Test To Return for DCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids have a constitutional right to attend public school. You can't just make up random rules and then exclude kids from school on the basis of non-compliance. There needs to be some legal basis and, in addition to that, some rational basis underlying the law.

But what's 'random'? One would think a dress code (that includes a mask) might be random, but those aren't questioned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you don't test your kid before school, then on the first day, they will show up and be sent to a special room where a school nurse will test them. So either way they will get tested. I agree it is stupid and pointless.

I don’t really care about TTR and will comply. But I do care about medical procedures without my permission. What’s your source for this info?

It does seem odd that you can opt out of testing, but you can't opt out of TTR.

[Anonymous]

"Random" meaning a rule not supported by legal process. In the case of a dress code, OSSE/DCPS have a policy-making process and the policies are posted on the OSSE website. A dress code policy is also rationally related to the objective of maintaining order within schools.

Test to return did not come from a similar process. There is no policy, no regulation, no law. It's also absurd. If DCPS attempts to exclude kids for non-compliance, there will be a lawsuit. But the powers that be likely realize this, and I suspect this "requirement" will not be enforced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you don't test your kid before school, then on the first day, they will show up and be sent to a special room where a school nurse will test them. So either way they will get tested. I agree it is stupid and pointless.

I don’t really care about TTR and will comply. But I do care about medical procedures without my permission. What’s your source for this info?

It does seem odd that you can opt out of testing, but you can't opt out of TTR.

This is how it was done last year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you don't test your kid before school, then on the first day, they will show up and be sent to a special room where a school nurse will test them. So either way they will get tested. I agree it is stupid and pointless.

I don’t really care about TTR and will comply. But I do care about medical procedures without my permission. What’s your source for this info?

It does seem odd that you can opt out of testing, but you can't opt out of TTR.

This is how it was done last year

Meaning if you opted out of asymptomatic testing, you could also opt out of TTR? I'm trying to understand what you mean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids have a constitutional right to attend public school. You can't just make up random rules and then exclude kids from school on the basis of non-compliance. There needs to be some legal basis and, in addition to that, some rational basis underlying the law.

But what's 'random'? One would think a dress code (that includes a mask) might be random, but those aren't questioned.

Depends which rule you are talking about. Required vaccination? Yes, you can exclude kids. TTR? Less clear.

[Anonymous]

My understanding from TTR after winter break and spring break: if a kids showed up without proof of a negative test, either (1) if parents were present, the parent would be given a rapid test to administer, or (2) the kid would be tested by medical staff onsite.

If either (1) the parent declined to administer the test, or (2) the kid's family had opted out of in-school testing, the kid would be sent home.

One additional problem with testing for first day of school is there hasn't been an opportunity to opt-out. Previous opt outs were good for SY 21-22. So if kid shows up without parent and no negative test, does the school test them given potential for parental objection? Unclear.

[Anonymous]

I like how DCPS parents are arguing over one time test to return, while charter parents are still facing masking, maybe even outdoors, and socially distanced pods inside schools.

[Anonymous]

Don't people on here post all the time about how covid restrictions weren't enforced at all in some schools? Like some schools went on the honor system about vaccination, so didn't quarantine unvaccinated kids last year? (Sidenote: It was apparently dumb to distinguish kids wrt vaccination status, but I guess we didn't know it was dumb originally.)

The point being: Those people apparently avoided covid restrictions last year. If that can happen, then why would rules be differentially enforced at other schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't people on here post all the time about how covid restrictions weren't enforced at all in some schools? Like some schools went on the honor system about vaccination, so didn't quarantine unvaccinated kids last year? (Sidenote: It was apparently dumb to distinguish kids wrt vaccination status, but I guess we didn't know it was dumb originally.)

The point being: Those people apparently avoided covid restrictions last year. If that can happen, then why would rules be differentially enforced at other schools?

