Are Mormons Christians?

[Anonymous]

good grief. It depends your definition of "christian," obviously.

I grew up Mormon. It was so much Jesus Jesus Jesus. I had to memorize passages from the New Testament, I had to speak about Christ and how his teachings applied in my every day life, I had to take a class on the New Testament at BYU. So yeah, I'd say that mormons are christian, and that a belief that god, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are distinct doesn't disqualify them.

Of course many people disagree. They have a definition of christian that excludes Mormon. This is so common in the history of religions, these situations were there are disagreements in doctrine so one body decides who is right and declares the other side dangerous heretics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you don't accept the Nicene Creed, you are not a Christian. That means mormons are not Christians.

You know, the reason the Nicene creed happened is because christians--people who followed Jesus around the time of Jesus--had a disagreement. Which means many, many very devout followers of christ came out on the other side. emperor Constantine wanted order and so he put it to a vote. Mormons believe that the vote was not the be all end all of christian doctrine, which personally I find reasonable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't accept the Nicene Creed, you are not a Christian. That means mormons are not Christians.

You know, the reason the Nicene creed happened is because christians--people who followed Jesus around the time of Jesus--had a disagreement. Which means many, many very devout followers of christ came out on the other side. emperor Constantine wanted order and so he put it to a vote. Mormons believe that the vote was not the be all end all of christian doctrine, which personally I find reasonable.

And what became the Christian Church was the group that accepted the doctrine. Those that didn't were no longer part of the church. The doctrine has remained through millennia of schism and is the bare minimum linking various denominations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't accept the Nicene Creed, you are not a Christian. That means mormons are not Christians.

You know, the reason the Nicene creed happened is because christians--people who followed Jesus around the time of Jesus--had a disagreement. Which means many, many very devout followers of christ came out on the other side. emperor Constantine wanted order and so he put it to a vote. Mormons believe that the vote was not the be all end all of christian doctrine, which personally I find reasonable.

And what became the Christian Church was the group that accepted the doctrine. Those that didn't were no longer part of the church. The doctrine has remained through millennia of schism and is the bare minimum linking various denominations.

Well yes, that is what the christian church says, that they were right and the others were wrong and they are the true christian church and the others aren't. They came up with their own definitions and applied them. Others believe differently. Religions are belief systems, not fact systems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't accept the Nicene Creed, you are not a Christian. That means mormons are not Christians.

You know, the reason the Nicene creed happened is because christians--people who followed Jesus around the time of Jesus--had a disagreement. Which means many, many very devout followers of christ came out on the other side. emperor Constantine wanted order and so he put it to a vote. Mormons believe that the vote was not the be all end all of christian doctrine, which personally I find reasonable.

And what became the Christian Church was the group that accepted the doctrine. Those that didn't were no longer part of the church. The doctrine has remained through millennia of schism and is the bare minimum linking various denominations.

Well yes, that is what the christian church says, that they were right and the others were wrong and they are the true christian church and the others aren't. They came up with their own definitions and applied them. Others believe differently. Religions are belief systems, not fact systems.

Ascribing to certain belief systems is part of being a member of a religion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't accept the Nicene Creed, you are not a Christian. That means mormons are not Christians.

You know, the reason the Nicene creed happened is because christians--people who followed Jesus around the time of Jesus--had a disagreement. Which means many, many very devout followers of christ came out on the other side. emperor Constantine wanted order and so he put it to a vote. Mormons believe that the vote was not the be all end all of christian doctrine, which personally I find reasonable.

And what became the Christian Church was the group that accepted the doctrine. Those that didn't were no longer part of the church. The doctrine has remained through millennia of schism and is the bare minimum linking various denominations.

Well yes, that is what the christian church says, that they were right and the others were wrong and they are the true christian church and the others aren't. They came up with their own definitions and applied them. Others believe differently. Religions are belief systems, not fact systems.

Ascribing to certain belief systems is part of being a member of a religion.

Morons are a cult full stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mormon church is a business

Water is wet.

Of course it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:good grief. It depends your definition of "christian," obviously.

I grew up Mormon. It was so much Jesus Jesus Jesus. I had to memorize passages from the New Testament, I had to speak about Christ and how his teachings applied in my every day life, I had to take a class on the New Testament at BYU. So yeah, I'd say that mormons are christian, and that a belief that god, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are distinct doesn't disqualify them.

