Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The US Government very specifically stated they had no jurisdiction over the child of and in a foreign country. So how in the hell does a judge in nowheresville VA have jurisdiction. A federal judge already ruled as well, after which time a VA judge granted an adoption. This is beyond bizarre and every American needs to be afraid of these zealots and what will happen if they take over more political, judicial centers of power. I say this as a Christian, these people are diabolical and somehow the judge in VA has more authority than the US federal government in matters of international affairs…and no judge has issued an order to place the child back with the Afghan family, even temporarily while the lies are being revealed? And this man was promoted and not arrest by the Marines?

My heart hurts for the family and the baby. This needs a media blitz, cnn, abc, nbc, everywhere.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe the military allowed this. He should be dishonorably discharged for stealing this baby.

This has nothing to do with the military but they should have discharged him. This happens more often than people realize. I know someone it happened to. Mom died, left the child to someone and someone from the hospital made a back door deal with someone and took the kid, and filed in court claiming no relatives. They got to keep the child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Afghan law requires the baby to remain in Afghanistan or only be placed with a Muslim Afghan relative or another family abroad?

Are we talking current Afghan (read: taliban) law?

Any reason why any country should abide by Taliban law?

This is tricky, right?

It’s not exactly the traditional islamaphobia, white savior privilege, right?

I’m all for orphans being raised by loving family members. I think ethnicity, culture and religion matter. But see the slippery slope? Should orphans only be placed with people who look like them?

Personally, I don’t think any civilized country should abide by the laws of the Taliban. YMMV.

So you think we can just go steal all the babies from Afghanistan and bring them to the US?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Afghan law requires the baby to remain in Afghanistan or only be placed with a Muslim Afghan relative or another family abroad?

Are we talking current Afghan (read: taliban) law?

Any reason why any country should abide by Taliban law?

This is tricky, right?

It’s not exactly the traditional islamaphobia, white savior privilege, right?

I’m all for orphans being raised by loving family members. I think ethnicity, culture and religion matter. But see the slippery slope? Should orphans only be placed with people who look like them?

Personally, I don’t think any civilized country should abide by the laws of the Taliban. YMMV.

Did you even read the article? Geneva convention, Pre-Taliban 2021 law, DoD and DoS policies, to name a few. Please read before you post.

Even if it was the Taliban, it would be a war crime to take babies away that had locals raising them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Afghan law requires the baby to remain in Afghanistan or only be placed with a Muslim Afghan relative or another family abroad?

Are we talking current Afghan (read: taliban) law?

Any reason why any country should abide by Taliban law?

This is tricky, right?

It’s not exactly the traditional islamaphobia, white savior privilege, right?

I’m all for orphans being raised by loving family members. I think ethnicity, culture and religion matter. But see the slippery slope? Should orphans only be placed with people who look like them?

Personally, I don’t think any civilized country should abide by the laws of the Taliban. YMMV.

I see where you are coming from, and that’s one of the arguments the lawyer for the Masts (his brother, in fact) was making (referring to young boys being assaulted by men over there), but the slippery slope also goes the other way: can we just take the babies of countries very different from ours, just because we perceive their laws and procedures to be inferior?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Afghan law requires the baby to remain in Afghanistan or only be placed with a Muslim Afghan relative or another family abroad?

Are we talking current Afghan (read: taliban) law?

Any reason why any country should abide by Taliban law?

This is tricky, right?

It’s not exactly the traditional islamaphobia, white savior privilege, right?

I’m all for orphans being raised by loving family members. I think ethnicity, culture and religion matter. But see the slippery slope? Should orphans only be placed with people who look like them?

Personally, I don’t think any civilized country should abide by the laws of the Taliban. YMMV.

I see where you are coming from, and that’s one of the arguments the lawyer for the Masts (his brother, in fact) was making (referring to young boys being assaulted by men over there), but the slippery slope also goes the other way: can we just take the babies of countries very different from ours, just because we perceive their laws and procedures to be inferior?

+1 Could some couple from Japan come and take your kids because they’ll be safer there since there are no school shootings?

[Anonymous]

You can't go around stealing babies from other countries because you don't like their culture or laws and because you have 4 boys and want to add a girl to the mix.

[Anonymous]

Who has their social media accounts?

10 bucks says she calls herself “Mama Bear”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Afghan law requires the baby to remain in Afghanistan or only be placed with a Muslim Afghan relative or another family abroad?

Are we talking current Afghan (read: taliban) law?

Any reason why any country should abide by Taliban law?

This is tricky, right?

It’s not exactly the traditional islamaphobia, white savior privilege, right?

I’m all for orphans being raised by loving family members. I think ethnicity, culture and religion matter. But see the slippery slope? Should orphans only be placed with people who look like them?

Personally, I don’t think any civilized country should abide by the laws of the Taliban. YMMV.

I see where you are coming from, and that’s one of the arguments the lawyer for the Masts (his brother, in fact) was making (referring to young boys being assaulted by men over there), but the slippery slope also goes the other way: can we just take the babies of countries very different from ours, just because we perceive their laws and procedures to be inferior?

+1 Could some couple from Japan come and take your kids because they’ll be safer there since there are no school shootings?

