controversial opinions about college

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges admission pay attention to gpa, scores, and maybe a little to essays. Everyone is acting like they dissect the application. This is 100% not true.

This is 100% NOT TRUE! If it is true how can you reason the admissions that happen so subjectively? i.e. a kid with higher gpa and test scores is denied admission but a kid with lesser stats is admitted?

Only Asian-American kids are discriminated against. URMs are given admission with average scores, gpa and essays. Whites are given because of legacy. And foreign born Asians are welcome with open arms with scholarships. I don't understand that one.

Wrong.

Most foreign born Asians are full pay at U S. Universities.

[Anonymous]

You are not a bad parent for making your child take out loans to pay for their college even if you could afford to finance it yourself.

It’s also okay you paid off your own debt instead of financing a 529.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should have no involvement in college application process.

x1000

Yeah, that’s real smart, you tell them what time to be home and what to wear, but don’t have any involvement in the first big consequential, expensive decision they will ever make. That makes a lot of sense.

That’s sarcasm, of course. It’s incredibly stupid. It’s a family expense and a family decision, and good family work together to make good choices and help out.

My kids have three siblings--which are of course, part of "the family." I can't imagine any of my kids being part of a "family decision" on where their sibling goes to college.

Great!

But the thread you were replying to specifically spoke of parent involvement.

So what is your point?

That the pp (you?) said it was a "family" decision. That is definitely not true in my family--nor any family I've ever known--and I have 3 kids that have gone to college so I've known many kids that have gone to college.

I've never once been told "Well, Larla really wanted to go to Boston University, but we discussed it as a family and her brother Thomas said no--he didn't agree with that. So we discussed it more and decided we would all be happy with Larla going to Colgate."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Despite all the people who love to virtue signal and preach to the contrary, prestige matters. Attending an elite school can change the trajectory of one's life in huge and little ways.

I respectfully disagree. It’s a very myopic viewpoint.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should have no involvement in college application process.

x1000

Yeah, that’s real smart, you tell them what time to be home and what to wear, but don’t have any involvement in the first big consequential, expensive decision they will ever make. That makes a lot of sense.

That’s sarcasm, of course. It’s incredibly stupid. It’s a family expense and a family decision, and good family work together to make good choices and help out.

My kids have three siblings--which are of course, part of "the family." I can't imagine any of my kids being part of a "family decision" on where their sibling goes to college.

Great!

But the thread you were replying to specifically spoke of parent involvement.

So what is your point?

That the pp (you?) said it was a "family" decision. That is definitely not true in my family--nor any family I've ever known--and I have 3 kids that have gone to college so I've known many kids that have gone to college.

I've never once been told "Well, Larla really wanted to go to Boston University, but we discussed it as a family and her brother Thomas said no--he didn't agree with that. So we discussed it more and decided we would all be happy with Larla going to Colgate."

News flash: parents are family.

Another news flash: parents usually pay part or all of college, and only the parents know what is affordable. Their involvement is essential.

A third news flash: Unless you are trolling, your point is absolute nonsense. Saying it is a family decision doesn't mean everyone gets a vote. Are you serious? Or drunk? Did you think I meant call up Uncle Earl and canvass? I mean seriously, man. What do you call a child and his parents? That isn't a family? jumpin jeebus on a pogostick... just when I thought I had seen everything here...

Last news flash: Part of parenting is guiding your children. An important part. Of an important and insanely expensive decision. Do it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently I'm a jerk for not being on my kids' schools' Facebook pages for parents, and thinking that if my kids are old enough to go away for college, they're old/mature enough to figure it out on their own.

No you’re a jerk because rather than just pass the post by you need to exert your superiority and say that you are too good a mom to join those pages.

Exactly. How incredibly tone deaf. To the PPP: no one cares whether you join those FB parents' pages or not. But we're not interested in you trashing those of us who do. Run along now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That acceptance rate and yield rate have zero bearing on the caliber of the education and student body at a given college beyond what's already reflected in the GPA, class rank and test score data for entering freshmen.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should have no involvement in college application process.

x1000

Yeah, that’s real smart, you tell them what time to be home and what to wear, but don’t have any involvement in the first big consequential, expensive decision they will ever make. That makes a lot of sense.

