info it has which might mean a plan to figure out how to get it down to do just that. They also don’t want China to see what they will do when they launch the real one so they can plan around it.


Why didn’t they just take it down before reaching our border?


No idea. We have good friends in Montana that said it sounded loud as hell. People got cameras and seriously thought it was a ufo.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would expect the US public to get very little details. Of course.

Of course the Pentagon and White House are not going to report what they know or plan to do.

Duh!!


The fact that they have done nothing at this point is concerning.
They have known about this balloon for days, if not weeks. It is a fricking spy balloon.
Even the pentagon spokesperson said it was a violation of our airspace and a violation of international law.

And, this administration's response is "Meh. Let 'er fly."

What a ridiculously weak response.


I read from a former DOD they want to collect data and see exactly what it is and info it has which might mean a plan to figure out how to get it down to do just that. They also don’t want China to see what they will do when they launch the real one so they can plan around it.


Why didn’t they just take it down before reaching our border?


No idea. We have good friends in Montana that said it sounded loud as hell. People got cameras and seriously thought it was a ufo.

Outrageous that Democrats allowed this to happen. We’re being overrun by enemies on several fronts.
Anonymous
Canada has said there is a second ballon headed our way. WITW!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Canada has said there is a second ballon headed our way. WITW!

Democrats in the White House will continue to do nothing. Why is that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would expect the US public to get very little details. Of course.

Of course the Pentagon and White House are not going to report what they know or plan to do.

Duh!!


The fact that they have done nothing at this point is concerning.
They have known about this balloon for days, if not weeks. It is a fricking spy balloon.
Even the pentagon spokesperson said it was a violation of our airspace and a violation of international law.

And, this administration's response is "Meh. Let 'er fly."

What a ridiculously weak response.


THEY ARE TAKING THE ADVICE OF THE PENTAGON
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would expect the US public to get very little details. Of course.

Of course the Pentagon and White House are not going to report what they know or plan to do.

Duh!!


The fact that they have done nothing at this point is concerning.
They have known about this balloon for days, if not weeks. It is a fricking spy balloon.
Even the pentagon spokesperson said it was a violation of our airspace and a violation of international law.

And, this administration's response is "Meh. Let 'er fly."

What a ridiculously weak response.


I read from a former DOD they want to collect data and see exactly what it is and info it has which might mean a plan to figure out how to get it down to do just that. They also don’t want China to see what they will do when they launch the real one so they can plan around it.


Why didn’t they just take it down before reaching our border?


Because the rendered it not to be a thread to any American lives and are now using this opportunity to learn about it and its uses/intent.

Please people, they are not idiots.
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