Yes DCPS can make policies. They are followed to different degrees at different schools. For instance Walls did not participate in random testing, even if kids didn’t opt out officially. The school was not allowed to test a kid who didn’t volunteer. They also were not allowed to ask vaccination status so when there were exposures in the fall no one quarantined. This is because parents, with social capital because they are UMC, complained. The applications of policies are not equitable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't people on here post all the time about how covid restrictions weren't enforced at all in some schools? Like some schools went on the honor system about vaccination, so didn't quarantine unvaccinated kids last year? (Sidenote: It was apparently dumb to distinguish kids wrt vaccination status, but I guess we didn't know it was dumb originally.)

The point being: Those people apparently avoided covid restrictions last year. If that can happen, then why would rules be differentially enforced at other schools?

Yes DCPS can make policies. They are followed to different degrees at different schools. For instance Walls did not participate in random testing, even if kids didn’t opt out officially. The school was not allowed to test a kid who didn’t volunteer. They also were not allowed to ask vaccination status so when there were exposures in the fall no one quarantined. This is because parents, with social capital because they are UMC, complained. The applications of policies are not equitable.

This has always been true in DCPS. Covid policies are just another example of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't people on here post all the time about how covid restrictions weren't enforced at all in some schools? Like some schools went on the honor system about vaccination, so didn't quarantine unvaccinated kids last year? (Sidenote: It was apparently dumb to distinguish kids wrt vaccination status, but I guess we didn't know it was dumb originally.)

The point being: Those people apparently avoided covid restrictions last year. If that can happen, then why would rules be differentially enforced at other schools?

Yes DCPS can make policies. They are followed to different degrees at different schools. For instance Walls did not participate in random testing, even if kids didn’t opt out officially. The school was not allowed to test a kid who didn’t volunteer. They also were not allowed to ask vaccination status so when there were exposures in the fall no one quarantined. This is because parents, with social capital because they are UMC, complained. The applications of policies are not equitable.

My impression was that the policies were not followed where there were fewer resources to track kids and cases. So, not the UMC schools, but the schools with more low income kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't people on here post all the time about how covid restrictions weren't enforced at all in some schools? Like some schools went on the honor system about vaccination, so didn't quarantine unvaccinated kids last year? (Sidenote: It was apparently dumb to distinguish kids wrt vaccination status, but I guess we didn't know it was dumb originally.)

The point being: Those people apparently avoided covid restrictions last year. If that can happen, then why would rules be differentially enforced at other schools?

Yes DCPS can make policies. They are followed to different degrees at different schools. For instance Walls did not participate in random testing, even if kids didn’t opt out officially. The school was not allowed to test a kid who didn’t volunteer. They also were not allowed to ask vaccination status so when there were exposures in the fall no one quarantined. This is because parents, with social capital because they are UMC, complained. The applications of policies are not equitable.

So DCPS couldn't ask vaccination status of *anyone*? Huh. I mean, I can kind of understand why that would be true, given that DCPS wasn't allowed to ask teachers about vaccination status (private medical info that is not required for school).

Did people who vaccinated kids then just volunteer the info to get out of quarantine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't people on here post all the time about how covid restrictions weren't enforced at all in some schools? Like some schools went on the honor system about vaccination, so didn't quarantine unvaccinated kids last year? (Sidenote: It was apparently dumb to distinguish kids wrt vaccination status, but I guess we didn't know it was dumb originally.)

The point being: Those people apparently avoided covid restrictions last year. If that can happen, then why would rules be differentially enforced at other schools?

Yes DCPS can make policies. They are followed to different degrees at different schools. For instance Walls did not participate in random testing, even if kids didn’t opt out officially. The school was not allowed to test a kid who didn’t volunteer. They also were not allowed to ask vaccination status so when there were exposures in the fall no one quarantined. This is because parents, with social capital because they are UMC, complained. The applications of policies are not equitable.

So DCPS couldn't ask vaccination status of *anyone*? Huh. I mean, I can kind of understand why that would be true, given that DCPS wasn't allowed to ask teachers about vaccination status (private medical info that is not required for school).

Did people who vaccinated kids then just volunteer the info to get out of quarantine?

I think the front office called parents notifying of a close contact with a positive case. If they stated their child was vaccinated, then they got to stay. Unvaccinated needed to quarantine.

[Anonymous]

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