Options for a 13 year old this summer

[Anonymous]

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So kind of you to come call the solution I came up with to a difficult situation weird. Really appreciate that.

I'm not that poster and I don't find the solution of doing camps all summer weird under your unique circumstance. My younger son is the same age and will do a few camps this summer, although not all summer. However, I do find it a bit strange that you don't mention trying to coordinate with his friends on this. I would be fine having one of my son's friends at our place during the day for a week over the summer (I work, but they are old enough to mostly amuse themselves). I also find it a bit odd that you don't mention coordinating with his friends on camps. Most kids don't do camp all summer at that age, but do one or two camps over the course of a summer.

I don’t know why that would be odd. If I didn’t ask it might be odd but I don’t know why I would include that info in a thread asking for recommendations.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't really think nursing companies can exert so much control in what goes in someone's home. That doesn't seem right to me.

Of course they can. No one is forcing anyone to engage that particular company’s services if they don’t agree with the policy.

I haven’t heard of this before, but I don’t really blame them. The nurse being the only responsible adult in the home (presuming the person who needs home nursing care may not be the spryest or in best of health) with someone else’s minor child who isn’t their patient is opening the company up to a world of liability.

OP here,

I understand the rule. I am sure that if the rule wasn't clear people would take advantage of it.

But the reality is that in home skilled nursing care is really hard to find. Am I being "forced" to use that particular company? Well, they're the only one that will fill the hours, and without the coverage my child needs to go live in the hospital, it feels like I'm being forced. If my choices are that one kid goes to a nice day camp that hopefully DCUM will help me find, or the other doesn't get to live with me at all?

Well, I'm going to come to DCUM to ask them to recommend those nice day camps or other options for 13 year olds. Which is the question I am asking here.

I know, I wasn’t responding to you, but all of the huffy, indignant PPs who insist the policy is “ridiculous” and “absurd” and told you to “just change providers.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't really think nursing companies can exert so much control in what goes in someone's home. That doesn't seem right to me.

Of course they can. No one is forcing anyone to engage that particular company’s services if they don’t agree with the policy.

I haven’t heard of this before, but I don’t really blame them. The nurse being the only responsible adult in the home (presuming the person who needs home nursing care may not be the spryest or in best of health) with someone else’s minor child who isn’t their patient is opening the company up to a world of liability.

+ accusations of molestation/inappropriate behavior.

I don't find this rule surprising at all.

I don't find it surprising either but its still wrong regardless of the reason, he has every right to be in his own home.

It’s not “wrong.” He can be in his own home — just not when the contracted caregiver is there and no other adult.

[Anonymous]

I'm not that poster and I don't find the solution of doing camps all summer weird under your unique circumstance. My younger son is the same age and will do a few camps this summer, although not all summer. However, I do find it a bit strange that you don't mention trying to coordinate with his friends on this. I would be fine having one of my son's friends at our place during the day for a week over the summer (I work, but they are old enough to mostly amuse themselves). I also find it a bit odd that you don't mention coordinating with his friends on camps. Most kids don't do camp all summer at that age, but do one or two camps over the course of a summer.


I don’t know why that would be odd. If I didn’t ask it might be odd but I don’t know why I would include that info in a thread asking for recommendations.

The whole way your post was worded seems weird to me. No need for the initial mysterious reference to reasons, then additional information about the nursing company. All you need to do is say you are looking for recommendations on camps that are not overnight that accept kids up to age 13.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids After Hours Adventure camp or traveling teens

+1. These camps are great. They go to a different place every day and they offer it through rising 9th graders.

[Anonymous]

Stone ridge also has an adventure camp that is a lot of fun. They go to high ropes, rafting, etc. different thing each day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't really think nursing companies can exert so much control in what goes in someone's home. That doesn't seem right to me.

Of course they can. No one is forcing anyone to engage that particular company’s services if they don’t agree with the policy.

