controversial opinions about college

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Anonymous wrote:CTCL are mediocre and overhyped.

+100 it's a marketing ploy for schools who were on the verge of bankruptcy, probably, and needed money to come in stat. In comes CTCL.

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If you make too much for financial aid you are a bad parent for not finding a way to pay for the school best for your child

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I don't get why people hate on Greek life as "paying for friends" when colleges and private schools are, by definition, paying for friends (excuse me, "connections").

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Anonymous wrote:Despite all the people who love to virtue signal and preach to the contrary, prestige matters. Attending an elite school can change the trajectory of one's life in huge and little ways.

For graduate school. Undergrad is completely irrelevant.

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I wish we could subsidize a college experiment where the goal wasn’t academic excellence but instead focused on curiosity, life skills, soft skills, basic work skills, interesting classes, social/emotional well-being, and a substantive focus area—and fun! I bet we might produce a better generation of adults.

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Anonymous wrote:If you make too much for financial aid you are a bad parent for not finding a way to pay for the school best for your child

+1 priorities.

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Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action in admissions stokes animosity on campuses. The affirmative action admits feel stupid and isolated and then they get angry. It’s cruel to admit below bar kids in the first place — they would be far happier at a college with similar acuity peers.

It’s even worse for the minority kids who would have gotten in regardless of affirmative action and yet are still stigmatized by people assuming they are less qualified.

The URMs on campus really don't care what other people think. They'll get the same degree upon graduation.

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Anonymous wrote:CTCL are mediocre and overhyped.

+100 it's a marketing ploy for schools who were on the verge of bankruptcy, probably, and needed money to come in stat. In comes CTCL.

Right, with an endowment of over $1 billion Denison is on the verge of bankruptcy.

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Anonymous wrote:College might be your only chance to study Gregorian chant or read Tolstoy or ask yourself whether you believe in utilitarianism. Go for it. Smart, realistic, self-aware people with a good work ethic and strong critical thinking, research, and writing skills will figure out a way to make enough money -- and maybe even have some fun doing it.

You’ve got this backward. Smart people will figure out a way to “study Gregorian chant or read Tolstoy or ask yourself whether you believe in utilitarianism” without paying $300,000 for it. They will go to college to make enough money to make that $300,000 education pay off.

The days of “go to college to acquire knowledge for its own sake to make you a better person” are long gone. The humanities and liberal arts departments that sell that line of propaganda have priced themselves out of the market.

+1

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College completely fails to formally teach the teamwork/social necessary for success in many corporate/white collar jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action in admissions stokes animosity on campuses. The affirmative action admits feel stupid and isolated and then they get angry. It’s cruel to admit below bar kids in the first place — they would be far happier at a college with similar acuity peers.

It’s even worse for the minority kids who would have gotten in regardless of affirmative action and yet are still stigmatized by people assuming they are less qualified.

The URMs on campus really don't care what other people think. They'll get the same degree upon graduation.

And people will continue to question whether they merited it for the rest of their professional lives- signed a URM who attended an Ivy

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges admission pay attention to gpa, scores, and maybe a little to essays. Everyone is acting like they dissect the application. This is 100% not true.

This is 100% NOT TRUE! If it is true how can you reason the admissions that happen so subjectively? i.e. a kid with higher gpa and test scores is denied admission but a kid with lesser stats is admitted?

Only Asian-American kids are discriminated against. URMs are given admission with average scores, gpa and essays. Whites are given because of legacy. And foreign born Asians are welcome with open arms with scholarships. I don't understand that one.

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges admission pay attention to gpa, scores, and maybe a little to essays. Everyone is acting like they dissect the application. This is 100% not true.

This is 100% NOT TRUE! If it is true how can you reason the admissions that happen so subjectively? i.e. a kid with higher gpa and test scores is denied admission but a kid with lesser stats is admitted?

Only Asian-American kids are discriminated against. URMs are given admission with average scores, gpa and essays. Whites are given because of legacy. And foreign born Asians are welcome with open arms with scholarships. I don't understand that one.

You think every white person has legacy status at a college? Many whites do not have parents who went to college. Even among those that do, many colleges don't consider legacy at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action in admissions stokes animosity on campuses. The affirmative action admits feel stupid and isolated and then they get angry. It’s cruel to admit below bar kids in the first place — they would be far happier at a college with similar acuity peers.

It’s even worse for the minority kids who would have gotten in regardless of affirmative action and yet are still stigmatized by people assuming they are less qualified.

The URMs on campus really don't care what other people think. They'll get the same degree upon graduation.

And people will continue to question whether they merited it for the rest of their professional lives- signed a URM who attended an Ivy

Get thicker skin. And cash those checks.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should have no involvement in college application process.

x1000

Yeah, that’s real smart, you tell them what time to be home and what to wear, but don’t have any involvement in the first big consequential, expensive decision they will ever make. That makes a lot of sense.

That’s sarcasm, of course. It’s incredibly stupid. It’s a family expense and a family decision, and good family work together to make good choices and help out.

My kids have three siblings--which are of course, part of "the family." I can't imagine any of my kids being part of a "family decision" on where their sibling goes to college.

Great!

But the thread you were replying to specifically spoke of parent involvement.

So what is your point?