Russia has suspended international adoptions by US parents because too many Russian orphans have died living with American adoptive parents (!). Maybe Russia should just start taking American babies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Afghan law requires the baby to remain in Afghanistan or only be placed with a Muslim Afghan relative or another family abroad?

Are we talking current Afghan (read: taliban) law?

Any reason why any country should abide by Taliban law?

This is tricky, right?

It’s not exactly the traditional islamaphobia, white savior privilege, right?

I’m all for orphans being raised by loving family members. I think ethnicity, culture and religion matter. But see the slippery slope? Should orphans only be placed with people who look like them?

Personally, I don’t think any civilized country should abide by the laws of the Taliban. YMMV.

I see where you are coming from, and that’s one of the arguments the lawyer for the Masts (his brother, in fact) was making (referring to young boys being assaulted by men over there), but the slippery slope also goes the other way: can we just take the babies of countries very different from ours, just because we perceive their laws and procedures to be inferior?

+1 Could some couple from Japan come and take your kids because they’ll be safer there since there are no school shootings?

Russia has suspended international adoptions by US parents because too many Russian orphans have died living with American adoptive parents (!). Maybe Russia should just start taking American babies?

Russia only sends its very sickest children to the US. I was offered one for adoption. Very very ill child that did not have a good prognosis. You are believing what Putin says? Seriously?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Afghan law requires the baby to remain in Afghanistan or only be placed with a Muslim Afghan relative or another family abroad?

Are we talking current Afghan (read: taliban) law?

Any reason why any country should abide by Taliban law?

This is tricky, right?

It’s not exactly the traditional islamaphobia, white savior privilege, right?

I’m all for orphans being raised by loving family members. I think ethnicity, culture and religion matter. But see the slippery slope? Should orphans only be placed with people who look like them?

Personally, I don’t think any civilized country should abide by the laws of the Taliban. YMMV.

I see where you are coming from, and that’s one of the arguments the lawyer for the Masts (his brother, in fact) was making (referring to young boys being assaulted by men over there), but the slippery slope also goes the other way: can we just take the babies of countries very different from ours, just because we perceive their laws and procedures to be inferior?

+1 Could some couple from Japan come and take your kids because they’ll be safer there since there are no school shootings?

Russia has suspended international adoptions by US parents because too many Russian orphans have died living with American adoptive parents (!). Maybe Russia should just start taking American babies?

That was Putin’s response to the US passing the Magnitsky Act and didn’t really have anything to do with how kids adopted in Russia were faring in the US. Although IIRC one of the very few hot car deaths that was determined to be a murder was a Russian adoptee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Afghan law requires the baby to remain in Afghanistan or only be placed with a Muslim Afghan relative or another family abroad?

Are we talking current Afghan (read: taliban) law?

Any reason why any country should abide by Taliban law?

This is tricky, right?

It’s not exactly the traditional islamaphobia, white savior privilege, right?

I’m all for orphans being raised by loving family members. I think ethnicity, culture and religion matter. But see the slippery slope? Should orphans only be placed with people who look like them?

Personally, I don’t think any civilized country should abide by the laws of the Taliban. YMMV.

I see where you are coming from, and that’s one of the arguments the lawyer for the Masts (his brother, in fact) was making (referring to young boys being assaulted by men over there), but the slippery slope also goes the other way: can we just take the babies of countries very different from ours, just because we perceive their laws and procedures to be inferior?

You guys didn't read the article. This happened before the Taliban took over. When the U.S. was still in Afghanistan. READ READ READ.

[Anonymous]

I wonder what will happen if the Masts win the lawsuit and the girl becomes a teenager and googles them. Hey mom and dad, you STOLE ME FROM PEOPLE WHO LOVED ME????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe Russia should just start taking American babies?

Russia has forcibly "adopted" thousands of Ukrainian babies. This is a war crime, genocide. I don't know why it isn't a crime when evangelical Americans do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Afghan law requires the baby to remain in Afghanistan or only be placed with a Muslim Afghan relative or another family abroad?

Are we talking current Afghan (read: taliban) law?

Any reason why any country should abide by Taliban law?

This is tricky, right?

It’s not exactly the traditional islamaphobia, white savior privilege, right?

I’m all for orphans being raised by loving family members. I think ethnicity, culture and religion matter. But see the slippery slope? Should orphans only be placed with people who look like them?

Personally, I don’t think any civilized country should abide by the laws of the Taliban. YMMV.

I see where you are coming from, and that’s one of the arguments the lawyer for the Masts (his brother, in fact) was making (referring to young boys being assaulted by men over there), but the slippery slope also goes the other way: can we just take the babies of countries very different from ours, just because we perceive their laws and procedures to be inferior?

+1 Could some couple from Japan come and take your kids because they’ll be safer there since there are no school shootings?

Russia has suspended international adoptions by US parents because too many Russian orphans have died living with American adoptive parents (!). Maybe Russia should just start taking American babies?

Russia only sends its very sickest children to the US. I was offered one for adoption. Very very ill child that did not have a good prognosis. You are believing what Putin says? Seriously?

No, the children were murdered. There were several over the course of years.

This is a tangent, in response to PP's statement about how Afghan culture is bad so it's fine for Americans to steal babies.