I haven’t heard of this before, but I don’t really blame them. The nurse being the only responsible adult in the home (presuming the person who needs home nursing care may not be the spryest or in best of health) with someone else’s minor child who isn’t their patient is opening the company up to a world of liability.

+ accusations of molestation/inappropriate behavior.

I don't find this rule surprising at all.

I don't find it surprising either but its still wrong regardless of the reason, he has every right to be in his own home.

It’s not “wrong.” He can be in his own home — just not when the contracted caregiver is there and no other adult.

It is wrong and if i was put in his position i would absolutely refuse to leave.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't really think nursing companies can exert so much control in what goes in someone's home. That doesn't seem right to me.

Of course they can. No one is forcing anyone to engage that particular company’s services if they don’t agree with the policy.

I haven’t heard of this before, but I don’t really blame them. The nurse being the only responsible adult in the home (presuming the person who needs home nursing care may not be the spryest or in best of health) with someone else’s minor child who isn’t their patient is opening the company up to a world of liability.

+ accusations of molestation/inappropriate behavior.

I don't find this rule surprising at all.

I don't find it surprising either but its still wrong regardless of the reason, he has every right to be in his own home.

It’s not “wrong.” He can be in his own home — just not when the contracted caregiver is there and no other adult.

It is wrong and if i was put in his position i would absolutely refuse to leave.

And when the company cancels the contract and his family falls apart? Luckily my kid is either smarter or more empathetic than you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't really think nursing companies can exert so much control in what goes in someone's home. That doesn't seem right to me.

Of course they can. No one is forcing anyone to engage that particular company’s services if they don’t agree with the policy.

I haven’t heard of this before, but I don’t really blame them. The nurse being the only responsible adult in the home (presuming the person who needs home nursing care may not be the spryest or in best of health) with someone else’s minor child who isn’t their patient is opening the company up to a world of liability.

+ accusations of molestation/inappropriate behavior.

I don't find this rule surprising at all.

I don't find it surprising either but its still wrong regardless of the reason, he has every right to be in his own home.

It’s not “wrong.” He can be in his own home — just not when the contracted caregiver is there and no other adult.

It is wrong and if i was put in his position i would absolutely refuse to leave.

And when the company cancels the contract and his family falls apart? Luckily my kid is either smarter or more empathetic than you.

There has to be a better option, they both deserve to remain in their own home, plus you are likely not the only one dealing with this problem and the company needs to be called out for causing it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't really think nursing companies can exert so much control in what goes in someone's home. That doesn't seem right to me.

Of course they can. No one is forcing anyone to engage that particular company’s services if they don’t agree with the policy.

I haven’t heard of this before, but I don’t really blame them. The nurse being the only responsible adult in the home (presuming the person who needs home nursing care may not be the spryest or in best of health) with someone else’s minor child who isn’t their patient is opening the company up to a world of liability.

+ accusations of molestation/inappropriate behavior.

I don't find this rule surprising at all.

I don't find it surprising either but its still wrong regardless of the reason, he has every right to be in his own home.

It’s not “wrong.” He can be in his own home — just not when the contracted caregiver is there and no other adult.

It is wrong and if i was put in his position i would absolutely refuse to leave.

And when the company cancels the contract and his family falls apart? Luckily my kid is either smarter or more empathetic than you.

There has to be a better option, they both deserve to remain in their own home, plus you are likely not the only one dealing with this problem and the company needs to be called out for causing it.

No it's not just me. Lack of home nursing for medically fragile children and adults is an enormous problem in this country. Children are forced to live in hospitals because of it in many states, with huge numbers in places like Florida with the lowest rates. During the pandemic, kids went many months without being able to see their parents at all, because of policies that kept parents out of long term care facilities. My child, and others got a hospital acquired drug resistant infection during one such hospital stay that almost killed him.

So, yes, something needs to change. But in the meantime, the people who advocate for that change also need to work within the policies of companies that keep our children alive. There is no way that I am going to engage in some kind of civil disobedience that risks my child's life to avoid his brother having to attend soccer camp. Because that's what you're asking me to do.