Of course many people disagree. They have a definition of christian that excludes Mormon. This is so common in the history of religions, these situations were there are disagreements in doctrine so one body decides who is right and declares the other side dangerous heretics.

I also grew up Mormon. It was maybe 25 % Jesus, 25% Jospeh’ Smirh and other prophets and 25% rules rules and more rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obviously Mormons have some interesting beliefs. They believe there are three gods instead of in the Trinity. Yet, they do believe Jesus is god and died on the cross for our sins and they follow him as their savior. I used to tell myself the bare minimum for someone to considered a Christian was that they don't deny Jesus' divinity, but now I am thinking there's probably more to it than that. Do the trinitarian beliefs they have prevent them from being christian, or maybe their reliance on modern day prophets? I'm curious as a Catholic, because I know some of the Vatican 2 documents (is it Lumen Gentium? Correct me if I'm wrong, Catholics) talk about protestants being brothers and sisters in Christ, imperfectly joined to the body of Christ. Where is the line and why might Mormons not fall into that category as well? I just recently started learning about Mormonism so my knowledge is limited, I'd love to hear from someone with more experience and understanding of that faith.

If you aren’t Mormon or converting, why do you care? Are you writing a research paper? Mormons are Christian. The various opinions about LDS posted by random, anonymous posters here do not constitute any fact or truth about the Mormon church. Why would you ask anonymous people here instead of researching from factual, knowledgeable sources? That doesn’t make a lick of sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously Mormons have some interesting beliefs. They believe there are three gods instead of in the Trinity. Yet, they do believe Jesus is god and died on the cross for our sins and they follow him as their savior. I used to tell myself the bare minimum for someone to considered a Christian was that they don't deny Jesus' divinity, but now I am thinking there's probably more to it than that. Do the trinitarian beliefs they have prevent them from being christian, or maybe their reliance on modern day prophets? I'm curious as a Catholic, because I know some of the Vatican 2 documents (is it Lumen Gentium? Correct me if I'm wrong, Catholics) talk about protestants being brothers and sisters in Christ, imperfectly joined to the body of Christ. Where is the line and why might Mormons not fall into that category as well? I just recently started learning about Mormonism so my knowledge is limited, I'd love to hear from someone with more experience and understanding of that faith.

If you aren’t Mormon or converting, why do you care? Are you writing a research paper? Mormons are Christian. The various opinions about LDS posted by random, anonymous posters here do not constitute any fact or truth about the Mormon church. Why would you ask anonymous people here instead of researching from factual, knowledgeable sources? That doesn’t make a lick of sense.

Mormons aren’t Christian. Here’s a factual, knowledgeable source: https://www.luthercollege.edu/university/academics/impetus/winter-2013-impetus/is-mormonism-christian/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously Mormons have some interesting beliefs. They believe there are three gods instead of in the Trinity. Yet, they do believe Jesus is god and died on the cross for our sins and they follow him as their savior. I used to tell myself the bare minimum for someone to considered a Christian was that they don't deny Jesus' divinity, but now I am thinking there's probably more to it than that. Do the trinitarian beliefs they have prevent them from being christian, or maybe their reliance on modern day prophets? I'm curious as a Catholic, because I know some of the Vatican 2 documents (is it Lumen Gentium? Correct me if I'm wrong, Catholics) talk about protestants being brothers and sisters in Christ, imperfectly joined to the body of Christ. Where is the line and why might Mormons not fall into that category as well? I just recently started learning about Mormonism so my knowledge is limited, I'd love to hear from someone with more experience and understanding of that faith.

If you aren’t Mormon or converting, why do you care? Are you writing a research paper? Mormons are Christian. The various opinions about LDS posted by random, anonymous posters here do not constitute any fact or truth about the Mormon church. Why would you ask anonymous people here instead of researching from factual, knowledgeable sources? That doesn’t make a lick of sense.

Mormons aren’t Christian. Here’s a factual, knowledgeable source: https://www.luthercollege.edu/university/academics/impetus/winter-2013-impetus/is-mormonism-christian/

Good lord, pp. Are you bumping this thread because the other atheist threads aren't working out for you?