That’s sarcasm, of course. It’s incredibly stupid. It’s a family expense and a family decision, and good family work together to make good choices and help out.

My kids have three siblings--which are of course, part of "the family." I can't imagine any of my kids being part of a "family decision" on where their sibling goes to college.

Great!

But the thread you were replying to specifically spoke of parent involvement.

So what is your point?

That the pp (you?) said it was a "family" decision. That is definitely not true in my family--nor any family I've ever known--and I have 3 kids that have gone to college so I've known many kids that have gone to college.

I've never once been told "Well, Larla really wanted to go to Boston University, but we discussed it as a family and her brother Thomas said no--he didn't agree with that. So we discussed it more and decided we would all be happy with Larla going to Colgate."

DP. OMG. I've been reading your ridiculous, literal responses and rolling my eyes. Get a grip and stop splitting hairs. We ALL know that when the PP said a "family decision," she meant parents + college applicant. Are you this argumentative about everything? Go away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should have no involvement in college application process.

x1000

Yeah, that’s real smart, you tell them what time to be home and what to wear, but don’t have any involvement in the first big consequential, expensive decision they will ever make. That makes a lot of sense.

That’s sarcasm, of course. It’s incredibly stupid. It’s a family expense and a family decision, and good family work together to make good choices and help out.

My kids have three siblings--which are of course, part of "the family." I can't imagine any of my kids being part of a "family decision" on where their sibling goes to college.

Great!

But the thread you were replying to specifically spoke of parent involvement.

So what is your point?

That the pp (you?) said it was a "family" decision. That is definitely not true in my family--nor any family I've ever known--and I have 3 kids that have gone to college so I've known many kids that have gone to college.

I've never once been told "Well, Larla really wanted to go to Boston University, but we discussed it as a family and her brother Thomas said no--he didn't agree with that. So we discussed it more and decided we would all be happy with Larla going to Colgate."

News flash: parents are family.

Another news flash: parents usually pay part or all of college, and only the parents know what is affordable. Their involvement is essential.

A third news flash: Unless you are trolling, your point is absolute nonsense. Saying it is a family decision doesn't mean everyone gets a vote. Are you serious? Or drunk? Did you think I meant call up Uncle Earl and canvass? I mean seriously, man. What do you call a child and his parents? That isn't a family? jumpin jeebus on a pogostick... just when I thought I had seen everything here...

Last news flash: Part of parenting is guiding your children. An important part. Of an important and insanely expensive decision. Do it.

THIS! The PPP has got to be a troll. No one could be that dense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That acceptance rate and yield rate have zero bearing on the caliber of the education and student body at a given college beyond what's already reflected in the GPA, class rank and test score data for entering freshmen.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Standardized test scores matter more than grades.

It’s a controversial opinion alright. One that is consistently contradicted by the vast majority of studies not sponsored by College Board. I was phi beta kappa and came in with a standardized test score of bottom 20%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Standardized test scores matter more than grades.

It’s a controversial opinion alright. One that is consistently contradicted by the vast majority of studies not sponsored by College Board. I was phi beta kappa and came in with a standardized test score of bottom 20%.

Depends on what you think matters more in life. Grades= how hard you work. Standardized tests= innate intelligence. I think both are very important, but hard work is very important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People with sub 1000 SAT scores don’t belong in college

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish we could subsidize a college experiment where the goal wasn’t academic excellence but instead focused on curiosity, life skills, soft skills, basic work skills, interesting classes, social/emotional well-being, and a substantive focus area—and fun! I bet we might produce a better generation of adults.

We already have that. It’s called kindergarten.

[Anonymous]

The only things colleges should look at are grades, test scores, And maybe an open ended question exam of some sorts. The brightest should get into the best colleges, and that’s it.
The rest can go to less rigorous ones.